Buster Sword wrote: This isn’t even a fight. Vincent or Cloud could solo Squall and co.

Buster Sword wrote: When Squall display superhuman feats, and his skill against Seifer wasn’t great.

Buster Sword wrote: I don’t think Squall has jumped several stories high, his fight with Seifer at the start is bettered by LotR characters, he’s more skilled than strong. He doesn’t display the strenght or speed Cloud does.

Buster Sword wrote: He didn’t jump stories high though, and I don’t think he could beat Cloud for skill, you forget Cloud fights Sephiroth, who is >>>>>> Squall for skill and power. Yeah and through the game he still a low end metahuman if that. VII Cloud drops from a sector onto a church and survives, Squall gets KO from a blizzard, Cloud get shot in the face, chest, flies though mega flare, and gets chest stabbed by Sephiroth.

Buster Sword wrote: Well, we do have cutscenes for VIII to compare to AC, and in any of them AC > VIII. How is Squall better skilled than Cloud? You remember Sephiroth fights Genesis AND Angeal, he pwns Zack, he even fights the whole VII crew, that’s enough skill for me. Squall would have to be dying to use Lionheart.

If we’re gonna use VII Cloud, just think CC Zack, but a bit more powerful

Buster Sword wrote: Squall has never been shot in the face, through the chest, go through mega flare, gets chested by Sephiroth, he’s never fought someone on Sephiroth’s level of sword fighting skill, the closest is Seifer. About Lionheart, Squall has to be dying to use that, Cloud doesn’t play with his dinner, AND Cloud can use limit breaks almost at will.

KH is irrelavent.

Actually, they aren’t weak, as we see kid Cloud lift the Buster Sword, which normal MPs can’t even pick up. This was before anything was done to Cloud. And lets not forget FFVIII characters HEAVILY depend upon GFs. In AC the characters don’t even need materia.

Squall: Slashed with GunBlade, Impailed with Blizaga, Electrocuted for hour’s and tortured by Seifer

Cloud: Impailed By Masumune, Shot across the face, Impailed in the shoulder by Masumune

Cloud beat Bahamut Sin this is true even surviveing Mega Flare witch is impresive, but Seifer sliced Odin in half when every other enemy fell to him in one move and Squall was far ubove him hell Squall beat every summon in FF8 just to obtain them so we are all well awear that both VII-VIII’s cast can beat summon’s.

Seifer and Squall were GunBlade spechalist’s the only two to master the weapon and ill bet that isn’t an easy feat to achive Cloud has the strenth but not the skill Squall was a master swordsman trained since he was 7 it was his spechialty.

Squall also dousent play around he is alway’s focused on his prime directive all throughout 8 were he become’s the leader of all SeeD’s in his garden he was number 1 the best their chosen leader, and he fought his fair shear of challenge’s in 8 Ultimacia who could wipe out time and space for one so you can’t really use Sephiroth for Cloud as Squall by far take’s the cake when dealing with epic threat’s (Omega Weapon).

Limit break’s are game mech’s really like turn based fighting Cloud had the same in VII so you can’t use AC as in logical battle Squall also is able to use his Limit Break’s (his very own move’s at will) in reality you wouldent need to be worn down to use your ability’s (if useing game logic Squall cast’s Aero and automaticly has his Limit Break lol).

Well like i said in VIII they don’t need argumenting to have Super Strenth speed and so forth Zell can punch a train of it’s track’s Irvine Fire’s his gun so fast it’s a blur and Squall make’s a blade beam so big it go’s through the atmosphere, and Squall is alot better than all his team mate’s so strenth isn’t a decideing factor.

And as for Materia and Magic there different in both world’s Cloud need’s materia to use the move Squall draw’s the tech and uses it when he see’s fit like Meltdown (basically FF vertion of Kamehameha) Squall dousent have to load up with orb’s he naturaly has the move once he attain’s it and is able to cast it said amount of time’s.

Finally GF’s and reliant is pretty useless here we all played the game differently know one know’s if Squall and Co had need for summon’s or when they needed them in reality but i sure as hell know everyone ive ever met who played FFVII used Knight’s of the round a shit load against Sephiroth Ruby Weapon and so forth so their is much Summon rape in almost every FF, so once again useing AC is useless as you can’t verify fact from Game Mechanic’s