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[Quote] #101
28 Feb 2008 12:10 am
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1. lounge.moviecodec. it could stay the same domain name. or be mvc.com or similar. that’s not too important. the thing is, moviecodec.com (original) would remain what it is and a link from there to here and our own vbulletin. and a link back from here to there. there-guest posting. here-none except lonely thread, maybe another popular one like the videogame thread or the longest thread.

2. design of the site...i would rather we make it a whole new spanking different design. something really modern and cool. also, with vbulletin, we can have different themes. default, black, white, blue, etc, or different things like animals, sports, video game, etc themes. so people can choose their theme too.

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28 Feb 2008 12:11 am
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Also, warning systems could be setup for the mods.

A mod sees someone break a rule. They can click on their name and see if they have been warned lately about the rule, or if they have been warned too much recently.

Along with many other things, it could make being a moderator far easier.

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Last edited 28 Feb 2008 12:14 am by NEREVAR117
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28 Feb 2008 12:11 am
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NEREVAR117 wrote: Also, warning systems could be setup for the mods.

A mod sees someone break a rule. they can click on their name and see if they have been lately about the rule, or if they have been warned too much recently.

Along with many other things, it could make being a moderator far easier.

that sounds great...

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[Quote] #104
28 Feb 2008 12:13 am
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and with different themes then we can get people here who are cluey in designing stuff like that to create themes. user-created themes that the mod/admin can upload and install.

it makes people feel proud of the site, and everyone gets friendly thank TR,say, for creating a kick-ass theme. people are contributing, feel PART of the site.

it also helps some of those people in refining their skills or learning new skills like how to design vbuletin themes.

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28 Feb 2008 12:16 am
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ya i think Bjarne needs to put some new themes in, he has it set up, just no different themes... sad

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28 Feb 2008 12:17 am
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I’m liking this idea more and more.

Anyone see any negatives here? I don’t.

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28 Feb 2008 12:18 am
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the reputation bored is more anoying then anything. it can stay but it’s just lame. the ubber poster restriction thing is just bs, and it turns away newer people. also guests should be able to post. it gives them a chance to get a feel for the site before they decide to stay. that’s how i got hooked.

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28 Feb 2008 12:20 am
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Stix86 wrote: the reputation bored is more anoying then anything. it can stay but it’s just lame. the ubber poster restriction thing is just bs, and it turns away newer people. also guests should be able to post. it gives them a chance to get a feel for the site before they decide to stay. that’s how i got hooked.


This was something I suggested, allow guests to post. If it ever gets bad, mods/Bjarne flick off the switch. Then they cannot post.

After the incident settles down, flick the switch back on.

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28 Feb 2008 12:21 am
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Stix86 wrote: the reputation bored is more anoying then anything. it can stay but it’s just lame. the ubber poster restriction thing is just bs, and it turns away newer people. also guests should be able to post. it gives them a chance to get a feel for the site before they decide to stay. that’s how i got hooked.

it gives people a reason to want to reach uber, just like the custom rank gives people something to work for... its just to make sure you wont gget in it and up and leave with you already in the rep...

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28 Feb 2008 12:32 am
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im ok with guest posting on a few threads, video game, longest thread, lonely thread.

but if you give them power to post around the site, to start threads, you’re inviting trouble imo. spam, flaming, disruspting a site for the hell of it, etc.

registering is free geez. it takes 5 mins big deal. imo i wouldnt let them have any, just view. but i can agree with video versus, longest, and lonely threads.

but let this be a consensus vote. i just advise against it. it works for hundreds of forums out there, no reason it wouldnt here.

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Last edited 28 Feb 2008 12:35 am by gg
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28 Feb 2008 12:39 am
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gg wrote: im ok with guest posting on a few threads, video game, longest thread, lonely thread.

but if you give them power to post around the site, to start threads, you’re inviting trouble imo. spam, flaming, disruspting a site for the hell of it, etc.

registering is free geez. it takes 5 mins big deal. imo i wouldnt let them have any, just view. but i can agree with video versus, longest, and lonely threads.

but let this be a consensus vote. i just advise against it. it works for hundreds of forums out there, no reason it wouldnt here.


At first we should allow guests to post. If it ever gets bad, mods/Bjarne simply flick off the switch. Then they cannot post.

After the incident settles down, flick the switch back on.

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28 Feb 2008 12:48 am
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IMO, 1 thing at teh time

u guys r giving him things like he’s a damn robot

just u know take it slowly...

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28 Feb 2008 12:56 am
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im sorry, im gonna copy paste from the other thread here, because it should be here too...

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28 Feb 2008 12:58 am
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zeta_evolved wrote: IMO, 1 thing at teh time

u guys r giving him things like he’s a damn robot

just u know take it slowly...

lol im just posting ideas as they come to mind smiley

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28 Feb 2008 12:58 am
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gg wrote: this is one of three forums i bother with.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/

at the bottom, 400,000 threads, 9 million posts, 50,000 members. no guest posting!

this is the other forum i go to.

http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/

at the bottom, 115,000 threads, 2.5 million posts, 20,000 members. most online 1,700. no guest posting. they even have a paid special premium section for special content which is doing big business.

compare to lounge.moviecodec which has a very promising video game and lifestyle potential to it.

i dunno the stats but it’s far less than either of those two, far more vandalized, flamed, spammed, hacked etc. it also allows guest posting!


gg wrote: should also add...those other two sites, due to vbulletin, have far more moderating controls, powers, social order, and never any trouble. once someone tried to vandalize bigfooty but they couldn’t breach it.

in both forums theres a strong sense of community, there’s smack talk etc, but most people really become friends, meet, marry, go to pubs for a drink etc.

in lounge.moviecodec...theres the potential for all that, but there’s always too many problems that prevent it. too much hate and vandalism etc. guest posting, mods feeling powerless, people allowed to run rampant etc.



gg wrote: it’s debatable...meaning we should discuss it. but imo i disagree that guest posting is a lifeblood for a forum.

in fact, it’s THE number one thing that hurts this site.

imo let guests view and read all they like, they WILL register, trust me!



gg wrote: look, anonymous can confirm this...

back in 2004/2005, when i first found this site, looking up info on the ps3, x360, revolution. i found this site, i found i was able to guest post, and there were hardly any rules, in fact none.

i went nuts, i immediately felt like moviecodec was somewhere i could prank. i’d post as thousands of guest names, just to disrupt people’s chats, pretend to be them, calling myself gay, etc etc. anonymous knows i used to be a bad troll here.

eventually i registered because i liked a few people like xtrm and zucas etc.

but before then, i was a terror. and EVERYONE who’s been a guest in the past or even recent has terrorized this site because you just go crazy in the head, whoa cool, you can get away with anything. call people bitch, whore, fag, cunt, etc. spam, post porn, create 100 threads just to irritate everyone.

trust me, ive been there and done that and i know everyone has done shit like this. because the lax rules here and guest posting MAKES YOU want to treat the site poorly.

you make it registered only, vbulletin, harder rules, work towards friendly community, involve people thru creating themes and contributing blogs and reviews, and trust me, people will look respectfully towards mvc.


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28 Feb 2008 01:06 am
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SA-X is online. Hopefully he will voice his opinion on the matter.

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28 Feb 2008 01:12 am
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ok sorry to go a little off topic... but how come when gg makes a topic like this it doesnt end in a ton of flaming and me getting banned, but when Cid and Ty make it it does??

(dont ban me sax...)


anyway, i think this got us further than the other topics like these did...

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28 Feb 2008 01:17 am
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Because this was made at night, America’s time at least. Most of the members are asleep.

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28 Feb 2008 01:18 am
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lol still... there were quite a few people here when it started... but im still not banned, so i still have hope for this topic wink

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28 Feb 2008 02:00 am
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So essentially you want to separate from the site. I understand your separatist attitude clearly. You don’t like guests so you want to move the entire social community off the site and fuck them with rules. If you want to leave, fine. Don’t try to bring my entire social community with you.

Everyone’s claiming guests are the source of all the spamming and flaming on this site. Blame the guests. Sure, why not, they don’t actually visit the site regularly. You’ll never see them again. Perfect targets.

The majority of this complaining is coming from the latest generation of noobs. An attitude comes to mind; Let’s just blame the people below me. Oh wait, wasn’t that generation the same that was complaining that the senior members looks down on the noobs?

No one’s ever considered the fact that it’s themselves to blame for guest immaturity. No one accepts a guest into the community as easily as before. Perhaps it’s those who make them feel unwelcome, and it makes guests feel that they have to fight to be accepted into the community.

You people should realize that the majority of hits coming to this site are actually guests. Removing them wouldn’t result in what you desire; more members. Be guest friendly.

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