| 01 Mar 2008 02:09 am |
SSJ-MASTER Guest | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
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yes, cell has those. but picolo was smarter than freeza, but, well, freeza pwned him.
and cell cant regenerate that fast from serious injuries. and a punch from ssj2 gohan made cell spat out 18. picolos regenerating powers didnt help him at the least
But Piccolo didn’t know everything about Frieza either. His weaknesses, attacks,etc.
and cell knows 17s weakness? 17 is open to attacks if his absorbing ki attacks. and attacks? the arm auto cannon, the super electric ball thing?
yeah, cell, KNOWS 17. NOT SUPER 17.
well, you are right saying that super 17 can absorb his attacks, but he can only absorb so much. he has his limits as cell does also
and super 17s limits exceeds gokus kamehameha x10. which by the way is a lot stronger than gohans so called father-son kamehameha. and cell cant generate that much energy for an attack
so,super 17, pwns cell.
He does, in a sense. Unless Cell decides to pull some sort of dirty trick like the absorption.
cell, cant absorbed any one but 17 and 18. and the absorbing stops when he became perfect. if he can absorb past his perfect form then, he should have absorbed vegeta or trunks to get stronger. he did that strategy while he was in his first form. remember, cell absorbed an entire city populace to get stronger.
But it could be possible for him to go past his perfect form. That is not impossible.
actually, it is impossible.
gero created cell to achieve his PERFECT FORM. which means after cell became perfect, that is his final form.
even the super perfect form is only a powered up form of the normal perfect form. so, perfect form is cells final form.
Yes, you are right. But who is to say that absorbing super 17 couldn’t give him a power boost? no transformation required.
yes, if he can absorb super 17. you see, super 17 isnt the type of person that will stand there and say, hey, absorb me. hes not vegeta. 17, goes for the kill. which is why, ssj4 goku had a hard time fighting him. not to mention, super 17 is absorbing every ki blast goku throws at him
yeah and about the absorbing thing, his greatest advantage can also become his greatest weakness as you remember from gt. 17 would put up a fight, but Cell would have some scheme planned to absorb him or to defeat him by getting him when he is off guard. He is Cell after all.
what plan? like his plan in getting gohan so pissed he transformed? goku took while to see super 17 weakness. and goku is smarter or just as smart as cell, so, before cell even sees super 17s weakness, he’ll be killed first.
Not exactly. He does have Goku’s DNA as well, so I think the he would have the same thing in mind as Goku would. Like when Trunks fought Cell, Cell knew that he had a power advantage, but what he earned in power he lacked in speed. He became slower. Power is nothing unless you can make a direct hit.
of course 17 is not only stronger, he is much faster than cell. so there they are, cell, while conjuring up on a plan, super 17 speed blitz him and punched through his chest. game set and match
One punch does not decide a battle. If it did, then Goku would be the winner generally every time because he usually gets the first punch. Any way. Cell also has a technique similar to Piccolo where he can split himself into four different copies of himself for example when he faced goku in the cell games.
first of all, thats tiens technique. 2nd, that technique, divides the users power depending on the number of copies. 3rd, its a filler.
and a punch could decide a battle. especially if that punch came from someone thats so powerful compared to you. example, goku punching recoom. see? this fight is over for cell.
cell isnt fast enough
cell isnt strong enough
sure hes smart, but not smart enough
Oh he has the moves.... He is smart enough to, what if he threw a spirit bomb?
and cell can make a spirit bomb, since when? | | | | 01 Mar 2008 02:10 am |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,478 OFFLINE | SSJ-MASTER wrote:
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yes, cell has those. but picolo was smarter than freeza, but, well, freeza pwned him.
and cell cant regenerate that fast from serious injuries. and a punch from ssj2 gohan made cell spat out 18. picolos regenerating powers didnt help him at the least
But Piccolo didn’t know everything about Frieza either. His weaknesses, attacks,etc.
and cell knows 17s weakness? 17 is open to attacks if his absorbing ki attacks. and attacks? the arm auto cannon, the super electric ball thing?
yeah, cell, KNOWS 17. NOT SUPER 17.
well, you are right saying that super 17 can absorb his attacks, but he can only absorb so much. he has his limits as cell does also
and super 17s limits exceeds gokus kamehameha x10. which by the way is a lot stronger than gohans so called father-son kamehameha. and cell cant generate that much energy for an attack
so,super 17, pwns cell.
He does, in a sense. Unless Cell decides to pull some sort of dirty trick like the absorption.
cell, cant absorbed any one but 17 and 18. and the absorbing stops when he became perfect. if he can absorb past his perfect form then, he should have absorbed vegeta or trunks to get stronger. he did that strategy while he was in his first form. remember, cell absorbed an entire city populace to get stronger.
But it could be possible for him to go past his perfect form. That is not impossible.
actually, it is impossible.
gero created cell to achieve his PERFECT FORM. which means after cell became perfect, that is his final form.
even the super perfect form is only a powered up form of the normal perfect form. so, perfect form is cells final form.
Yes, you are right. But who is to say that absorbing super 17 couldn’t give him a power boost? no transformation required.
yes, if he can absorb super 17. you see, super 17 isnt the type of person that will stand there and say, hey, absorb me. hes not vegeta. 17, goes for the kill. which is why, ssj4 goku had a hard time fighting him. not to mention, super 17 is absorbing every ki blast goku throws at him
yeah and about the absorbing thing, his greatest advantage can also become his greatest weakness as you remember from gt. 17 would put up a fight, but Cell would have some scheme planned to absorb him or to defeat him by getting him when he is off guard. He is Cell after all.
what plan? like his plan in getting gohan so pissed he transformed? goku took while to see super 17 weakness. and goku is smarter or just as smart as cell, so, before cell even sees super 17s weakness, he’ll be killed first.
Not exactly. He does have Goku’s DNA as well, so I think the he would have the same thing in mind as Goku would. Like when Trunks fought Cell, Cell knew that he had a power advantage, but what he earned in power he lacked in speed. He became slower. Power is nothing unless you can make a direct hit.
of course 17 is not only stronger, he is much faster than cell. so there they are, cell, while conjuring up on a plan, super 17 speed blitz him and punched through his chest. game set and match
One punch does not decide a battle. If it did, then Goku would be the winner generally every time because he usually gets the first punch. Any way. Cell also has a technique similar to Piccolo where he can split himself into four different copies of himself for example when he faced goku in the cell games.
first of all, thats tiens technique. 2nd, that technique, divides the users power depending on the number of copies. 3rd, its a filler.
and a punch could decide a battle. especially if that punch came from someone thats so powerful compared to you. example, goku punching recoom. see? this fight is over for cell.
cell isnt fast enough
cell isnt strong enough
sure hes smart, but not smart enough
And you should also remember that Piccolo has the same technique as Tien. But Cell can make four copies instead of three. And if the fight is over for Cell then Goku would have been defeated a long time ago. Which would not be the case. | | | 01 Mar 2008 02:11 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50 Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,508 OFFLINE | Haha...
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SSJ-MASTER Guest | oh right. cell has the moves? what moves? kamehameha? super 17 absorbed ssj4 gokus kamehameha x10.
smart enough? hmmmmm, cell isnt smarter than goku. and goku took a while before he noticed 17 weakness. so.... | | | 01 Mar 2008 02:13 am |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63 Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | SSJ-MASTER wrote:
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yes, cell has those. but picolo was smarter than freeza, but, well, freeza pwned him.
and cell cant regenerate that fast from serious injuries. and a punch from ssj2 gohan made cell spat out 18. picolos regenerating powers didnt help him at the least
But Piccolo didn’t know everything about Frieza either. His weaknesses, attacks,etc.
and cell knows 17s weakness? 17 is open to attacks if his absorbing ki attacks. and attacks? the arm auto cannon, the super electric ball thing?
yeah, cell, KNOWS 17. NOT SUPER 17.
well, you are right saying that super 17 can absorb his attacks, but he can only absorb so much. he has his limits as cell does also
and super 17s limits exceeds gokus kamehameha x10. which by the way is a lot stronger than gohans so called father-son kamehameha. and cell cant generate that much energy for an attack
so,super 17, pwns cell.
He does, in a sense. Unless Cell decides to pull some sort of dirty trick like the absorption.
cell, cant absorbed any one but 17 and 18. and the absorbing stops when he became perfect. if he can absorb past his perfect form then, he should have absorbed vegeta or trunks to get stronger. he did that strategy while he was in his first form. remember, cell absorbed an entire city populace to get stronger.
But it could be possible for him to go past his perfect form. That is not impossible.
actually, it is impossible.
gero created cell to achieve his PERFECT FORM. which means after cell became perfect, that is his final form.
even the super perfect form is only a powered up form of the normal perfect form. so, perfect form is cells final form.
Yes, you are right. But who is to say that absorbing super 17 couldn’t give him a power boost? no transformation required.
yes, if he can absorb super 17. you see, super 17 isnt the type of person that will stand there and say, hey, absorb me. hes not vegeta. 17, goes for the kill. which is why, ssj4 goku had a hard time fighting him. not to mention, super 17 is absorbing every ki blast goku throws at him
yeah and about the absorbing thing, his greatest advantage can also become his greatest weakness as you remember from gt. 17 would put up a fight, but Cell would have some scheme planned to absorb him or to defeat him by getting him when he is off guard. He is Cell after all.
what plan? like his plan in getting gohan so pissed he transformed? goku took while to see super 17 weakness. and goku is smarter or just as smart as cell, so, before cell even sees super 17s weakness, he’ll be killed first.
Not exactly. He does have Goku’s DNA as well, so I think the he would have the same thing in mind as Goku would. Like when Trunks fought Cell, Cell knew that he had a power advantage, but what he earned in power he lacked in speed. He became slower. Power is nothing unless you can make a direct hit.
of course 17 is not only stronger, he is much faster than cell. so there they are, cell, while conjuring up on a plan, super 17 speed blitz him and punched through his chest. game set and match
One punch does not decide a battle. If it did, then Goku would be the winner generally every time because he usually gets the first punch. Any way. Cell also has a technique similar to Piccolo where he can split himself into four different copies of himself for example when he faced goku in the cell games.
first of all, thats tiens technique. 2nd, that technique, divides the users power depending on the number of copies. 3rd, its a filler.
and a punch could decide a battle. especially if that punch came from someone thats so powerful compared to you. example, goku punching recoom. see? this fight is over for cell.
cell isnt fast enough
cell isnt strong enough
sure hes smart, but not smart enough
Oh he has the moves.... He is smart enough to, what if he threw a spirit bomb?
and cell can make a spirit bomb, since when?
He stated he could use it at the beginning of the imperfect Cell arc. It’s in the manga.
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SSJ-MASTER Guest | NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
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yes, cell has those. but picolo was smarter than freeza, but, well, freeza pwned him.
and cell cant regenerate that fast from serious injuries. and a punch from ssj2 gohan made cell spat out 18. picolos regenerating powers didnt help him at the least
But Piccolo didn’t know everything about Frieza either. His weaknesses, attacks,etc.
and cell knows 17s weakness? 17 is open to attacks if his absorbing ki attacks. and attacks? the arm auto cannon, the super electric ball thing?
yeah, cell, KNOWS 17. NOT SUPER 17.
well, you are right saying that super 17 can absorb his attacks, but he can only absorb so much. he has his limits as cell does also
and super 17s limits exceeds gokus kamehameha x10. which by the way is a lot stronger than gohans so called father-son kamehameha. and cell cant generate that much energy for an attack
so,super 17, pwns cell.
He does, in a sense. Unless Cell decides to pull some sort of dirty trick like the absorption.
cell, cant absorbed any one but 17 and 18. and the absorbing stops when he became perfect. if he can absorb past his perfect form then, he should have absorbed vegeta or trunks to get stronger. he did that strategy while he was in his first form. remember, cell absorbed an entire city populace to get stronger.
But it could be possible for him to go past his perfect form. That is not impossible.
actually, it is impossible.
gero created cell to achieve his PERFECT FORM. which means after cell became perfect, that is his final form.
even the super perfect form is only a powered up form of the normal perfect form. so, perfect form is cells final form.
Yes, you are right. But who is to say that absorbing super 17 couldn’t give him a power boost? no transformation required.
yes, if he can absorb super 17. you see, super 17 isnt the type of person that will stand there and say, hey, absorb me. hes not vegeta. 17, goes for the kill. which is why, ssj4 goku had a hard time fighting him. not to mention, super 17 is absorbing every ki blast goku throws at him
yeah and about the absorbing thing, his greatest advantage can also become his greatest weakness as you remember from gt. 17 would put up a fight, but Cell would have some scheme planned to absorb him or to defeat him by getting him when he is off guard. He is Cell after all.
what plan? like his plan in getting gohan so pissed he transformed? goku took while to see super 17 weakness. and goku is smarter or just as smart as cell, so, before cell even sees super 17s weakness, he’ll be killed first.
Not exactly. He does have Goku’s DNA as well, so I think the he would have the same thing in mind as Goku would. Like when Trunks fought Cell, Cell knew that he had a power advantage, but what he earned in power he lacked in speed. He became slower. Power is nothing unless you can make a direct hit.
of course 17 is not only stronger, he is much faster than cell. so there they are, cell, while conjuring up on a plan, super 17 speed blitz him and punched through his chest. game set and match
One punch does not decide a battle. If it did, then Goku would be the winner generally every time because he usually gets the first punch. Any way. Cell also has a technique similar to Piccolo where he can split himself into four different copies of himself for example when he faced goku in the cell games.
first of all, thats tiens technique. 2nd, that technique, divides the users power depending on the number of copies. 3rd, its a filler.
and a punch could decide a battle. especially if that punch came from someone thats so powerful compared to you. example, goku punching recoom. see? this fight is over for cell.
cell isnt fast enough
cell isnt strong enough
sure hes smart, but not smart enough
And you should also remember that Piccolo has the same technique as Tien. But Cell can make four copies instead of three. And if the fight is over for Cell then Goku would have been defeated a long time ago. Which would not be the case.
yes, i saw the episode. and do you remember how goku pwn all 4 cells? thats because cells power was divided into 4. which means, each cell only has 1/4 of hes full power.
note: goku was weaker than cell. and goku pwned all 4 cells.
so, that wont help cell win. | | | 01 Mar 2008 02:16 am |
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SSJ-MASTER Guest | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
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yes, cell has those. but picolo was smarter than freeza, but, well, freeza pwned him.
and cell cant regenerate that fast from serious injuries. and a punch from ssj2 gohan made cell spat out 18. picolos regenerating powers didnt help him at the least
But Piccolo didn’t know everything about Frieza either. His weaknesses, attacks,etc.
and cell knows 17s weakness? 17 is open to attacks if his absorbing ki attacks. and attacks? the arm auto cannon, the super electric ball thing?
yeah, cell, KNOWS 17. NOT SUPER 17.
well, you are right saying that super 17 can absorb his attacks, but he can only absorb so much. he has his limits as cell does also
and super 17s limits exceeds gokus kamehameha x10. which by the way is a lot stronger than gohans so called father-son kamehameha. and cell cant generate that much energy for an attack
so,super 17, pwns cell.
He does, in a sense. Unless Cell decides to pull some sort of dirty trick like the absorption.
cell, cant absorbed any one but 17 and 18. and the absorbing stops when he became perfect. if he can absorb past his perfect form then, he should have absorbed vegeta or trunks to get stronger. he did that strategy while he was in his first form. remember, cell absorbed an entire city populace to get stronger.
But it could be possible for him to go past his perfect form. That is not impossible.
actually, it is impossible.
gero created cell to achieve his PERFECT FORM. which means after cell became perfect, that is his final form.
even the super perfect form is only a powered up form of the normal perfect form. so, perfect form is cells final form.
Yes, you are right. But who is to say that absorbing super 17 couldn’t give him a power boost? no transformation required.
yes, if he can absorb super 17. you see, super 17 isnt the type of person that will stand there and say, hey, absorb me. hes not vegeta. 17, goes for the kill. which is why, ssj4 goku had a hard time fighting him. not to mention, super 17 is absorbing every ki blast goku throws at him
yeah and about the absorbing thing, his greatest advantage can also become his greatest weakness as you remember from gt. 17 would put up a fight, but Cell would have some scheme planned to absorb him or to defeat him by getting him when he is off guard. He is Cell after all.
what plan? like his plan in getting gohan so pissed he transformed? goku took while to see super 17 weakness. and goku is smarter or just as smart as cell, so, before cell even sees super 17s weakness, he’ll be killed first.
Not exactly. He does have Goku’s DNA as well, so I think the he would have the same thing in mind as Goku would. Like when Trunks fought Cell, Cell knew that he had a power advantage, but what he earned in power he lacked in speed. He became slower. Power is nothing unless you can make a direct hit.
of course 17 is not only stronger, he is much faster than cell. so there they are, cell, while conjuring up on a plan, super 17 speed blitz him and punched through his chest. game set and match
One punch does not decide a battle. If it did, then Goku would be the winner generally every time because he usually gets the first punch. Any way. Cell also has a technique similar to Piccolo where he can split himself into four different copies of himself for example when he faced goku in the cell games.
first of all, thats tiens technique. 2nd, that technique, divides the users power depending on the number of copies. 3rd, its a filler.
and a punch could decide a battle. especially if that punch came from someone thats so powerful compared to you. example, goku punching recoom. see? this fight is over for cell.
cell isnt fast enough
cell isnt strong enough
sure hes smart, but not smart enough
Oh he has the moves.... He is smart enough to, what if he threw a spirit bomb?
and cell can make a spirit bomb, since when?
He stated he could use it at the beginning of the imperfect Cell arc. It’s in the manga.
cells spirit bomb. hmmmmm, the same spirit bomb that takes minutes to prepare? yup that will help cell a lot. | | | 01 Mar 2008 02:17 am |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,478 OFFLINE | SSJ-MASTER wrote:
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yes, cell has those. but picolo was smarter than freeza, but, well, freeza pwned him.
and cell cant regenerate that fast from serious injuries. and a punch from ssj2 gohan made cell spat out 18. picolos regenerating powers didnt help him at the least
But Piccolo didn’t know everything about Frieza either. His weaknesses, attacks,etc.
and cell knows 17s weakness? 17 is open to attacks if his absorbing ki attacks. and attacks? the arm auto cannon, the super electric ball thing?
yeah, cell, KNOWS 17. NOT SUPER 17.
well, you are right saying that super 17 can absorb his attacks, but he can only absorb so much. he has his limits as cell does also
and super 17s limits exceeds gokus kamehameha x10. which by the way is a lot stronger than gohans so called father-son kamehameha. and cell cant generate that much energy for an attack
so,super 17, pwns cell.
He does, in a sense. Unless Cell decides to pull some sort of dirty trick like the absorption.
cell, cant absorbed any one but 17 and 18. and the absorbing stops when he became perfect. if he can absorb past his perfect form then, he should have absorbed vegeta or trunks to get stronger. he did that strategy while he was in his first form. remember, cell absorbed an entire city populace to get stronger.
But it could be possible for him to go past his perfect form. That is not impossible.
actually, it is impossible.
gero created cell to achieve his PERFECT FORM. which means after cell became perfect, that is his final form.
even the super perfect form is only a powered up form of the normal perfect form. so, perfect form is cells final form.
Yes, you are right. But who is to say that absorbing super 17 couldn’t give him a power boost? no transformation required.
yes, if he can absorb super 17. you see, super 17 isnt the type of person that will stand there and say, hey, absorb me. hes not vegeta. 17, goes for the kill. which is why, ssj4 goku had a hard time fighting him. not to mention, super 17 is absorbing every ki blast goku throws at him
yeah and about the absorbing thing, his greatest advantage can also become his greatest weakness as you remember from gt. 17 would put up a fight, but Cell would have some scheme planned to absorb him or to defeat him by getting him when he is off guard. He is Cell after all.
what plan? like his plan in getting gohan so pissed he transformed? goku took while to see super 17 weakness. and goku is smarter or just as smart as cell, so, before cell even sees super 17s weakness, he’ll be killed first.
Not exactly. He does have Goku’s DNA as well, so I think the he would have the same thing in mind as Goku would. Like when Trunks fought Cell, Cell knew that he had a power advantage, but what he earned in power he lacked in speed. He became slower. Power is nothing unless you can make a direct hit.
of course 17 is not only stronger, he is much faster than cell. so there they are, cell, while conjuring up on a plan, super 17 speed blitz him and punched through his chest. game set and match
One punch does not decide a battle. If it did, then Goku would be the winner generally every time because he usually gets the first punch. Any way. Cell also has a technique similar to Piccolo where he can split himself into four different copies of himself for example when he faced goku in the cell games.
first of all, thats tiens technique. 2nd, that technique, divides the users power depending on the number of copies. 3rd, its a filler.
and a punch could decide a battle. especially if that punch came from someone thats so powerful compared to you. example, goku punching recoom. see? this fight is over for cell.
cell isnt fast enough
cell isnt strong enough
sure hes smart, but not smart enough
Oh he has the moves.... He is smart enough to, what if he threw a spirit bomb?
and cell can make a spirit bomb, since when?
Goku is the only one known to have used it. Cell can use it, he just not chosen to do it | | | 01 Mar 2008 02:19 am |
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cells spirit bomb. hmmmmm, the same spirit bomb that takes minutes to prepare? yup that will help cell a lot. | | | 01 Mar 2008 02:19 am |
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yes, cell has those. but picolo was smarter than freeza, but, well, freeza pwned him.
and cell cant regenerate that fast from serious injuries. and a punch from ssj2 gohan made cell spat out 18. picolos regenerating powers didnt help him at the least
But Piccolo didn’t know everything about Frieza either. His weaknesses, attacks,etc.
and cell knows 17s weakness? 17 is open to attacks if his absorbing ki attacks. and attacks? the arm auto cannon, the super electric ball thing?
yeah, cell, KNOWS 17. NOT SUPER 17.
well, you are right saying that super 17 can absorb his attacks, but he can only absorb so much. he has his limits as cell does also
and super 17s limits exceeds gokus kamehameha x10. which by the way is a lot stronger than gohans so called father-son kamehameha. and cell cant generate that much energy for an attack
so,super 17, pwns cell.
He does, in a sense. Unless Cell decides to pull some sort of dirty trick like the absorption.
cell, cant absorbed any one but 17 and 18. and the absorbing stops when he became perfect. if he can absorb past his perfect form then, he should have absorbed vegeta or trunks to get stronger. he did that strategy while he was in his first form. remember, cell absorbed an entire city populace to get stronger.
But it could be possible for him to go past his perfect form. That is not impossible.
actually, it is impossible.
gero created cell to achieve his PERFECT FORM. which means after cell became perfect, that is his final form.
even the super perfect form is only a powered up form of the normal perfect form. so, perfect form is cells final form.
Yes, you are right. But who is to say that absorbing super 17 couldn’t give him a power boost? no transformation required.
yes, if he can absorb super 17. you see, super 17 isnt the type of person that will stand there and say, hey, absorb me. hes not vegeta. 17, goes for the kill. which is why, ssj4 goku had a hard time fighting him. not to mention, super 17 is absorbing every ki blast goku throws at him
yeah and about the absorbing thing, his greatest advantage can also become his greatest weakness as you remember from gt. 17 would put up a fight, but Cell would have some scheme planned to absorb him or to defeat him by getting him when he is off guard. He is Cell after all.
what plan? like his plan in getting gohan so pissed he transformed? goku took while to see super 17 weakness. and goku is smarter or just as smart as cell, so, before cell even sees super 17s weakness, he’ll be killed first.
Not exactly. He does have Goku’s DNA as well, so I think the he would have the same thing in mind as Goku would. Like when Trunks fought Cell, Cell knew that he had a power advantage, but what he earned in power he lacked in speed. He became slower. Power is nothing unless you can make a direct hit.
of course 17 is not only stronger, he is much faster than cell. so there they are, cell, while conjuring up on a plan, super 17 speed blitz him and punched through his chest. game set and match
One punch does not decide a battle. If it did, then Goku would be the winner generally every time because he usually gets the first punch. Any way. Cell also has a technique similar to Piccolo where he can split himself into four different copies of himself for example when he faced goku in the cell games.
first of all, thats tiens technique. 2nd, that technique, divides the users power depending on the number of copies. 3rd, its a filler.
and a punch could decide a battle. especially if that punch came from someone thats so powerful compared to you. example, goku punching recoom. see? this fight is over for cell.
cell isnt fast enough
cell isnt strong enough
sure hes smart, but not smart enough
Oh he has the moves.... He is smart enough to, what if he threw a spirit bomb?
and cell can make a spirit bomb, since when?
He stated he could use it at the beginning of the imperfect Cell arc. It’s in the manga.
cells spirit bomb. hmmmmm, the same spirit bomb that takes minutes to prepare? yup that will help cell a lot.
Actually it could to some degree, he could IT out of sight and then power it up and then IT behind him and then bam.
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SSJ-MASTER Guest | IT. hmmmmm, if its that easy, then goku should have done it to kid buu. but goku didnt IT behind kid buu now did he?
besides, 17 has a barrier. a barrier strong enough to protect himself from gokus body explosion. | | | 01 Mar 2008 02:24 am |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | SSJ-MASTER wrote:
IT. hmmmmm, if its that easy, then goku should have done it to kid buu. but goku didnt IT behind kid buu now did he?
besides, 17 has a barrier. a barrier strong enough to protect himself from gokus body explosion.
Your forgetting that was a massive spirit bomb and all that.
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Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,478 OFFLINE | SSJ-MASTER wrote:
IT. hmmmmm, if its that easy, then goku should have done it to kid buu. but goku didnt IT behind kid buu now did he?
besides, 17 has a barrier. a barrier strong enough to protect himself from gokus body explosion.
Cell also has a barrier which most of the androids have been known yo use which will block any of 17’s attacks the he throws at Cell, unless you want to use the one hit kill theory again. | | | 01 Mar 2008 02:28 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,508 OFFLINE | Cell cant win againts super 17 since Cell can be defeated using SSJ2 Gohan (weak)...
While SSJ3 Goku (kid) cant win againts super 17... ---
“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster — | | | 01 Mar 2008 02:28 am |
SSJ-MASTER Guest | and youre forgetting goku used up all his power for that explosion. and goku was in his ssj4 form. goku converted some of his life force into ki to make that explosion.
another thing youre forgetting. even if cell use IT, it wont do much good. remember when goku used IT against cell in their fist fight? cell can actually rival gokus IT speed. because cell is a lot stronger and faster
thats the same here. cell has IT, but 17 is stronger and faster. | | | 01 Mar 2008 02:31 am |
SSJ-MASTER Guest | NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
IT. hmmmmm, if its that easy, then goku should have done it to kid buu. but goku didnt IT behind kid buu now did he?
besides, 17 has a barrier. a barrier strong enough to protect himself from gokus body explosion.
Cell also has a barrier which most of the androids have been known yo use which will block any of 17’s attacks the he throws at Cell, unless you want to use the one hit kill theory again.
and what makes you think cells barrier is strong enough?
17 has a barrier that is strong enough to proect him from a ssj4. i really doubt if cells barrier is even that strong. | | | 01 Mar 2008 02:36 am |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,478 OFFLINE | SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
IT. hmmmmm, if its that easy, then goku should have done it to kid buu. but goku didnt IT behind kid buu now did he?
besides, 17 has a barrier. a barrier strong enough to protect himself from gokus body explosion.
Cell also has a barrier which most of the androids have been known yo use which will block any of 17’s attacks the he throws at Cell, unless you want to use the one hit kill theory again.
and what makes you think cells barrier is strong enough?
17 has a barrier that is strong enough to proect him from a ssj4. i really doubt if cells barrier is even that strong.
What makes you think that it is not? Just because he has a barrier that will protect him from an ssj4 one time does not mean that it will keep working. | | | 01 Mar 2008 02:40 am |
SSJ-MASTER Guest | NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
SSJ-MASTER wrote:
IT. hmmmmm, if its that easy, then goku should have done it to kid buu. but goku didnt IT behind kid buu now did he?
besides, 17 has a barrier. a barrier strong enough to protect himself from gokus body explosion.
Cell also has a barrier which most of the androids have been known yo use which will block any of 17’s attacks the he throws at Cell, unless you want to use the one hit kill theory again.
and what makes you think cells barrier is strong enough?
17 has a barrier that is strong enough to proect him from a ssj4. i really doubt if cells barrier is even that strong.
What makes you think that it is not? Just because he has a barrier that will protect him from an ssj4 one time does not mean that it will keep working.
i think its not because:
1. cell is weak compared to 17
2. the barrier is composed of ki. and cells super perfect form super solar kamehameha is still weaker compared to gohans power. so, cell CANT generate enough power to strengthen his barrier.
and 17 barrier protected him from a ssj4 explosion. what more do you want? that right there says it all. 17 barrier is that strong.
now, answer my question.
what makes you think cells barrier is strong enough to protect him from a being thats roughly 5 times as powerful? | | | 01 Mar 2008 02:42 am |
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