seed wrote:
infact goku is more power than vegeta but the kaioken x4 empty him but if he use that in early stage he totally beat vegeta.
Partially true. Vegeta did admit this HOWEVER, Ozaru Vegeta was stronger than Goku. Also Kaioken multiplies his power by 4 so...
the difference is oozaru cant emty saiyan power unlike kaioken.
like example if goku power base is 1 and his full power is 100 and he used 4x means base power could be 4x and the 100 power could empty him using kaioken.
Vegeta is still stronger than Goku. Goku just exceeds Vegeta whenever he multiplies his strength by four.
no,a x4 is powerfull than oozaru
then why was goku getting his ass handed to him be vegeta? it is powerful, but he used up most of his power and that left him weakened which gave vegeta the lead in the battle.
because kaioken has limit and drains goku’s power inside him
and the oozaru form of vegeta has no limit. the only thing that can stop him is if his tail was cut, which goku knows anything about in this battle.
that is the weakness.
maybe there is a limit but it never shown.
because there is none. the tail is the only weak spot.
seed wrote:
infact goku is more power than vegeta but the kaioken x4 empty him but if he use that in early stage he totally beat vegeta.
Partially true. Vegeta did admit this HOWEVER, Ozaru Vegeta was stronger than Goku. Also Kaioken multiplies his power by 4 so...
the difference is oozaru cant emty saiyan power unlike kaioken.
like example if goku power base is 1 and his full power is 100 and he used 4x means base power could be 4x and the 100 power could empty him using kaioken.
Vegeta is still stronger than Goku. Goku just exceeds Vegeta whenever he multiplies his strength by four.
no,a x4 is powerfull than oozaru
then why was goku getting his ass handed to him be vegeta? it is powerful, but he used up most of his power and that left him weakened which gave vegeta the lead in the battle.
because kaioken has limit and drains goku’s power inside him
and the oozaru form of vegeta has no limit. the only thing that can stop him is if his tail was cut, which goku knows anything about in this battle.
that is the weakness.
maybe there is a limit but it never shown.
because there is none. the tail is the only weak spot.
seed wrote:
infact goku is more power than vegeta but the kaioken x4 empty him but if he use that in early stage he totally beat vegeta.
Partially true. Vegeta did admit this HOWEVER, Ozaru Vegeta was stronger than Goku. Also Kaioken multiplies his power by 4 so...
the difference is oozaru cant emty saiyan power unlike kaioken.
like example if goku power base is 1 and his full power is 100 and he used 4x means base power could be 4x and the 100 power could empty him using kaioken.
Vegeta is still stronger than Goku. Goku just exceeds Vegeta whenever he multiplies his strength by four.
no,a x4 is powerfull than oozaru
then why was goku getting his ass handed to him be vegeta? it is powerful, but he used up most of his power and that left him weakened which gave vegeta the lead in the battle.
because kaioken has limit and drains goku’s power inside him
and the oozaru form of vegeta has no limit. the only thing that can stop him is if his tail was cut, which goku knows anything about in this battle.
that is the weakness.
maybe there is a limit but it never shown.
because there is none. the tail is the only weak spot.
the base form has limit
the ssj form too
why not this?
i dont get this vs form the SAGA IS SELF EXPANITORY vegita base is stronger then gokus base goku kainoken puts him fast and stronger then vagita. Vagita full powerd gatlen gun is weaker then gokus x4 kanioken with kamahmaha and we will never know if the oozaru was stronger then kaniken x4 (it most deffenily was) b/c goku was so worn down a pat on the back hurt him
seed wrote:
infact goku is more power than vegeta but the kaioken x4 empty him but if he use that in early stage he totally beat vegeta.
Partially true. Vegeta did admit this HOWEVER, Ozaru Vegeta was stronger than Goku. Also Kaioken multiplies his power by 4 so...
the difference is oozaru cant emty saiyan power unlike kaioken.
like example if goku power base is 1 and his full power is 100 and he used 4x means base power could be 4x and the 100 power could empty him using kaioken.
Vegeta is still stronger than Goku. Goku just exceeds Vegeta whenever he multiplies his strength by four.
no,a x4 is powerfull than oozaru
then why was goku getting his ass handed to him be vegeta? it is powerful, but he used up most of his power and that left him weakened which gave vegeta the lead in the battle.
because kaioken has limit and drains goku’s power inside him
and the oozaru form of vegeta has no limit. the only thing that can stop him is if his tail was cut, which goku knows anything about in this battle.
that is the weakness.
maybe there is a limit but it never shown.
because there is none. the tail is the only weak spot.
or the moon.
not anymore. if you remember that vegeta can use a blast that rivals the powers that the moon has on saiyans.
guest 91 wrote:
i dont get this vs form the SAGA IS SELF EXPANITORY vegita base is stronger then gokus base goku kainoken puts him fast and stronger then vagita. Vagita full powerd gatlen gun is weaker then gokus x4 kanioken with kamahmaha and we will never know if the oozaru was stronger then kaniken x4 (it most deffenily was) b/c goku was so worn down a pat on the back hurt him
guest 91 wrote:
i dont get this vs form the SAGA IS SELF EXPANITORY vegita base is stronger then gokus base goku kainoken puts him fast and stronger then vagita. Vagita full powerd gatlen gun is weaker then gokus x4 kanioken with kamahmaha and we will never know if the oozaru was stronger then kaniken x4 (it most deffenily was) b/c goku was so worn down a pat on the back hurt him
may be the x4 can add x4 but still x4,did you get?
this is for power only not the speed.
seed wrote:
infact goku is more power than vegeta but the kaioken x4 empty him but if he use that in early stage he totally beat vegeta.
Partially true. Vegeta did admit this HOWEVER, Ozaru Vegeta was stronger than Goku. Also Kaioken multiplies his power by 4 so...
the difference is oozaru cant emty saiyan power unlike kaioken.
like example if goku power base is 1 and his full power is 100 and he used 4x means base power could be 4x and the 100 power could empty him using kaioken.
Vegeta is still stronger than Goku. Goku just exceeds Vegeta whenever he multiplies his strength by four.
no,a x4 is powerfull than oozaru
then why was goku getting his ass handed to him be vegeta? it is powerful, but he used up most of his power and that left him weakened which gave vegeta the lead in the battle.
because kaioken has limit and drains goku’s power inside him
and the oozaru form of vegeta has no limit. the only thing that can stop him is if his tail was cut, which goku knows anything about in this battle.
that is the weakness.
maybe there is a limit but it never shown.
because there is none. the tail is the only weak spot.
or the moon.
not anymore. if you remember that vegeta can use a blast that rivals the powers that the moon has on saiyans.
thats when theres no moon. and if you remember, once the moon is gone saiyans will return to theyre base forms, probably the same with the artificial moon ball.
seed wrote:
infact goku is more power than vegeta but the kaioken x4 empty him but if he use that in early stage he totally beat vegeta.
Partially true. Vegeta did admit this HOWEVER, Ozaru Vegeta was stronger than Goku. Also Kaioken multiplies his power by 4 so...
the difference is oozaru cant emty saiyan power unlike kaioken.
like example if goku power base is 1 and his full power is 100 and he used 4x means base power could be 4x and the 100 power could empty him using kaioken.
Vegeta is still stronger than Goku. Goku just exceeds Vegeta whenever he multiplies his strength by four.
no,a x4 is powerfull than oozaru
then why was goku getting his ass handed to him be vegeta? it is powerful, but he used up most of his power and that left him weakened which gave vegeta the lead in the battle.
because kaioken has limit and drains goku’s power inside him
and the oozaru form of vegeta has no limit. the only thing that can stop him is if his tail was cut, which goku knows anything about in this battle.
that is the weakness.
maybe there is a limit but it never shown.
because there is none. the tail is the only weak spot.
or the moon.
not anymore. if you remember that vegeta can use a blast that rivals the powers that the moon has on saiyans.
thats when theres no moon. and if you remember, once the moon is gone saiyans will return to theyre base forms, probably the same with the artificial moon ball.
when it is gone, yes. but the only ones who know the moon ball technique are bardock, king vegeta, and vegeta.
seed wrote:
infact goku is more power than vegeta but the kaioken x4 empty him but if he use that in early stage he totally beat vegeta.
Partially true. Vegeta did admit this HOWEVER, Ozaru Vegeta was stronger than Goku. Also Kaioken multiplies his power by 4 so...
the difference is oozaru cant emty saiyan power unlike kaioken.
like example if goku power base is 1 and his full power is 100 and he used 4x means base power could be 4x and the 100 power could empty him using kaioken.
Vegeta is still stronger than Goku. Goku just exceeds Vegeta whenever he multiplies his strength by four.
no,a x4 is powerfull than oozaru
then why was goku getting his ass handed to him be vegeta? it is powerful, but he used up most of his power and that left him weakened which gave vegeta the lead in the battle.
because kaioken has limit and drains goku’s power inside him
and the oozaru form of vegeta has no limit. the only thing that can stop him is if his tail was cut, which goku knows anything about in this battle.
that is the weakness.
maybe there is a limit but it never shown.
because there is none. the tail is the only weak spot.
or the moon.
not anymore. if you remember that vegeta can use a blast that rivals the powers that the moon has on saiyans.
thats when theres no moon. and if you remember, once the moon is gone saiyans will return to theyre base forms, probably the same with the artificial moon ball.
when it is gone, yes. but the only ones who know the moon ball technique are bardock, king vegeta, and vegeta.
well, thats true. but once the moon ball is gone so will the transformation.
seed wrote:
infact goku is more power than vegeta but the kaioken x4 empty him but if he use that in early stage he totally beat vegeta.
Partially true. Vegeta did admit this HOWEVER, Ozaru Vegeta was stronger than Goku. Also Kaioken multiplies his power by 4 so...
the difference is oozaru cant emty saiyan power unlike kaioken.
like example if goku power base is 1 and his full power is 100 and he used 4x means base power could be 4x and the 100 power could empty him using kaioken.
Vegeta is still stronger than Goku. Goku just exceeds Vegeta whenever he multiplies his strength by four.
no,a x4 is powerfull than oozaru
then why was goku getting his ass handed to him be vegeta? it is powerful, but he used up most of his power and that left him weakened which gave vegeta the lead in the battle.
because kaioken has limit and drains goku’s power inside him
and the oozaru form of vegeta has no limit. the only thing that can stop him is if his tail was cut, which goku knows anything about in this battle.
that is the weakness.
maybe there is a limit but it never shown.
because there is none. the tail is the only weak spot.
or the moon.
not anymore. if you remember that vegeta can use a blast that rivals the powers that the moon has on saiyans.
thats when theres no moon. and if you remember, once the moon is gone saiyans will return to theyre base forms, probably the same with the artificial moon ball.
when it is gone, yes. but the only ones who know the moon ball technique are bardock, king vegeta, and vegeta.
well, thats true. but once the moon ball is gone so will the transformation.
not really. vegeta did it in the daytime and the ball was already gone. he was still in the transformation.
seed wrote:
infact goku is more power than vegeta but the kaioken x4 empty him but if he use that in early stage he totally beat vegeta.
Partially true. Vegeta did admit this HOWEVER, Ozaru Vegeta was stronger than Goku. Also Kaioken multiplies his power by 4 so...
the difference is oozaru cant emty saiyan power unlike kaioken.
like example if goku power base is 1 and his full power is 100 and he used 4x means base power could be 4x and the 100 power could empty him using kaioken.
Vegeta is still stronger than Goku. Goku just exceeds Vegeta whenever he multiplies his strength by four.
no,a x4 is powerfull than oozaru
then why was goku getting his ass handed to him be vegeta? it is powerful, but he used up most of his power and that left him weakened which gave vegeta the lead in the battle.
because kaioken has limit and drains goku’s power inside him
and the oozaru form of vegeta has no limit. the only thing that can stop him is if his tail was cut, which goku knows anything about in this battle.
that is the weakness.
maybe there is a limit but it never shown.
because there is none. the tail is the only weak spot.
or the moon.
not anymore. if you remember that vegeta can use a blast that rivals the powers that the moon has on saiyans.
thats when theres no moon. and if you remember, once the moon is gone saiyans will return to theyre base forms, probably the same with the artificial moon ball.
when it is gone, yes. but the only ones who know the moon ball technique are bardock, king vegeta, and vegeta.
well, thats true. but once the moon ball is gone so will the transformation.
not really. vegeta did it in the daytime and the ball was already gone. he was still in the transformation.
nope, the ball was still there. thats the same ball gohan saw before he transformed
seed wrote:
infact goku is more power than vegeta but the kaioken x4 empty him but if he use that in early stage he totally beat vegeta.
Partially true. Vegeta did admit this HOWEVER, Ozaru Vegeta was stronger than Goku. Also Kaioken multiplies his power by 4 so...
the difference is oozaru cant emty saiyan power unlike kaioken.
like example if goku power base is 1 and his full power is 100 and he used 4x means base power could be 4x and the 100 power could empty him using kaioken.
Vegeta is still stronger than Goku. Goku just exceeds Vegeta whenever he multiplies his strength by four.
no,a x4 is powerfull than oozaru
then why was goku getting his ass handed to him be vegeta? it is powerful, but he used up most of his power and that left him weakened which gave vegeta the lead in the battle.
because kaioken has limit and drains goku’s power inside him
and the oozaru form of vegeta has no limit. the only thing that can stop him is if his tail was cut, which goku knows anything about in this battle.
that is the weakness.
maybe there is a limit but it never shown.
because there is none. the tail is the only weak spot.
or the moon.
not anymore. if you remember that vegeta can use a blast that rivals the powers that the moon has on saiyans.
thats when theres no moon. and if you remember, once the moon is gone saiyans will return to theyre base forms, probably the same with the artificial moon ball.
when it is gone, yes. but the only ones who know the moon ball technique are bardock, king vegeta, and vegeta.
well, thats true. but once the moon ball is gone so will the transformation.
not really. vegeta did it in the daytime and the ball was already gone. he was still in the transformation.
nope, the ball was still there. thats the same ball gohan saw before he transformed
yeah. had to watch the vid for myself. i remember now.
guest 91 wrote:
i dont get this vs form the SAGA IS SELF EXPANITORY vegita base is stronger then gokus base goku kainoken puts him fast and stronger then vagita. Vagita full powerd gatlen gun is weaker then gokus x4 kanioken with kamahmaha and we will never know if the oozaru was stronger then kaniken x4 (it most deffenily was) b/c goku was so worn down a pat on the back hurt him
guest 91 wrote:
i dont get this vs form the SAGA IS SELF EXPANITORY vegita base is stronger then gokus base goku kainoken puts him fast and stronger then vagita. Vagita full powerd gatlen gun is weaker then gokus x4 kanioken with kamahmaha and we will never know if the oozaru was stronger then kaniken x4 (it most deffenily was) b/c goku was so worn down a pat on the back hurt him
calm down. if you don’t like it, then GTFO
your ignorant dont quote me again
Don’t tell me what to do. You are not my mother. Call me ignorant if you want, but it will not help you in this debate. I will say it once more. If you don’t like it, then GTFO. It is plain and simple for someone like you to understand.
guest 91 wrote:
i dont get this vs form the SAGA IS SELF EXPANITORY vegita base is stronger then gokus base goku kainoken puts him fast and stronger then vagita. Vagita full powerd gatlen gun is weaker then gokus x4 kanioken with kamahmaha and we will never know if the oozaru was stronger then kaniken x4 (it most deffenily was) b/c goku was so worn down a pat on the back hurt him
calm down. if you don’t like it, then GTFO
your ignorant dont quote me again
Don’t tell me what to do. You are not my mother. Call me ignorant if you want, but it will not help you in this debate. I will say it once more. If you don’t like it, then GTFO. It is plain and simple for someone like you to understand.
again your ignorant and dont quote me agian if you dont like it then GTFO. it is plain and simple for someone like you to understand. Now agian the show is self explanitory Vagita even admits it Goku can beat him
guest 91 wrote:
i dont get this vs form the SAGA IS SELF EXPANITORY vegita base is stronger then gokus base goku kainoken puts him fast and stronger then vagita. Vagita full powerd gatlen gun is weaker then gokus x4 kanioken with kamahmaha and we will never know if the oozaru was stronger then kaniken x4 (it most deffenily was) b/c goku was so worn down a pat on the back hurt him
calm down. if you don’t like it, then GTFO
your ignorant dont quote me again
Don’t tell me what to do. You are not my mother. Call me ignorant if you want, but it will not help you in this debate. I will say it once more. If you don’t like it, then GTFO. It is plain and simple for someone like you to understand.
again your ignorant and dont quote me agian if you dont like it then GTFO. it is plain and simple for someone like you to understand. Now agian the show is self explanitory Vagita even admits it Goku can beat him
Vegeta wins this battle. It is their first one. No ssj forms at all. And I will say it again. Don’t like it, GTFO. And I will quote you as many times as I want. There is nothing you can do about it.
guest 91 wrote:
i dont get this vs form the SAGA IS SELF EXPANITORY vegita base is stronger then gokus base goku kainoken puts him fast and stronger then vagita. Vagita full powerd gatlen gun is weaker then gokus x4 kanioken with kamahmaha and we will never know if the oozaru was stronger then kaniken x4 (it most deffenily was) b/c goku was so worn down a pat on the back hurt him
calm down. if you don’t like it, then GTFO
your ignorant dont quote me again
Don’t tell me what to do. You are not my mother. Call me ignorant if you want, but it will not help you in this debate. I will say it once more. If you don’t like it, then GTFO. It is plain and simple for someone like you to understand.
again your ignorant and dont quote me agian if you dont like it then GTFO. it is plain and simple for someone like you to understand. Now agian the show is self explanitory Vagita even admits it Goku can beat him
Vegeta wins this battle. It is their first one. No ssj forms at all. And I will say it again. Don’t like it, GTFO. And I will quote you as many times as I want. There is nothing you can do about it.
shure there is i just ignore everything you ever type or debate with someone on every topic your on so that on one sees your comments and Vageta cannot beat goku does the show movies manga not show that enuff do they need to stress that for you more does vagita need to take half an episode again saying why goku is better then he is(this doesnt need to be in magna) does the creator need to write you a letter
um, wrong, because thsi could be oozaro goku vs oozaro vegeta..
and then, if goku somehow comes to snenses in monkey form( ( after db, the next time he does, GT, he finally controls it, as a super saiyan ape, burt still, this would then be the first time adutl goku does it, i think, but if he controls it, normal oozaro goku will wil that fight
guest 91 wrote:
i dont get this vs form the SAGA IS SELF EXPANITORY vegita base is stronger then gokus base goku kainoken puts him fast and stronger then vagita. Vagita full powerd gatlen gun is weaker then gokus x4 kanioken with kamahmaha and we will never know if the oozaru was stronger then kaniken x4 (it most deffenily was) b/c goku was so worn down a pat on the back hurt him
calm down. if you don’t like it, then GTFO
your ignorant dont quote me again
Don’t tell me what to do. You are not my mother. Call me ignorant if you want, but it will not help you in this debate. I will say it once more. If you don’t like it, then GTFO. It is plain and simple for someone like you to understand.
again your ignorant and dont quote me agian if you dont like it then GTFO. it is plain and simple for someone like you to understand. Now agian the show is self explanitory Vagita even admits it Goku can beat him
Vegeta wins this battle. It is their first one. No ssj forms at all. And I will say it again. Don’t like it, GTFO. And I will quote you as many times as I want. There is nothing you can do about it.
shure there is i just ignore everything you ever type or debate with someone on every topic your on so that on one sees your comments and Vageta cannot beat goku does the show movies manga not show that enuff do they need to stress that for you more does vagita need to take half an episode again saying why goku is better then he is(this doesnt need to be in magna) does the creator need to write you a letter
I think he needs to write you one because you keep referring to when Goku was fighting Kid Buu. I am reffering to when they first met. And it is not Vageta, it is Vegeta.
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