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Life--How Did It Get Here? By Evolution or By Creation?

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And for the record, whales didn’t evolve from rodents. If you took a few minutes out of your life to watch the video you would have known that.
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evolution is how life turned into what we see around us. Not how life started. That’s biogenesis.

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11 Apr 2008 09:59 pm
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Atresac wrote: evolution is how life turned into what we see around us. Not how life started. That’s biogenesis.

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How do you know about Biogenesis?
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biogenesis is how life started. I know nothing about that, I just know evolution and biogenesis are two different things that people need to understand.
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Atresac wrote: biogenesis is how life started. I know nothing about that, I just know evolution and biogenesis are two different things that people need to understand.

But they hate learning.
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Life started by accident. There was no director of its creation. Simply the world started off after the “big bang”. Where the medium for any of this to start off anyways came from, well I don’t know and no one will ever know. But after that occurences created the Earth which was a fiery hellhole to start off with. The conditions allowed amino acids to be created, the building blocks of life. Soon through more process pre-cells were created which soon evolved into cells, which gave us our early bacteria. Over time these bacteria would evovle to best fit their environments. You’d see the breaks in the evolutionary chains, as the intermediate evolvees would die off today. And sooner or later you get to where we are today.

I just explained a very complicated process in the matter of a paragraph, but its all very interesting to study. Lots of facts to support it as well, but do note the science is changing all the time as we learn more things through intricate studies.

This is why I have more beliefs similar to evolution than creationism, cause their are concrete facts to support it.
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Zucas wrote: Life started by accident. There was no director of its creation. Simply the world started off after the “big bang”. Where the medium for any of this to start off anyways came from, well I don’t know and no one will ever know. But after that occurences created the Earth which was a fiery hellhole to start off with. The conditions allowed amino acids to be created, the building blocks of life. Soon through more process pre-cells were created which soon evolved into cells, which gave us our early bacteria. Over time these bacteria would evovle to best fit their environments. You’d see the breaks in the evolutionary chains, as the intermediate evolvees would die off today. And sooner or later you get to where we are today.

I just explained a very complicated process in the matter of a paragraph, but its all very interesting to study. Lots of facts to support it as well, but do note the science is changing all the time as we learn more things through intricate studies.

This is why I have more beliefs similar to evolution than creationism, cause their are concrete facts to support it.

I learned about that on TV scientist can create bubbles of organic matter, like empty cells.
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1indainfinite wrote:
Zucas wrote: Life started by accident. There was no director of its creation. Simply the world started off after the “big bang”. Where the medium for any of this to start off anyways came from, well I don’t know and no one will ever know. But after that occurences created the Earth which was a fiery hellhole to start off with. The conditions allowed amino acids to be created, the building blocks of life. Soon through more process pre-cells were created which soon evolved into cells, which gave us our early bacteria. Over time these bacteria would evovle to best fit their environments. You’d see the breaks in the evolutionary chains, as the intermediate evolvees would die off today. And sooner or later you get to where we are today.

I just explained a very complicated process in the matter of a paragraph, but its all very interesting to study. Lots of facts to support it as well, but do note the science is changing all the time as we learn more things through intricate studies.

This is why I have more beliefs similar to evolution than creationism, cause their are concrete facts to support it.

I learned about that on TV scientist can create bubbles of organic matter, like empty cells.


Yea Atresac gave the officail word for it, biogenesis. Which basically states under certain conditions, very similar to that of early Earth, scientists have been able to produce amino acids and “pre-cells” in labs, which shows that life could have well been started that way.
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Zucas wrote:
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Zucas wrote: Life started by accident. There was no director of its creation. Simply the world started off after the “big bang”. Where the medium for any of this to start off anyways came from, well I don’t know and no one will ever know. But after that occurences created the Earth which was a fiery hellhole to start off with. The conditions allowed amino acids to be created, the building blocks of life. Soon through more process pre-cells were created which soon evolved into cells, which gave us our early bacteria. Over time these bacteria would evovle to best fit their environments. You’d see the breaks in the evolutionary chains, as the intermediate evolvees would die off today. And sooner or later you get to where we are today.

I just explained a very complicated process in the matter of a paragraph, but its all very interesting to study. Lots of facts to support it as well, but do note the science is changing all the time as we learn more things through intricate studies.

This is why I have more beliefs similar to evolution than creationism, cause their are concrete facts to support it.

I learned about that on TV scientist can create bubbles of organic matter, like empty cells.


Yea Atresac gave the officail word for it, biogenesis. Which basically states under certain conditions, very similar to that of early Earth, scientists have been able to produce amino acids and “pre-cells” in labs, which shows that life could have well been started that way.

That’s why I’m working so hard in shcool so can learn more about it.Maybe play god for a bit
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Yes its all very interesting. I pretty much understand the concepts in evolution and biogenesis. However the Big Bang theory is way over my head. I’d need a lot more physics studies haha. No wonder the religious nuts always complain about it. They probably don’t understand it haha.
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Zucas wrote: Yes its all very interesting. I pretty much understand the concepts in evolution and biogenesis. However the Big Bang theory is way over my head. I’d need a lot more physics studies haha. No wonder the religious nuts always complain about it. They probably don’t understand it haha.

From my understanding, energy just started to expland and such. Well thats a basic understanding but..
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14 Apr 2008 01:51 pm
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To help answer this question there is a new movie that is or already in theaters by Bin Stine called “Expelled: No intelligence." and is really informative it sort of shows how we do not know how we acctualy got here and so on i think every one here needs to prob see it
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Do you realize how horrible that movie is? It’s not informative at all, it’s just a bunch of creationist propaganda. It got horrible reviews from everyone who isn’t already an ignorant creationist fundamentalist, and ignorant creationist fundamentalists are the only ones that this movie will truly appeal to. Not even FOX news likes it. That’s how biased it is. It’s so misinformed that it actually blamed the Holocaust on evolution. You have to wonder what the hell Ben Stein was thinking when he made this sloppy propagandistic and above all unscientific and untruthful “movie”.

And BTW, to correct Atresac it’s not biogenesis, it’s abiogenesis.
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ramunematt wrote: Do you realize how horrible that movie is? It’s not informative at all, it’s just a bunch of creationist propaganda. It got horrible reviews from everyone who isn’t already an ignorant creationist fundamentalist, and ignorant creationist fundamentalists are the only ones that this movie will truly appeal to. Not even FOX news likes it. That’s how biased it is. It’s so misinformed that it actually blamed the Holocaust on evolution. You have to wonder what the hell Ben Stein was thinking when he made this sloppy propagandistic and above all unscientific and untruthful “movie”.

And BTW, to correct Atresac it’s not biogenesis, it’s abiogenesis.


i dont know i havent seen it but i do know it asks the question of how did life happen in a non organic univers
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ramunematt wrote: Do you realize how horrible that movie is? It’s not informative at all, it’s just a bunch of creationist propaganda. It got horrible reviews from everyone who isn’t already an ignorant creationist fundamentalist, and ignorant creationist fundamentalists are the only ones that this movie will truly appeal to. Not even FOX news likes it. That’s how biased it is. It’s so misinformed that it actually blamed the Holocaust on evolution. You have to wonder what the hell Ben Stein was thinking when he made this sloppy propagandistic and above all unscientific and untruthful “movie”.

And BTW, to correct Atresac it’s not biogenesis, it’s abiogenesis.


i dont know i havent seen it but i do know it asks the question of how did life happen in a non organic univers

Abiogensis I believe.
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guest91 wrote:
ramunematt wrote: Do you realize how horrible that movie is? It’s not informative at all, it’s just a bunch of creationist propaganda. It got horrible reviews from everyone who isn’t already an ignorant creationist fundamentalist, and ignorant creationist fundamentalists are the only ones that this movie will truly appeal to. Not even FOX news likes it. That’s how biased it is. It’s so misinformed that it actually blamed the Holocaust on evolution. You have to wonder what the hell Ben Stein was thinking when he made this sloppy propagandistic and above all unscientific and untruthful “movie”.

And BTW, to correct Atresac it’s not biogenesis, it’s abiogenesis.


i dont know i havent seen it but i do know it asks the question of how did life happen in a non organic univers


Non-organic? What exactly do you mean by that?
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