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[Quote] #61
11 Mar 2008 09:26 pm
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Manchester Black wrote:
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B/C that means he has limits and Brolie does not Brolie gets stronger the longer he fights and after them

Power Cosmic has no limits.Surfer has been able to amp his strength to the point he can ko Hulk,move so fast he gets to places lightyears away from his current location,increase his durability to the point he can take blows from Hulk,blow up suns,create black holes,etc.


Your saying that he can become more powerful then his creator and Broly can oblisly blow up stars since he destroyed a galixy and to create a black hole that doesnt prove anything a balck hole is created by erxtremly dense matter from a old exploed giant stare your telling he takes matter and crunches it up untill its that dense so what dbz doesnt have black holes from what i have seen
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11 Mar 2008 09:29 pm
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Manchester Black wrote:
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B/C that means he has limits and Brolie does not Brolie gets stronger the longer he fights and after them

Power Cosmic has no limits.Surfer has been able to amp his strength to the point he can ko Hulk,move so fast he gets to places lightyears away from his current location,increase his durability to the point he can take blows from Hulk,blow up suns,create black holes,etc.
Exactly. He has literally moved across the universe in a few moments.

And the reason Galactus selects a Herald is so that he doesn’t have to expend even the smallest portion of his power searching for and traveling to planets. Galactus actually doesn’t like doing destroying billions of lives; he does it because it is his place in the universe, so he tries to stave it off as long as possible.
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11 Mar 2008 09:37 pm
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guest 91 wrote:
Your saying that he can become more powerful then his creator and Broly can oblisly blow up stars since he destroyed a galixy and to create a black hole that doesnt prove anything a balck hole is created by erxtremly dense matter from a old exploed giant stare your telling he takes matter and crunches it up untill its that dense so what dbz doesnt have black holes from what i have seen

Yes I’m saying that.However Galactus controls it so he can take it from Surfer if he tried.Ofcourse but can Broly destroy a sun.The mentioning of a black hole being created was because it shows the other abilities.
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11 Mar 2008 09:40 pm
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Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Broli ultimately killed by being sent into the Sun?
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11 Mar 2008 09:42 pm
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Acrosurge wrote: Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Broli ultimately killed by being sent into the Sun?

Yep pretty much.He was shot in there by a kamehameha from the combined might of Gohan,Goten and Goku(?).
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11 Mar 2008 09:46 pm
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So was it the Kamehameha that killed him, or the sun? Or a combination of the two?
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11 Mar 2008 09:48 pm
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Its kinda hard to tell.The kamehameha shot him into the sun.He appeared to be fine until he got in there.
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11 Mar 2008 09:52 pm
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Hrm. Either way, that seems to suggest that Broli’s durability is far less than Surfer’s, since Surfer can fly through a sun or even a super nova completely unharmed.
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11 Mar 2008 09:54 pm
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11 Mar 2008 10:00 pm
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Being able to go into the sun proves nothing in GT goku had to fight a shemron that could make himself as hot as the sun resisting that mutch heat is just an ability does not say anything its like saying the human torch is all powerfull and invincable becuase he can become as hot as the sun and is there a scan where ss becomes more powerful then galaxis
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11 Mar 2008 10:06 pm
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guest 91 wrote:
Being able to go into the sun proves nothing in GT goku had to fight a shemron that could make himself as hot as the sun

Fighting an enemy as hot as the sun and being IN the sun or two completely different things.

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resisting that mutch heat is just an ability does not say anything

What?Being able to go into the sun shows great durability.No one in DBZ is capable of surviving a trip to the sun.

guest 91 wrote:
its like saying the human torch is all powerfull and invincable becuase he can become as hot as the sun

Yet again making yourself as hot as the sun is different from actually being IN the sun.

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and is there a scan where ss becomes more powerful then galaxis

No because its not in his character to try to overthrow his master.
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11 Mar 2008 10:09 pm
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Being able to go into the sun proves nothing in GT goku had to fight a shemron that could make himself as hot as the sun

Fighting an enemy as hot as the sun and being IN the sun or two completely different things.

guest 91 wrote:
resisting that mutch heat is just an ability does not say anything

What?Being able to go into the sun shows great durability.No one in DBZ is capable of surviving a trip to the sun.

guest 91 wrote:
its like saying the human torch is all powerfull and invincable becuase he can become as hot as the sun

Yet again making yourself as hot as the sun is different from actually being IN the sun.

guest 91 wrote:
and is there a scan where ss becomes more powerful then galaxis

No because its not in his character to try to overthrow his master.


in DBZ yes it is the same they die from the heat nothing else if there is no scan of him increasing power greater then his master then he cannot do it and has limits
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11 Mar 2008 10:12 pm
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guest 91 wrote:
in DBZ yes it is the same they die from the heat nothing else

Thats a testimony of their low durability then.

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if there is no scan of him increasing power greater then his master then he cannot do it and has limits

False.Did you read what I said?Surfer isn’t the type to overthrow his master so he hasn’t tried.
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11 Mar 2008 10:25 pm
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in DBZ yes it is the same they die from the heat nothing else

Thats a testimony of their low durability then.

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if there is no scan of him increasing power greater then his master then he cannot do it and has limits

False.Did you read what I said?Surfer isn’t the type to overthrow his master so he hasn’t tried.


No it’s not a testimony of their low durabiliy jsut resistance to heat

and if there is not a scan of him doing it then your just assuming he can and trying to hide behide that he hasent tryed mabe he hasent tryed b/c one they havent lifted there hand and wrote ss multiplys his power greater then g’s another he just simply cannot do it simple as that
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11 Mar 2008 10:28 pm
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Broli died in the sun. Silver Surfer flies through stars and remains unaffected.

Who has the greater durability?

And for the record, the Surfer has turned on his master. But Galactus gave the Surfer his Power Cosmic and could take it away (and did) just as easily.
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11 Mar 2008 10:31 pm
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guest 91 wrote:
No it’s not a testimony of their low durabiliy jsut resistance to heat

If they can’t survive heat what makes you think they can survive inside the sun.

guest 91 wrote:
and if there is not a scan of him doing it then your just assuming he can and trying to hide behide that he hasent tryed mabe he hasent tryed b/c one they havent lifted there hand and wrote ss multiplys his power greater then g’s another he just simply cannot do it simple as that

I guess you just must be assuming alot of things about Brolly then?Surfer can multiply his powers so what are you talking about?Its okay for you to use a no limits fallancy for Brolly because apparently he gets stronger the longer he fights but when I mention Surfers natural power to power himself up its not true.
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11 Mar 2008 10:34 pm
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Manchester Black wrote: Its okay for you to use a no limits fallancy for Brolly because apparently he gets stronger the longer he fights but when I mention Surfers natural power to power himself up its not true.
Brolly must have limits, other wise he would not have died via a Kamehameha into the Sun.
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Last edited 11 Mar 2008 10:35 pm by Acrosurge
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11 Mar 2008 10:35 pm
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Manchester Black wrote:
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No it’s not a testimony of their low durabiliy jsut resistance to heat

If they can’t survive heat what makes you think they can survive inside the sun.

guest 91 wrote:
and if there is not a scan of him doing it then your just assuming he can and trying to hide behide that he hasent tryed mabe he hasent tryed b/c one they havent lifted there hand and wrote ss multiplys his power greater then g’s another he just simply cannot do it simple as that

I guess you just must be assuming alot of things about Brolly then?Surfer can multiply his powers so what are you talking about?Its okay for you to use a no limits fallancy for Brolly because apparently he gets stronger the longer he fights but when I mention Surfers natural power to power himself up its not true.


thats funny mabe b/c goku and vagita both have said the longer a sayin fights the stronger he gets and sayins get stronger after every fight and non of them have limits since they get sronger with ever fight and do not just stop and ok ss can power himself up does not mean he can keep doing that indefinilty meaning he has limits and how do you know how mutch he can power himself up by still no scan your just assuming
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11 Mar 2008 10:38 pm
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Again, Brolly’s saiyan heritage and potential did not protect him from the sun. He died in a stellar body that has been shown to do no damage to the Silver Surfer at all.
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11 Mar 2008 10:44 pm
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guest 91 wrote:
thats funny mabe b/c goku and vagita both have said the longer a sayin fights the stronger he gets and sayins get stronger after every fight

Gee and the power cosmic is said to the most powerful force in the universe

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and non of them have limits since they get sronger with ever fight and do not just stop

Great so your still using a no limits fallancy but when I use it its wrong or me being a fanboy.

guest 91 wrote:
and ok ss can power himself up does not mean he can keep doing that indefinilty meaning he has limits and how do you know how mutch he can power himself up by still no scan your just assuming

How do I know?He has gone from destroying a planet to destroying a blowing up a sun.He has gone from thing level strength to Hulk level strength.He and Thanos took on Odin and put up a decent fight.
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