| 08 Mar 2008 09:25 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,478 ONLINE | _hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
but goku was still a ssj then. maybe 13 was in the leagues of super trunks or something. so it only makes sense if goku couldnt even dent 13 body
yeah, but he was also in his normal form when he defeated 17. he couldn’t beat him in his ssj4 form.
here we go again. exploiting a weakness doeant make you stronger than your target. here the examples.
1.imperial at-at is a lot stronger than a cable, but the cable can destroy an at-at by exploiting its weakness.
2.if batman used a kryptonite on superman, does that make batman stronger than supes?
3.goku held raditz tail(raditz weakness was his tail) and raditz couldnt even defend himself, but we all know raditz was stronger than goku at the time.
i never exploited a weakness. rising to another level of power does not always give you an edge in battle. executing a powerful attack that hits the target at point blank range does like the dragon fist or the spirit bomb.
do you think 17 would just stand there when theres a fist coming at him? 17 was distracted by 18. goku used that chance to attack and exploited 17 weakness, that why goku won.
never said that either. 13 could just stand there and absorb his attacks, or just stand there and fire his S.S. Deadly Bomber
 | | | | 08 Mar 2008 09:28 pm |
Regular Rep: 4  Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 885 OFFLINE | NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
but goku was still a ssj then. maybe 13 was in the leagues of super trunks or something. so it only makes sense if goku couldnt even dent 13 body
yeah, but he was also in his normal form when he defeated 17. he couldn’t beat him in his ssj4 form.
here we go again. exploiting a weakness doeant make you stronger than your target. here the examples.
1.imperial at-at is a lot stronger than a cable, but the cable can destroy an at-at by exploiting its weakness.
2.if batman used a kryptonite on superman, does that make batman stronger than supes?
3.goku held raditz tail(raditz weakness was his tail) and raditz couldnt even defend himself, but we all know raditz was stronger than goku at the time.
i never exploited a weakness. rising to another level of power does not always give you an edge in battle. executing a powerful attack that hits the target at point blank range does like the dragon fist or the spirit bomb.
do you think 17 would just stand there when theres a fist coming at him? 17 was distracted by 18. goku used that chance to attack and exploited 17 weakness, that why goku won.
never said that either. 13 could just stand there and absorb his attacks, or just stand there and fire his S.S. Deadly Bomber
absorb? 13 cant absorb ki blasts. and what makes you think an ss deadly bomber will hurt 17? 17 could absorb it you know.
 | | | 08 Mar 2008 09:31 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,478 ONLINE | _hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
but goku was still a ssj then. maybe 13 was in the leagues of super trunks or something. so it only makes sense if goku couldnt even dent 13 body
yeah, but he was also in his normal form when he defeated 17. he couldn’t beat him in his ssj4 form.
here we go again. exploiting a weakness doeant make you stronger than your target. here the examples.
1.imperial at-at is a lot stronger than a cable, but the cable can destroy an at-at by exploiting its weakness.
2.if batman used a kryptonite on superman, does that make batman stronger than supes?
3.goku held raditz tail(raditz weakness was his tail) and raditz couldnt even defend himself, but we all know raditz was stronger than goku at the time.
i never exploited a weakness. rising to another level of power does not always give you an edge in battle. executing a powerful attack that hits the target at point blank range does like the dragon fist or the spirit bomb.
do you think 17 would just stand there when theres a fist coming at him? 17 was distracted by 18. goku used that chance to attack and exploited 17 weakness, that why goku won.
never said that either. 13 could just stand there and absorb his attacks, or just stand there and fire his S.S. Deadly Bomber
absorb? 13 cant absorb ki blasts. and what makes you think an ss deadly bomber will hurt 17? 17 could absorb it you know.
he could absorb it, but how are you so sure that 13 can’t absorb attacks? he is an android.
| | | 08 Mar 2008 09:33 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 10 Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,404 OFFLINE | NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
but goku was still a ssj then. maybe 13 was in the leagues of super trunks or something. so it only makes sense if goku couldnt even dent 13 body
yeah, but he was also in his normal form when he defeated 17. he couldn’t beat him in his ssj4 form.
here we go again. exploiting a weakness doeant make you stronger than your target. here the examples.
1.imperial at-at is a lot stronger than a cable, but the cable can destroy an at-at by exploiting its weakness.
2.if batman used a kryptonite on superman, does that make batman stronger than supes?
3.goku held raditz tail(raditz weakness was his tail) and raditz couldnt even defend himself, but we all know raditz was stronger than goku at the time.
i never exploited a weakness. rising to another level of power does not always give you an edge in battle. executing a powerful attack that hits the target at point blank range does like the dragon fist or the spirit bomb.
do you think 17 would just stand there when theres a fist coming at him? 17 was distracted by 18. goku used that chance to attack and exploited 17 weakness, that why goku won.
never said that either. 13 could just stand there and absorb his attacks, or just stand there and fire his S.S. Deadly Bomber
absorb? 13 cant absorb ki blasts. and what makes you think an ss deadly bomber will hurt 17? 17 could absorb it you know.
he could absorb it, but how are you so sure that 13 can’t absorb attacks? he is an android.
Not the right type though | | | 08 Mar 2008 09:38 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,478 ONLINE | RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
but goku was still a ssj then. maybe 13 was in the leagues of super trunks or something. so it only makes sense if goku couldnt even dent 13 body
yeah, but he was also in his normal form when he defeated 17. he couldn’t beat him in his ssj4 form.
here we go again. exploiting a weakness doeant make you stronger than your target. here the examples.
1.imperial at-at is a lot stronger than a cable, but the cable can destroy an at-at by exploiting its weakness.
2.if batman used a kryptonite on superman, does that make batman stronger than supes?
3.goku held raditz tail(raditz weakness was his tail) and raditz couldnt even defend himself, but we all know raditz was stronger than goku at the time.
i never exploited a weakness. rising to another level of power does not always give you an edge in battle. executing a powerful attack that hits the target at point blank range does like the dragon fist or the spirit bomb.
do you think 17 would just stand there when theres a fist coming at him? 17 was distracted by 18. goku used that chance to attack and exploited 17 weakness, that why goku won.
never said that either. 13 could just stand there and absorb his attacks, or just stand there and fire his S.S. Deadly Bomber
absorb? 13 cant absorb ki blasts. and what makes you think an ss deadly bomber will hurt 17? 17 could absorb it you know.
he could absorb it, but how are you so sure that 13 can’t absorb attacks? he is an android.
Not the right type though
Maybe, but for a guy that can take attacks from three super saiyans without any damage at all, he is hard to beat.
| | | 08 Mar 2008 09:39 pm |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 885 OFFLINE | NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
but goku was still a ssj then. maybe 13 was in the leagues of super trunks or something. so it only makes sense if goku couldnt even dent 13 body
yeah, but he was also in his normal form when he defeated 17. he couldn’t beat him in his ssj4 form.
here we go again. exploiting a weakness doeant make you stronger than your target. here the examples.
1.imperial at-at is a lot stronger than a cable, but the cable can destroy an at-at by exploiting its weakness.
2.if batman used a kryptonite on superman, does that make batman stronger than supes?
3.goku held raditz tail(raditz weakness was his tail) and raditz couldnt even defend himself, but we all know raditz was stronger than goku at the time.
i never exploited a weakness. rising to another level of power does not always give you an edge in battle. executing a powerful attack that hits the target at point blank range does like the dragon fist or the spirit bomb.
do you think 17 would just stand there when theres a fist coming at him? 17 was distracted by 18. goku used that chance to attack and exploited 17 weakness, that why goku won.
never said that either. 13 could just stand there and absorb his attacks, or just stand there and fire his S.S. Deadly Bomber
absorb? 13 cant absorb ki blasts. and what makes you think an ss deadly bomber will hurt 17? 17 could absorb it you know.
he could absorb it, but how are you so sure that 13 can’t absorb attacks? he is an android.
not all androids can absorb attacks. 17,18,16 and 8 couldn’t do it.
android 13 is the type of android that has the ability to absorb the other two androids parts to make himself stronger.
you see, there are a lot of different types of androids, there are the absorbing ones,(19, 20, super 17) the non absorbing types,(17,18,16) bio android types(cell) and the “sacrificial” ones(13 and his two friends) in order for 13 to become stronger, the other two androids has to be destroyed first. maybe i’ll just call 13 a “cannibal” type android.LOL
| | | 08 Mar 2008 09:42 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,478 ONLINE | _hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
but goku was still a ssj then. maybe 13 was in the leagues of super trunks or something. so it only makes sense if goku couldnt even dent 13 body
yeah, but he was also in his normal form when he defeated 17. he couldn’t beat him in his ssj4 form.
here we go again. exploiting a weakness doeant make you stronger than your target. here the examples.
1.imperial at-at is a lot stronger than a cable, but the cable can destroy an at-at by exploiting its weakness.
2.if batman used a kryptonite on superman, does that make batman stronger than supes?
3.goku held raditz tail(raditz weakness was his tail) and raditz couldnt even defend himself, but we all know raditz was stronger than goku at the time.
i never exploited a weakness. rising to another level of power does not always give you an edge in battle. executing a powerful attack that hits the target at point blank range does like the dragon fist or the spirit bomb.
do you think 17 would just stand there when theres a fist coming at him? 17 was distracted by 18. goku used that chance to attack and exploited 17 weakness, that why goku won.
never said that either. 13 could just stand there and absorb his attacks, or just stand there and fire his S.S. Deadly Bomber
absorb? 13 cant absorb ki blasts. and what makes you think an ss deadly bomber will hurt 17? 17 could absorb it you know.
he could absorb it, but how are you so sure that 13 can’t absorb attacks? he is an android.
not all androids can absorb attacks. 17,18,16 and 8 couldn’t do it.
android 13 is the type of android that has the ability to absorb the other two androids parts to make himself stronger.
you see, there are a lot of different types of androids, there are the absorbing ones,(19, 20, super 17) the non absorbing types,(17,18,16) bio android types(cell) and the “sacrificial” ones(13 and his two friends) in order for 13 to become stronger, the other two androids has to be destroyed first. maybe i’ll just call 13 a “cannibal” type android.LOL
i remember now, my mistake. kept thinking about 20 and 19 absorbing ki from the z fighters. he is kind of like broly, but broly is stronger. you would have to pull off some giant attack like the spirit bomb to defeat him. or do what goku did, become one with his spirit bomb.
| | | 08 Mar 2008 09:42 pm |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 885 OFFLINE | NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
but goku was still a ssj then. maybe 13 was in the leagues of super trunks or something. so it only makes sense if goku couldnt even dent 13 body
yeah, but he was also in his normal form when he defeated 17. he couldn’t beat him in his ssj4 form.
here we go again. exploiting a weakness doeant make you stronger than your target. here the examples.
1.imperial at-at is a lot stronger than a cable, but the cable can destroy an at-at by exploiting its weakness.
2.if batman used a kryptonite on superman, does that make batman stronger than supes?
3.goku held raditz tail(raditz weakness was his tail) and raditz couldnt even defend himself, but we all know raditz was stronger than goku at the time.
i never exploited a weakness. rising to another level of power does not always give you an edge in battle. executing a powerful attack that hits the target at point blank range does like the dragon fist or the spirit bomb.
do you think 17 would just stand there when theres a fist coming at him? 17 was distracted by 18. goku used that chance to attack and exploited 17 weakness, that why goku won.
never said that either. 13 could just stand there and absorb his attacks, or just stand there and fire his S.S. Deadly Bomber
absorb? 13 cant absorb ki blasts. and what makes you think an ss deadly bomber will hurt 17? 17 could absorb it you know.
he could absorb it, but how are you so sure that 13 can’t absorb attacks? he is an android.
Not the right type though
Maybe, but for a guy that can take attacks from three super saiyans without any damage at all, he is hard to beat.
and to take hits from a ssj4, well, lets just say, 17 can take hits from 3 ssj too.
| | | 08 Mar 2008 09:43 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,478 ONLINE | _hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
but goku was still a ssj then. maybe 13 was in the leagues of super trunks or something. so it only makes sense if goku couldnt even dent 13 body
yeah, but he was also in his normal form when he defeated 17. he couldn’t beat him in his ssj4 form.
here we go again. exploiting a weakness doeant make you stronger than your target. here the examples.
1.imperial at-at is a lot stronger than a cable, but the cable can destroy an at-at by exploiting its weakness.
2.if batman used a kryptonite on superman, does that make batman stronger than supes?
3.goku held raditz tail(raditz weakness was his tail) and raditz couldnt even defend himself, but we all know raditz was stronger than goku at the time.
i never exploited a weakness. rising to another level of power does not always give you an edge in battle. executing a powerful attack that hits the target at point blank range does like the dragon fist or the spirit bomb.
do you think 17 would just stand there when theres a fist coming at him? 17 was distracted by 18. goku used that chance to attack and exploited 17 weakness, that why goku won.
never said that either. 13 could just stand there and absorb his attacks, or just stand there and fire his S.S. Deadly Bomber
absorb? 13 cant absorb ki blasts. and what makes you think an ss deadly bomber will hurt 17? 17 could absorb it you know.
he could absorb it, but how are you so sure that 13 can’t absorb attacks? he is an android.
Not the right type though
Maybe, but for a guy that can take attacks from three super saiyans without any damage at all, he is hard to beat.
and to take hits from a ssj4, well, lets just say, 17 can take hits from 3 ssj too.
that is true.
| | | 08 Mar 2008 09:47 pm |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 885 OFFLINE | NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
but goku was still a ssj then. maybe 13 was in the leagues of super trunks or something. so it only makes sense if goku couldnt even dent 13 body
yeah, but he was also in his normal form when he defeated 17. he couldn’t beat him in his ssj4 form.
here we go again. exploiting a weakness doeant make you stronger than your target. here the examples.
1.imperial at-at is a lot stronger than a cable, but the cable can destroy an at-at by exploiting its weakness.
2.if batman used a kryptonite on superman, does that make batman stronger than supes?
3.goku held raditz tail(raditz weakness was his tail) and raditz couldnt even defend himself, but we all know raditz was stronger than goku at the time.
i never exploited a weakness. rising to another level of power does not always give you an edge in battle. executing a powerful attack that hits the target at point blank range does like the dragon fist or the spirit bomb.
do you think 17 would just stand there when theres a fist coming at him? 17 was distracted by 18. goku used that chance to attack and exploited 17 weakness, that why goku won.
never said that either. 13 could just stand there and absorb his attacks, or just stand there and fire his S.S. Deadly Bomber
absorb? 13 cant absorb ki blasts. and what makes you think an ss deadly bomber will hurt 17? 17 could absorb it you know.
he could absorb it, but how are you so sure that 13 can’t absorb attacks? he is an android.
not all androids can absorb attacks. 17,18,16 and 8 couldn’t do it.
android 13 is the type of android that has the ability to absorb the other two androids parts to make himself stronger.
you see, there are a lot of different types of androids, there are the absorbing ones,(19, 20, super 17) the non absorbing types,(17,18,16) bio android types(cell) and the “sacrificial” ones(13 and his two friends) in order for 13 to become stronger, the other two androids has to be destroyed first. maybe i’ll just call 13 a “cannibal” type android.LOL
i remember now, my mistake. kept thinking about 20 and 19 absorbing ki from the z fighters. he is kind of like broly, but broly is stronger. you would have to pull off some giant attack like the spirit bomb to defeat him. or do what goku did, become one with his spirit bomb.
well, maybe not. its not about the size of the blast, but its power. remember kid buus attack(not the vanishing ball attack) that vegeta deflected? kid buus blast was just about the size of a basketball, but it has the power to destroy earth.
| | | 08 Mar 2008 09:49 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,478 ONLINE | _hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
but goku was still a ssj then. maybe 13 was in the leagues of super trunks or something. so it only makes sense if goku couldnt even dent 13 body
yeah, but he was also in his normal form when he defeated 17. he couldn’t beat him in his ssj4 form.
here we go again. exploiting a weakness doeant make you stronger than your target. here the examples.
1.imperial at-at is a lot stronger than a cable, but the cable can destroy an at-at by exploiting its weakness.
2.if batman used a kryptonite on superman, does that make batman stronger than supes?
3.goku held raditz tail(raditz weakness was his tail) and raditz couldnt even defend himself, but we all know raditz was stronger than goku at the time.
i never exploited a weakness. rising to another level of power does not always give you an edge in battle. executing a powerful attack that hits the target at point blank range does like the dragon fist or the spirit bomb.
do you think 17 would just stand there when theres a fist coming at him? 17 was distracted by 18. goku used that chance to attack and exploited 17 weakness, that why goku won.
never said that either. 13 could just stand there and absorb his attacks, or just stand there and fire his S.S. Deadly Bomber
absorb? 13 cant absorb ki blasts. and what makes you think an ss deadly bomber will hurt 17? 17 could absorb it you know.
he could absorb it, but how are you so sure that 13 can’t absorb attacks? he is an android.
not all androids can absorb attacks. 17,18,16 and 8 couldn’t do it.
android 13 is the type of android that has the ability to absorb the other two androids parts to make himself stronger.
you see, there are a lot of different types of androids, there are the absorbing ones,(19, 20, super 17) the non absorbing types,(17,18,16) bio android types(cell) and the “sacrificial” ones(13 and his two friends) in order for 13 to become stronger, the other two androids has to be destroyed first. maybe i’ll just call 13 a “cannibal” type android.LOL
i remember now, my mistake. kept thinking about 20 and 19 absorbing ki from the z fighters. he is kind of like broly, but broly is stronger. you would have to pull off some giant attack like the spirit bomb to defeat him. or do what goku did, become one with his spirit bomb.
well, maybe not. its not about the size of the blast, but its power. remember kid buus attack(not the vanishing ball attack) that vegeta deflected? kid buus blast was just about the size of a basketball, but it has the power to destroy earth.
that’s what i was trying to imply. but that is right.
| | | 08 Mar 2008 09:51 pm |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 885 OFFLINE | NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
but goku was still a ssj then. maybe 13 was in the leagues of super trunks or something. so it only makes sense if goku couldnt even dent 13 body
yeah, but he was also in his normal form when he defeated 17. he couldn’t beat him in his ssj4 form.
here we go again. exploiting a weakness doeant make you stronger than your target. here the examples.
1.imperial at-at is a lot stronger than a cable, but the cable can destroy an at-at by exploiting its weakness.
2.if batman used a kryptonite on superman, does that make batman stronger than supes?
3.goku held raditz tail(raditz weakness was his tail) and raditz couldnt even defend himself, but we all know raditz was stronger than goku at the time.
i never exploited a weakness. rising to another level of power does not always give you an edge in battle. executing a powerful attack that hits the target at point blank range does like the dragon fist or the spirit bomb.
do you think 17 would just stand there when theres a fist coming at him? 17 was distracted by 18. goku used that chance to attack and exploited 17 weakness, that why goku won.
never said that either. 13 could just stand there and absorb his attacks, or just stand there and fire his S.S. Deadly Bomber
absorb? 13 cant absorb ki blasts. and what makes you think an ss deadly bomber will hurt 17? 17 could absorb it you know.
he could absorb it, but how are you so sure that 13 can’t absorb attacks? he is an android.
not all androids can absorb attacks. 17,18,16 and 8 couldn’t do it.
android 13 is the type of android that has the ability to absorb the other two androids parts to make himself stronger.
you see, there are a lot of different types of androids, there are the absorbing ones,(19, 20, super 17) the non absorbing types,(17,18,16) bio android types(cell) and the “sacrificial” ones(13 and his two friends) in order for 13 to become stronger, the other two androids has to be destroyed first. maybe i’ll just call 13 a “cannibal” type android.LOL
i remember now, my mistake. kept thinking about 20 and 19 absorbing ki from the z fighters. he is kind of like broly, but broly is stronger. you would have to pull off some giant attack like the spirit bomb to defeat him. or do what goku did, become one with his spirit bomb.
well, maybe not. its not about the size of the blast, but its power. remember kid buus attack(not the vanishing ball attack) that vegeta deflected? kid buus blast was just about the size of a basketball, but it has the power to destroy earth.
that’s what i was trying to imply. but that is right.
you said “you would have to pull off some giant attack like the spirit bomb to defeat him." so i thought youre saying it has to be a giant blast to kill 13.
| | | 08 Mar 2008 09:52 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,478 ONLINE | _hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
but goku was still a ssj then. maybe 13 was in the leagues of super trunks or something. so it only makes sense if goku couldnt even dent 13 body
yeah, but he was also in his normal form when he defeated 17. he couldn’t beat him in his ssj4 form.
here we go again. exploiting a weakness doeant make you stronger than your target. here the examples.
1.imperial at-at is a lot stronger than a cable, but the cable can destroy an at-at by exploiting its weakness.
2.if batman used a kryptonite on superman, does that make batman stronger than supes?
3.goku held raditz tail(raditz weakness was his tail) and raditz couldnt even defend himself, but we all know raditz was stronger than goku at the time.
i never exploited a weakness. rising to another level of power does not always give you an edge in battle. executing a powerful attack that hits the target at point blank range does like the dragon fist or the spirit bomb.
do you think 17 would just stand there when theres a fist coming at him? 17 was distracted by 18. goku used that chance to attack and exploited 17 weakness, that why goku won.
never said that either. 13 could just stand there and absorb his attacks, or just stand there and fire his S.S. Deadly Bomber
absorb? 13 cant absorb ki blasts. and what makes you think an ss deadly bomber will hurt 17? 17 could absorb it you know.
he could absorb it, but how are you so sure that 13 can’t absorb attacks? he is an android.
not all androids can absorb attacks. 17,18,16 and 8 couldn’t do it.
android 13 is the type of android that has the ability to absorb the other two androids parts to make himself stronger.
you see, there are a lot of different types of androids, there are the absorbing ones,(19, 20, super 17) the non absorbing types,(17,18,16) bio android types(cell) and the “sacrificial” ones(13 and his two friends) in order for 13 to become stronger, the other two androids has to be destroyed first. maybe i’ll just call 13 a “cannibal” type android.LOL
i remember now, my mistake. kept thinking about 20 and 19 absorbing ki from the z fighters. he is kind of like broly, but broly is stronger. you would have to pull off some giant attack like the spirit bomb to defeat him. or do what goku did, become one with his spirit bomb.
well, maybe not. its not about the size of the blast, but its power. remember kid buus attack(not the vanishing ball attack) that vegeta deflected? kid buus blast was just about the size of a basketball, but it has the power to destroy earth.
that’s what i was trying to imply. but that is right.
you said “you would have to pull off some giant attack like the spirit bomb to defeat him." so i thought youre saying it has to be a giant blast to kill 13.
not in size but in power like you said.
| | | 08 Mar 2008 09:53 pm |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 885 OFFLINE | well, anyway, 13 has nothing on 17. ---
| | | 08 Mar 2008 09:55 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,478 ONLINE | _hells_angel_ wrote:
well, anyway, 13 has nothing on 17.
besides being almost invicible to damage? and i know, 17 is also almost invincible since he can absorb attacks
| | | 08 Mar 2008 09:58 pm |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 885 OFFLINE | NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
well, anyway, 13 has nothing on 17.
besides being almost invicible to damage? and i know, 17 is also almost invincible since he can absorb attacks
13 is only seemingly invincible to damage. why? well,, 13 was fighting a bunch of guys that are weaker than him.
think of it as, 17 vs vegeta and the others at ssj2 forms.(they actually showed this) and well, i think you know what happened.
| | | 08 Mar 2008 10:00 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,478 ONLINE | _hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
well, anyway, 13 has nothing on 17.
besides being almost invicible to damage? and i know, 17 is also almost invincible since he can absorb attacks
13 is only seemingly invincible to damage. why? well,, 13 was fighting a bunch of guys that are weaker than him.
think of it as, 17 vs vegeta and the others at ssj2 forms.(they actually showed this) and well, i think you know what happened.
yeah, i remember. but 17 was also fighting 17 who was stronger than goku at the time.
| | | 08 Mar 2008 10:03 pm |
Regular Rep: 4Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 885 OFFLINE | NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
well, anyway, 13 has nothing on 17.
besides being almost invicible to damage? and i know, 17 is also almost invincible since he can absorb attacks
13 is only seemingly invincible to damage. why? well,, 13 was fighting a bunch of guys that are weaker than him.
think of it as, 17 vs vegeta and the others at ssj2 forms.(they actually showed this) and well, i think you know what happened.
yeah, i remember. but 17 was also fighting 17 who was stronger than goku at the time.
yeah, thats true, but the point still remains, 13 done something, 17 did it better.
| | | 08 Mar 2008 10:04 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,478 ONLINE | _hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
well, anyway, 13 has nothing on 17.
besides being almost invicible to damage? and i know, 17 is also almost invincible since he can absorb attacks
13 is only seemingly invincible to damage. why? well,, 13 was fighting a bunch of guys that are weaker than him.
think of it as, 17 vs vegeta and the others at ssj2 forms.(they actually showed this) and well, i think you know what happened.
yeah, i remember. but 17 was also fighting 17 who was stronger than goku at the time.
yeah, thats true, but the point still remains, 13 done something, 17 did it better.
true.
| | | 08 Mar 2008 10:06 pm |
Regular Rep: 7 Joined: 03 Mar 2008 Posts: 154 OFFLINE | Super 17 wins, he’s WAY more powerful, and fought a SS4 late in the series, and Super 13 only took 3 SS1’s early in the series. ---
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