| 09 Apr 2008 07:56 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 24  Joined: 23 Dec 2007 Posts: 1,944 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
Neither Darwin nor any other evolutionist has ever called autism a species. Genetic differences does not automatically mean different species. That would be like saying a human with blue eyes is a different species from a human with brown eyes.
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By mutating they can be called evolution or mutant... so they mutant...???
shouldn’t you be hating on the u.s. somewhere?
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The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 47  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,026 OFFLINE | I never hate someone or hating without reason... autism is mutating from us and by us are you considering they mutant...??? for me they can be healed by some method or something... evolution theory say that if you mutating and try adapting to something and somewhere so you can be called evolution... and the US... oh yes... they always make Islam look bad killing civilians but they never consider they terrorist but we never doing that... How many people has been killed by Ariel Sharon in Shatilla...???
keep that in mind...
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“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster — | | | 09 Apr 2008 08:02 pm |
~ Vi Veri ~ Rep: 65  Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 32,578 ONLINE | Those with autism are not mutants.
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I by the power of Truth, while living, have conquered the Universe | | | 09 Apr 2008 08:06 pm |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 47  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,026 OFFLINE | so what are they...??? their genetic mutating afterall...???
*I’m talking in evolution theory not in humanity theory*
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“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster — | | | 09 Apr 2008 08:11 pm |
Dr. Matt Rep: 49  Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,531 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
Neither Darwin nor any other evolutionist has ever called autism a species. Genetic differences does not automatically mean different species. That would be like saying a human with blue eyes is a different species from a human with brown eyes.
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By mutating they can be called evolution or mutant... so they mutant...???
Evolution and mutation aren’t the same thing. Evolution has to happen over several generations.
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So what kind of magazines do you read?
Um... the ones that are in front of me?
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Dr. Matt Rep: 49  Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,531 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
so what are they...??? their genetic mutating afterall...???
*I’m talking in evolution theory not in humanity theory*
Here’s an idea: you don’t know what your talking about.
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Sarah Palin wrote:
Interviewer wrote:
So what kind of magazines do you read?
Um... the ones that are in front of me?
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The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 47  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,026 OFFLINE | Evolution and mutation aren’t the same thing. Evolution has to happen over several generations.
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Which mean they are mutant... their genetic is mutating right...???
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Here’s an idea: you don’t know what your talking about.
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eat your own words...
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“Great new ideas usually come from very small teams... don’t give up so easily." — John Kaster — | | | 25 Jun 2008 02:08 am |
Mom of Auti Guest | My daughter is Autistic and I began wondering a similar theory myself, after MONTHS of research on autism. I wouldn’t go as far to say that I believe Itachi’s format of displaying the theory, but I do feel Autism is somewhat of an evolution of humans.
Consider some facts: ADHD ran rampant for a decade and many of the traits of ADHD are actually seen in ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder) and many children on the “spectrum” are dx’d ADHD and ASD, plus SPD (Sensory Processing Disorder). ADHD is really the mild form of Autism and I feel all the aforementioned conditions are interrelated.
Nobody knows what causes ASD, but what we do know is that it so far has not been proven to be genetic, so the offensive comment from 1indainfinite couldn’t be further from the truth! In fact, many professionals feel genetics play a small role, if any, as they cannot isolate a gene responsible. They have found genes responsible for similar trait conditions, like Fragile X and Rhetts, but not AUTISM. However, almost all folks feel something environmental is at minimum a trigger, if not the cause! Whether vaccinations, pesticides, TELEVISION, WiFi, etc. are the cause or all is yet and may never be determined.
What I know as a parent: I have a 2 year old that can functionally use a computer and almost all electronic communication items after one or two times of being taught! In fact, many non-verbal autistics are provided electronic speech devices to unlock a highly intelligent child into the World! It’s amazing to witness!
Given the above, I often wonder if ASD is the next evolution of mankind? Given our World and how it is now functioning we will eventually all be isolated within out homes and barricaded from our community anyways! Look at the time spent with in-home entertainment and how we now communicate more with technology then any other method...email, telephones, webcams, virtual Worlds and gaming, etc.
Now, what is the ONE common denominator of autistic kids? They are visually taught, function best with electronics, and often use electronics to communicate b/c their areas of deficit are in SOCIAL and COMMUNICATION SKILLS! In fact, that is how ADHD and Autism are differentiated...Social and communication Skills! My dd is 2 y/o and knows her numbers to 15, alphabet, and is now starting to count in Spanish! She learned this ALL through her TV programs! In fact, when I attempted to teach them 1:1 she wouldn’t grasp the concept. Put it on TV and it becomes functional! All other skills taught she has processing difficulties with, EXCEPT those from TV! Something in the Autistic brain is switched to have input and stimulation in a different format! The wires are crossed!
In the very near future you will find almost all jobs being done by telecommuting due to gas prices and if the energy crisis continues in this downward spiral, society will not be able to afford to socialize like we do now! Due to our cultural evolution to date, it’s highly unlikely that society will regress back to the Western days.
So, provided the above our society is headed towards a non-physical community that communicates primarily electronically, if not 100%. So, who would survive in this community? The Autistics!
I wish more people would stop approaching Autism as a disability and as though something is majorily wrong, but that these folks are just different! Maybe it’s us that need to adapt and not them! Maybe their form of communication would be more productive if we tried to learn it and help them adapt it into their environment, instead of forcing our ways on them!
Just late night thoughts of a Mother trying to make sense of a childs needs!
| | | 25 Jun 2008 03:49 am |
DHAOS LASER! Rep: 47  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 10,756 OFFLINE | Mom of Auti wrote:
My daughter is Autistic and I began wondering a similar theory myself, after MONTHS of research on autism. I wouldn’t go as far to say that I believe Itachi’s format of displaying the theory, but I do feel Autism is somewhat of an evolution of humans.
Consider some facts: ADHD ran rampant for a decade and many of the traits of ADHD are actually seen in ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder) and many children on the “spectrum” are dx’d ADHD and ASD, plus SPD (Sensory Processing Disorder). ADHD is really the mild form of Autism and I feel all the aforementioned conditions are interrelated.
Nobody knows what causes ASD, but what we do know is that it so far has not been proven to be genetic, so the offensive comment from 1indainfinite couldn’t be further from the truth! In fact, many professionals feel genetics play a small role, if any, as they cannot isolate a gene responsible. They have found genes responsible for similar trait conditions, like Fragile X and Rhetts, but not AUTISM. However, almost all folks feel something environmental is at minimum a trigger, if not the cause! Whether vaccinations, pesticides, TELEVISION, WiFi, etc. are the cause or all is yet and may never be determined.
What I know as a parent: I have a 2 year old that can functionally use a computer and almost all electronic communication items after one or two times of being taught! In fact, many non-verbal autistics are provided electronic speech devices to unlock a highly intelligent child into the World! It’s amazing to witness!
Given the above, I often wonder if ASD is the next evolution of mankind? Given our World and how it is now functioning we will eventually all be isolated within out homes and barricaded from our community anyways! Look at the time spent with in-home entertainment and how we now communicate more with technology then any other method...email, telephones, webcams, virtual Worlds and gaming, etc.
Now, what is the ONE common denominator of autistic kids? They are visually taught, function best with electronics, and often use electronics to communicate b/c their areas of deficit are in SOCIAL and COMMUNICATION SKILLS! In fact, that is how ADHD and Autism are differentiated...Social and communication Skills! My dd is 2 y/o and knows her numbers to 15, alphabet, and is now starting to count in Spanish! She learned this ALL through her TV programs! In fact, when I attempted to teach them 1:1 she wouldn’t grasp the concept. Put it on TV and it becomes functional! All other skills taught she has processing difficulties with, EXCEPT those from TV! Something in the Autistic brain is switched to have input and stimulation in a different format! The wires are crossed!
In the very near future you will find almost all jobs being done by telecommuting due to gas prices and if the energy crisis continues in this downward spiral, society will not be able to afford to socialize like we do now! Due to our cultural evolution to date, it’s highly unlikely that society will regress back to the Western days.
So, provided the above our society is headed towards a non-physical community that communicates primarily electronically, if not 100%. So, who would survive in this community? The Autistics!
I wish more people would stop approaching Autism as a disability and as though something is majorily wrong, but that these folks are just different! Maybe it’s us that need to adapt and not them! Maybe their form of communication would be more productive if we tried to learn it and help them adapt it into their environment, instead of forcing our ways on them!
Just late night thoughts of a Mother trying to make sense of a childs needs!
That is pretty interesting miss.
| | | 25 Jun 2008 04:05 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 23  Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 1,898 OFFLINE | Mom of Auti wrote:
My daughter is Autistic and I began wondering a similar theory myself, after MONTHS of research on autism. I wouldn’t go as far to say that I believe Itachi’s format of displaying the theory, but I do feel Autism is somewhat of an evolution of humans.
Consider some facts: ADHD ran rampant for a decade and many of the traits of ADHD are actually seen in ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder) and many children on the “spectrum” are dx’d ADHD and ASD, plus SPD (Sensory Processing Disorder). ADHD is really the mild form of Autism and I feel all the aforementioned conditions are interrelated.
Nobody knows what causes ASD, but what we do know is that it so far has not been proven to be genetic, so the offensive comment from 1indainfinite couldn’t be further from the truth! In fact, many professionals feel genetics play a small role, if any, as they cannot isolate a gene responsible. They have found genes responsible for similar trait conditions, like Fragile X and Rhetts, but not AUTISM. However, almost all folks feel something environmental is at minimum a trigger, if not the cause! Whether vaccinations, pesticides, TELEVISION, WiFi, etc. are the cause or all is yet and may never be determined.
What I know as a parent: I have a 2 year old that can functionally use a computer and almost all electronic communication items after one or two times of being taught! In fact, many non-verbal autistics are provided electronic speech devices to unlock a highly intelligent child into the World! It’s amazing to witness!
Given the above, I often wonder if ASD is the next evolution of mankind? Given our World and how it is now functioning we will eventually all be isolated within out homes and barricaded from our community anyways! Look at the time spent with in-home entertainment and how we now communicate more with technology then any other method...email, telephones, webcams, virtual Worlds and gaming, etc.
Now, what is the ONE common denominator of autistic kids? They are visually taught, function best with electronics, and often use electronics to communicate b/c their areas of deficit are in SOCIAL and COMMUNICATION SKILLS! In fact, that is how ADHD and Autism are differentiated...Social and communication Skills! My dd is 2 y/o and knows her numbers to 15, alphabet, and is now starting to count in Spanish! She learned this ALL through her TV programs! In fact, when I attempted to teach them 1:1 she wouldn’t grasp the concept. Put it on TV and it becomes functional! All other skills taught she has processing difficulties with, EXCEPT those from TV! Something in the Autistic brain is switched to have input and stimulation in a different format! The wires are crossed!
In the very near future you will find almost all jobs being done by telecommuting due to gas prices and if the energy crisis continues in this downward spiral, society will not be able to afford to socialize like we do now! Due to our cultural evolution to date, it’s highly unlikely that society will regress back to the Western days.
So, provided the above our society is headed towards a non-physical community that communicates primarily electronically, if not 100%. So, who would survive in this community? The Autistics!
I wish more people would stop approaching Autism as a disability and as though something is majorily wrong, but that these folks are just different! Maybe it’s us that need to adapt and not them! Maybe their form of communication would be more productive if we tried to learn it and help them adapt it into their environment, instead of forcing our ways on them!
Just late night thoughts of a Mother trying to make sense of a childs needs!
Provided the world becomes more technologically advanced. If society breaks down from things such as environmental damage, war, a global pandemic or a natural disaster I would doubt an autistic persons ability to cope.
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