| 13 Jul 2008 04:49 am |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | Tommmmmmmmmm wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tommmmmmmmmm wrote:
frieza wins because he has better fighting skills cooler may have a highper powerlevel and a higher form he cant use them correctly.
fail. It has been stated Cooler was the stronger brother.
yes but it is not stated by goku gokus only words are ''OH no hes huge'' those were hes exact words so im in favor with frieza and that is not going to change.
It IS stated by Goku dude. Watch the entire movie again
Note: It may be the Japanese(The canon) version
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| 13 Jul 2008 04:50 am |
Tommmmmmmmmm Guest | Darth Nihilus wrote:
Thorn In The Rose wrote:
1. Not really after Namek Goku never went home in the series he trained in space (for a year and a half) to learn how to tranceform and control SSJ without becomeing enraged to do so he also knew IT, yet in the Cooler movie he went home no IT and he still needed to become enraged to tranceform Gohan’s hair was as it was on Namek not long like in the Garlic JR or Trunk’s Saga meaning it’s recent...so Goku would have done little to no training since then hell he was camping with Krillin and Gohan showing how lax he had become.
He only did that because he knew that Gohan was stronger than him at the time of the Cell Games. Hence the ssj2 Gohan.
2. Your forgetting Mecha Freiza was beyond Final Form Freiza also, but anyway if Cooler was stronger than Freiza he could have atleast put up a fight against Goku is all im saying but no Goku handed him his ass (dident you see how fast Goku blew him away from the earth into the sun)???, the fact Freiza could Fight SSJ Goku and Cooler could not speak’s volume’s.
Cooler did fight him, but Goku wanted to end it quickly. When Goku gets angry enough, someone gets hurt. ex Frieza and Cooler.
yes but i think goku was alot angrier with frieza then cooler simply because frieza killed someone and cooler didnt | |
| 13 Jul 2008 04:52 am |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | Tommmmmmmmmm wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
Thorn In The Rose wrote:
1. Not really after Namek Goku never went home in the series he trained in space (for a year and a half) to learn how to tranceform and control SSJ without becomeing enraged to do so he also knew IT, yet in the Cooler movie he went home no IT and he still needed to become enraged to tranceform Gohan’s hair was as it was on Namek not long like in the Garlic JR or Trunk’s Saga meaning it’s recent...so Goku would have done little to no training since then hell he was camping with Krillin and Gohan showing how lax he had become.
He only did that because he knew that Gohan was stronger than him at the time of the Cell Games. Hence the ssj2 Gohan.
2. Your forgetting Mecha Freiza was beyond Final Form Freiza also, but anyway if Cooler was stronger than Freiza he could have atleast put up a fight against Goku is all im saying but no Goku handed him his ass (dident you see how fast Goku blew him away from the earth into the sun)???, the fact Freiza could Fight SSJ Goku and Cooler could not speak’s volume’s.
Cooler did fight him, but Goku wanted to end it quickly. When Goku gets angry enough, someone gets hurt. ex Frieza and Cooler.
yes but i think goku was alot angrier with frieza then cooler simply because frieza killed someone and cooler didnt
And he didn’t want Cooler to do that. He remembered how Frieza killed Krillin he didn’t want a repeat.
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| 13 Jul 2008 04:55 am |
Tommmmmmmmmm Guest | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tommmmmmmmmm wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tommmmmmmmmm wrote:
frieza wins because he has better fighting skills cooler may have a highper powerlevel and a higher form he cant use them correctly.
fail. It has been stated Cooler was the stronger brother.
yes but it is not stated by goku gokus only words are ''OH no hes huge'' those were hes exact words so im in favor with frieza and that is not going to change.
It IS stated by Goku dude. Watch the entire movie again
Note: It may be the Japanese(The canon) version
yer but im aussie so i am not going to beileve a japeneese version and insteead of listening to words i actually watch the fight and look carfully about who i think is stronger cooler is just like frieza cocky so of course he would have said hes stronger and dont get me wrong i know cooler had one form before frieza but its the way he uses it.
1st of all frieza has skill he is very fast and he lays multiple combos onto you now over to cooler.
the only moves cooler has are sqaushing his opponents with either his arms or his feet thats about it so in log frieza is a better fighter but cooler has a higher power level but the victory would go ti cooler since frieza cant stay at 100% | |
| 13 Jul 2008 04:56 am |
Tommmmmmmmmm Guest | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tommmmmmmmmm wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
Thorn In The Rose wrote:
1. Not really after Namek Goku never went home in the series he trained in space (for a year and a half) to learn how to tranceform and control SSJ without becomeing enraged to do so he also knew IT, yet in the Cooler movie he went home no IT and he still needed to become enraged to tranceform Gohan’s hair was as it was on Namek not long like in the Garlic JR or Trunk’s Saga meaning it’s recent...so Goku would have done little to no training since then hell he was camping with Krillin and Gohan showing how lax he had become.
He only did that because he knew that Gohan was stronger than him at the time of the Cell Games. Hence the ssj2 Gohan.
2. Your forgetting Mecha Freiza was beyond Final Form Freiza also, but anyway if Cooler was stronger than Freiza he could have atleast put up a fight against Goku is all im saying but no Goku handed him his ass (dident you see how fast Goku blew him away from the earth into the sun)???, the fact Freiza could Fight SSJ Goku and Cooler could not speak’s volume’s.
Cooler did fight him, but Goku wanted to end it quickly. When Goku gets angry enough, someone gets hurt. ex Frieza and Cooler.
yes but i think goku was alot angrier with frieza then cooler simply because frieza killed someone and cooler didnt
And he didn’t want Cooler to do that. He remembered how Frieza killed Krillin he didn’t want a repeat.
but u stated if goku gets angry someone gets hurt and yes cooler did but i think goku was alot angrier at frieza | |
| 13 Jul 2008 05:01 am |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | Tommmmmmmmmm wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tommmmmmmmmm wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tommmmmmmmmm wrote:
frieza wins because he has better fighting skills cooler may have a highper powerlevel and a higher form he cant use them correctly.
fail. It has been stated Cooler was the stronger brother.
yes but it is not stated by goku gokus only words are ''OH no hes huge'' those were hes exact words so im in favor with frieza and that is not going to change.
It IS stated by Goku dude. Watch the entire movie again
Note: It may be the Japanese(The canon) version
yer but im aussie so i am not going to beileve a japeneese version and insteead of listening to words i actually watch the fight and look carfully about who i think is stronger cooler is just like frieza cocky so of course he would have said hes stronger and dont get me wrong i know cooler had one form before frieza but its the way he uses it.
1st of all frieza has skill he is very fast and he lays multiple combos onto you now over to cooler.
the only moves cooler has are sqaushing his opponents with either his arms or his feet thats about it so in log frieza is a better fighter but cooler has a higher power level but the victory would go ti cooler since frieza cant stay at 100%
You also have to remember it was a movie so they couldn’t exactly make a 30 episode fight. It’s just like in AC where Sephiroth only lasts 7 minutes.
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| 13 Jul 2008 05:05 am |
Nihilus nli Guest | Tommmmmmmmmm wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tommmmmmmmmm wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
Thorn In The Rose wrote:
1. Not really after Namek Goku never went home in the series he trained in space (for a year and a half) to learn how to tranceform and control SSJ without becomeing enraged to do so he also knew IT, yet in the Cooler movie he went home no IT and he still needed to become enraged to tranceform Gohan’s hair was as it was on Namek not long like in the Garlic JR or Trunk’s Saga meaning it’s recent...so Goku would have done little to no training since then hell he was camping with Krillin and Gohan showing how lax he had become.
He only did that because he knew that Gohan was stronger than him at the time of the Cell Games. Hence the ssj2 Gohan.
2. Your forgetting Mecha Freiza was beyond Final Form Freiza also, but anyway if Cooler was stronger than Freiza he could have atleast put up a fight against Goku is all im saying but no Goku handed him his ass (dident you see how fast Goku blew him away from the earth into the sun)???, the fact Freiza could Fight SSJ Goku and Cooler could not speak’s volume’s.
Cooler did fight him, but Goku wanted to end it quickly. When Goku gets angry enough, someone gets hurt. ex Frieza and Cooler.
yes but i think goku was alot angrier with frieza then cooler simply because frieza killed someone and cooler didnt
And he didn’t want Cooler to do that. He remembered how Frieza killed Krillin he didn’t want a repeat.
but u stated if goku gets angry someone gets hurt and yes cooler did but i think goku was alot angrier at frieza
Yes, they get hurt, or worse killed. Goku killed Recoome, and he wasn’t even pissed off. One good punch did the job, laying his ass out. Basically if Goku is angry enough, someone’s going to get seriously hurt, or even worse.
Goku gave Frieza a chance to live, but Frieza declined, shooting a blast at Goku, as to which Goku replied with a going away present. Then there is the battle with Cooler.
Cooler shot a blast that looks to be compared with a supernova at Goku, and yet Goku sent it right back at Cooler at full force, sending him into the sun, killing him, or so we thought it did.
And since it was a movie, they don’t last as long as the anime or the manga chapters and episodes do, so Cooler Frieza would have been out of the picture just as quickly as Cooler was if he had been in that movie instead of his big brother. | |
| 13 Jul 2008 06:03 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6 Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 1,224 OFFLINE | Cooler wins ---
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| 15 Jul 2008 02:49 am |
Tommmmmmmmmm Guest | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tommmmmmmmmm wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tommmmmmmmmm wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tommmmmmmmmm wrote:
frieza wins because he has better fighting skills cooler may have a highper powerlevel and a higher form he cant use them correctly.
fail. It has been stated Cooler was the stronger brother.
yes but it is not stated by goku gokus only words are ''OH no hes huge'' those were hes exact words so im in favor with frieza and that is not going to change.
It IS stated by Goku dude. Watch the entire movie again
Note: It may be the Japanese(The canon) version
yer but im aussie so i am not going to beileve a japeneese version and insteead of listening to words i actually watch the fight and look carfully about who i think is stronger cooler is just like frieza cocky so of course he would have said hes stronger and dont get me wrong i know cooler had one form before frieza but its the way he uses it.
1st of all frieza has skill he is very fast and he lays multiple combos onto you now over to cooler.
the only moves cooler has are sqaushing his opponents with either his arms or his feet thats about it so in log frieza is a better fighter but cooler has a higher power level but the victory would go ti cooler since frieza cant stay at 100%
You also have to remember it was a movie so they couldn’t exactly make a 30 episode fight. It’s just like in AC where Sephiroth only lasts 7 minutes.
hey not my problem its only a movie and just cause its a movie doesent mean it changes coolers skills at fighting?? i like cooler hes pretty cool but he has nothing on frieza | |
| 15 Jul 2008 02:53 am |
Tommmmmmmmmm Guest | Nihilus nli wrote:
Tommmmmmmmmm wrote:
frieza wins because he has better fighting skills cooler may have a highper powerlevel and a higher form he cant use them correctly.
Uh, no. Freiza loses because Cooler has more power and strength than his little brother, not to mention that he has one more form than his brother, giving him more power and strength.
dude strength is nothing frieza has better fighting skills u can tell out of the two who is better cooler just squishes his opponents like a big fat ass and frieza is a fast and has combos | |
| 29 Jul 2008 04:29 am |
DarkD Guest | NO! Frieza is more powerful then cooler. Goku if he got stronger barely got stronger becasue he couldnt control his super saiyan form still. Frieza 100% gave a fight to goku for a bit and cooler in his final form sucked and couldnt even hurt Goku with anything! Frieza rapes cooler doesnt. | |
| 29 Jul 2008 05:07 am |
Addict (beyond 1337) Rep: 55 Joined: 17 Jan 2007 Posts: 5,017 OFFLINE | DarkD wrote:
NO! Frieza is more powerful then cooler. Goku if he got stronger barely got stronger becasue he couldnt control his super saiyan form still. Frieza 100% gave a fight to goku for a bit and cooler in his final form sucked and couldnt even hurt Goku with anything! Frieza rapes cooler doesnt.
Trunks owned frezia, goku owned Trunks, I dont have any evidence, but I suspect that Coolers is about the same strength as Trunks..
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| 29 Jul 2008 02:05 pm |
Regular Rep: 13 Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 318 OFFLINE | Freiza ftw Goku beat Cooler far to easy in SSJ | |
| 29 Jul 2008 02:07 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105 Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | U R A FUCKING NOOB 4 READING THIS wrote:
Freiza ftw Goku beat Cooler far to easy in SSJ
It would have been the same for Frieza is he were in the movie besides his brother. Frieza owning himself is even worse. | |
| 29 Jul 2008 02:09 pm |
Regular Rep: 13Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 318 OFFLINE | Nahhh Freiza fought on par with Goku in SSJ Cooler got owned instantly hence Freiza was stronger not to mention his mecha state is alot stronger | |
| 29 Jul 2008 02:11 pm |
FUCK SUPRA Rep: 72 Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 16,788 OFFLINE | COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLER wins
Frieza is cool tho
King cold is good 2
but I kno some one who can beat them both............
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| 29 Jul 2008 02:12 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | U R A FUCKING NOOB 4 READING THIS wrote:
Nahhh Freiza fought on par with Goku in SSJ Cooler got owned instantly hence Freiza was stronger not to mention his mecha state is alot stronger
That doesn’t mean that Frieza is stronger. You have to remember that Goku intended to fight Frieza, not end him so quickly. He wanted to break his spirit, so he won’t harm anyone anymore. Even if Frieza were to go into his 100% form, he would lose, since his power decreases. | |
| 29 Jul 2008 02:15 pm |
Regular Rep: 13Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 318 OFFLINE | Goku had a massive struggle against Freiza tho and he owned Cooler in an instant | |
| 29 Jul 2008 02:16 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,514 OFFLINE | U R A FUCKING NOOB 4 READING THIS wrote:
Goku had a massive struggle against Freiza tho and he owned Cooler in an instant
It’s a movie. Of course he’s going to own him in an instant. They don’t last that long. | |
| 29 Jul 2008 02:17 pm |
FUCK SUPRA Rep: 72Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 16,788 OFFLINE | U R A FUCKING NOOB 4 READING THIS wrote:
Goku had a massive struggle against Freiza tho and he owned Cooler in an instant
that was Goku’s first time using super saiyan, But not against cooler
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