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21 Mar 2008 07:46 pm
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Spoilers for Super smash bros





tabuu is the final boss in the subspace adventure mode
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21 Mar 2008 07:47 pm
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Hard to say. I would have to say Tabuu.
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21 Mar 2008 10:04 pm
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*SPOILERS FOR BRAWL*
It’s hard to say who would win. Tabuu one shotted nearly every Smash Bros Brawl character at the same time, with the exception Sonic,Toon Link,Wolf, and Jigglypuff. However it’s probably because they are all essentially trophies in Smash Bros. Since Sephiroth isn’t a trophy, I’d say he wins.
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21 Mar 2008 10:15 pm
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EB V3 wrote: *SPOILERS FOR BRAWL*
It’s hard to say who would win. Tabuu one shotted nearly every Smash Bros Brawl character at the same time, with the exception Sonic,Toon Link,Wolf, and Jigglypuff. However it’s probably because they are all essentially trophies in Smash Bros. Since Sephiroth isn’t a trophy, I’d say he wins.


Agreed. They don’t have full power in SSBB. I’m pretty sure both Ganondorf and Link could take Tabuu down. And I’m pretty sure he’d lose to Roth.
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21 Mar 2008 11:18 pm
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EB V3 wrote: *SPOILERS FOR BRAWL*
It’s hard to say who would win. Tabuu one shotted nearly every Smash Bros Brawl character at the same time, with the exception Sonic,Toon Link,Wolf, and Jigglypuff. However it’s probably because they are all essentially trophies in Smash Bros. Since Sephiroth isn’t a trophy, I’d say he wins.

master hand wasnt a trophy either and he got killed

hes faster definently, and his attacks are probably more powerful
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08 Jul 2008 02:03 pm
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Tabuu is the most overpowered boss in any SSB game ever. I say he takes this out of my spite for sephiroth.
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08 Jul 2008 02:30 pm
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Tabuu is the embodiment of Subspace.
Tabuu himself cannot leave Subspace.

Master Hand is the master of our world. Tabuu studied Master Hand and the fighters, and this knowledge leads him to use Master Hand for his plans here.

Chains of light bend Master Hand to the will of Tabuu, who uses Master Hand to enlist the likes of Ganondorf, Bowser, and Wario. He gives each of these minions a Dark Cannon and tells them to hunt down any talented fighters that might stand in the way of the Subspace Army. Master Hand is now more a part of the Subspace world than he is a part of our own.

Tabuu takes notice of the peculiar qualities of Mr. Game & Watch’s body mass. He uses these particularities to create a nearly infinite number of shadow bugs, which he then uses to create the Subspace Army.

However, since Mr. Game & Watch does not have any concept of good and evil, he is unaware of the effects caused when he is used in this way.

Tabuu also has his eye on Meta Knight’s ship, the Halberd, as a means of transportation for the Subspace Army.

Using the Subspace Army, he launches a violent attack on Meta Knight and takes the ship for his own. During the attack, King Dedede engages Meta Knight, unknowingly making it impossible for Meta Knight to repel the Subspace Army’s attack.

The circular shockwaves emitted when Tabuu spreads his wings are called Off Waves. This devious technique is capable of immediately transforming many fighters in distant locations into trophies. You could say that this power alone makes Tabuu a nearly invincible opponent.

After Sonic breaks one of his wings, the Off Waves he emits become weaker, but they still have enough power to instantly KO a fighter. You must avoid them at all cost when fighting him.

King Dedede learns of Tabuu’s true nature and the power of his Off Waves during the taking of the Halberd. He begins to worry what will happen once all of the fighters are turned into trophies. Once that happens, there will be no one left to restore the frozen heroes, and the world as we know it will end by Tabuu’s hand.

So he develops a special brooch. The brooches are set to work on a timer; when the timer runs down, the brooch will restore a fighter from his or her trophy form back to the original form. All you need to do is set the brooch on a hero that had been turned into a trophy and leave it there.

When King Dedede learns that Bowser and Wario have joined the Subspace Army and are turning fighters into a collection of trophies, he decides to start his own collection. He hides the fighter trophies he collects in his castle, thinking the brooches will bring them back eventually if something goes wrong, but...

He ends up using the brooch he had made for himself on Peach (or Zelda), and intends to make another one for himself later.

Ganondorf takes control of the robots and forces them to blow up the Isle of the Ancients so that he can tear a hole in space large enough to fit a Subspace gunship through.

Once the mass production of Subspace gunships yielded a certain number of units, it would then be possible to launch all of them through the hole at once. Once the gunships were in our world, there would be no way to stop them from dragging all the remaining pieces of our world into theirs. Once that happened, there would be no more need for the Isle of Ancients or the Subspace Bombs.

The basic plans for the gunship were based on technology from the Isle of Ancients, but construction was handled by the Subspace Army inside Subspace.

The gunship was meant to be Tabuu’s trump card, but the valiant attack by the heroes neutralizes the threat.

<The Great Maze>


Tabuu has begun to reconstruct some of the pieces he tore out of our world into a nightmarish maze. The maze extends even farther than you realize.

The shadowy versions of fighters and the reincarnated bosses from earlier encounters were created based on detailed analysis carried out by the Subspace Army. They were placed here to guard the labyrinth.

In the ending (or new beginning) of the game, the spot marked by the shining “X” is where the Isle of Ancients was. When Tabuu and the Great Maze were destroyed, most parts of our world returned to normal, but the effect of so many Subspace Bombs going off at once made it impossible for the Isle of Ancients to return to normal.


This is the story of Subspace Emissary.

SSB canon-wise, all fighters are at their full power. Therefore, Tabuu is stronger than all the fighters and the Master Hand itself. (He was caught off-guard when Sonic attacked his wing)
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08 Jul 2008 02:38 pm
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Sephiroth is immune to transmution therefor he won’t be turned in to a trophy.
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08 Jul 2008 02:41 pm
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: Sephiroth is immune to transmution therefor he won’t be turned in to a trophy.


Where does it say this?
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08 Jul 2008 02:41 pm
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LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: Sephiroth is immune to transmution therefor he won’t be turned in to a trophy.


Where does it say this?

Try and use toad on him when you fight him. He is immune to that sortive thing, besides Sephiroth’s willpower would either A. Block it B. Allow him to shapeshift back.
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08 Jul 2008 02:48 pm
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: Sephiroth is immune to transmution therefor he won’t be turned in to a trophy.


Where does it say this?

Try and use toad on him when you fight him. He is immune to that sortive thing, besides Sephiroth’s willpower would either A. Block it B. Allow him to shapeshift back.


Gameplay mechanic. The attack AND the immunity are not canonical.
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08 Jul 2008 02:49 pm
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LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: Sephiroth is immune to transmution therefor he won’t be turned in to a trophy.


Where does it say this?

Try and use toad on him when you fight him. He is immune to that sortive thing, besides Sephiroth’s willpower would either A. Block it B. Allow him to shapeshift back.


Gameplay mechanic. The attack AND the immunity are not canonical.

Sephiroth’s will is too powerful anyway.
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08 Jul 2008 02:51 pm
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: Sephiroth is immune to transmution therefor he won’t be turned in to a trophy.


Where does it say this?

Try and use toad on him when you fight him. He is immune to that sortive thing, besides Sephiroth’s willpower would either A. Block it B. Allow him to shapeshift back.


Gameplay mechanic. The attack AND the immunity are not canonical.

Sephiroth’s will is too powerful anyway.


Where does it say his will can revert the transformation from a trophy?
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08 Jul 2008 02:52 pm
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LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: Sephiroth is immune to transmution therefor he won’t be turned in to a trophy.


Where does it say this?

Try and use toad on him when you fight him. He is immune to that sortive thing, besides Sephiroth’s willpower would either A. Block it B. Allow him to shapeshift back.


Gameplay mechanic. The attack AND the immunity are not canonical.

Sephiroth’s will is too powerful anyway.


Where does it say his will can revert the transformation from a trophy?

“Changing ones looks,voice and words is the power of Jenova”-Sephiroth. There ya go.
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08 Jul 2008 02:52 pm
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: Sephiroth is immune to transmution therefor he won’t be turned in to a trophy.


Where does it say this?

Try and use toad on him when you fight him. He is immune to that sortive thing, besides Sephiroth’s willpower would either A. Block it B. Allow him to shapeshift back.


Gameplay mechanic. The attack AND the immunity are not canonical.

Sephiroth’s will is too powerful anyway.


Where does it say his will can revert the transformation from a trophy?

“Changing ones looks,voice and words is the power of Jenova”-Sephiroth. There ya go.


Has he actually done it? Or does everything Sephiroth say considered a fact?
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08 Jul 2008 02:53 pm
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LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: Sephiroth is immune to transmution therefor he won’t be turned in to a trophy.


Where does it say this?

Try and use toad on him when you fight him. He is immune to that sortive thing, besides Sephiroth’s willpower would either A. Block it B. Allow him to shapeshift back.


Gameplay mechanic. The attack AND the immunity are not canonical.

Sephiroth’s will is too powerful anyway.


Where does it say his will can revert the transformation from a trophy?

“Changing ones looks,voice and words is the power of Jenova”-Sephiroth. There ya go.


Has he actually done it? Or does everything Sephiroth say considered a fact?

Jenova has done it, by taking the form of the ancient’s loved ones. Sephiroth has done it by taking the form of Tifa. Sephiroth IS Jenova now so...
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08 Jul 2008 02:54 pm
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Tabuu definitly. nintendo said that in SSBB tabuu was a god
sepiroth may be fast but he cant win
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote: Sephiroth is immune to transmution therefor he won’t be turned in to a trophy.


Where does it say this?

Try and use toad on him when you fight him. He is immune to that sortive thing, besides Sephiroth’s willpower would either A. Block it B. Allow him to shapeshift back.


Gameplay mechanic. The attack AND the immunity are not canonical.

Sephiroth’s will is too powerful anyway.


Where does it say his will can revert the transformation from a trophy?

“Changing ones looks,voice and words is the power of Jenova”-Sephiroth. There ya go.


Has he actually done it? Or does everything Sephiroth say considered a fact?

Jenova has done it, by taking the form of the ancient’s loved ones. Sephiroth has done it by taking the form of Tifa. Sephiroth IS Jenova now so...


But can he transform from a trophy when he was forcibly turned into one?
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Tabuu definitly. nintendo said that in SSBB tabuu was a god
sepiroth may be fast but he cant win
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08 Jul 2008 02:56 pm
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Links assasin wrote: Tabuu definitly. nintendo said that in SSBB tabuu was a god
sepiroth may be fast but he cant win


No, Nintendo didn’t.
But Tabuu is stronger than Master Hand, who is like a god of world of smash.
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