| 08 Jul 2008 02:57 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Sephiroth is immune to transmution therefor he won’t be turned in to a trophy.
Where does it say this?
Try and use toad on him when you fight him. He is immune to that sortive thing, besides Sephiroth’s willpower would either A. Block it B. Allow him to shapeshift back.
Gameplay mechanic. The attack AND the immunity are not canonical.
Sephiroth’s will is too powerful anyway.
Where does it say his will can revert the transformation from a trophy?
“Changing ones looks,voice and words is the power of Jenova”-Sephiroth. There ya go.
Has he actually done it? Or does everything Sephiroth say considered a fact?
Jenova has done it, by taking the form of the ancient’s loved ones. Sephiroth has done it by taking the form of Tifa. Sephiroth IS Jenova now so...
But can he transform from a trophy when he was forcibly turned into one?
He has never really forcibly done anything. I would assume he could block it out with his willpower.
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| 08 Jul 2008 02:58 pm |
Knight of Ratatosk Rep: 36 Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,148 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Sephiroth is immune to transmution therefor he won’t be turned in to a trophy.
Where does it say this?
Try and use toad on him when you fight him. He is immune to that sortive thing, besides Sephiroth’s willpower would either A. Block it B. Allow him to shapeshift back.
Gameplay mechanic. The attack AND the immunity are not canonical.
Sephiroth’s will is too powerful anyway.
Where does it say his will can revert the transformation from a trophy?
“Changing ones looks,voice and words is the power of Jenova”-Sephiroth. There ya go.
Has he actually done it? Or does everything Sephiroth say considered a fact?
Jenova has done it, by taking the form of the ancient’s loved ones. Sephiroth has done it by taking the form of Tifa. Sephiroth IS Jenova now so...
But can he transform from a trophy when he was forcibly turned into one?
He has never really forcibly done anything. I would assume he could block it out with his willpower.
So you are not fully sure?
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| 08 Jul 2008 02:59 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Sephiroth is immune to transmution therefor he won’t be turned in to a trophy.
Where does it say this?
Try and use toad on him when you fight him. He is immune to that sortive thing, besides Sephiroth’s willpower would either A. Block it B. Allow him to shapeshift back.
Gameplay mechanic. The attack AND the immunity are not canonical.
Sephiroth’s will is too powerful anyway.
Where does it say his will can revert the transformation from a trophy?
“Changing ones looks,voice and words is the power of Jenova”-Sephiroth. There ya go.
Has he actually done it? Or does everything Sephiroth say considered a fact?
Jenova has done it, by taking the form of the ancient’s loved ones. Sephiroth has done it by taking the form of Tifa. Sephiroth IS Jenova now so...
But can he transform from a trophy when he was forcibly turned into one?
He has never really forcibly done anything. I would assume he could block it out with his willpower.
So you are not fully sure?
Well can’t really be as noone has attempted to do so on him. Or anything similar.
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| 08 Jul 2008 03:01 pm |
Nevae Anariva Rep: 49 Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 9,975 | Doesn’t Sephiroth have control over Jenova cells? And isn’t he virtually made of them? ---
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| 08 Jul 2008 03:02 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | Tyreaus wrote:
Doesn’t Sephiroth have control over Jenova cells? And isn’t he virtually made of them?
yup
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| 08 Jul 2008 03:02 pm |
Knight of Ratatosk Rep: 36Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,148 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Sephiroth is immune to transmution therefor he won’t be turned in to a trophy.
Where does it say this?
Try and use toad on him when you fight him. He is immune to that sortive thing, besides Sephiroth’s willpower would either A. Block it B. Allow him to shapeshift back.
Gameplay mechanic. The attack AND the immunity are not canonical.
Sephiroth’s will is too powerful anyway.
Where does it say his will can revert the transformation from a trophy?
“Changing ones looks,voice and words is the power of Jenova”-Sephiroth. There ya go.
Has he actually done it? Or does everything Sephiroth say considered a fact?
Jenova has done it, by taking the form of the ancient’s loved ones. Sephiroth has done it by taking the form of Tifa. Sephiroth IS Jenova now so...
But can he transform from a trophy when he was forcibly turned into one?
He has never really forcibly done anything. I would assume he could block it out with his willpower.
So you are not fully sure?
Well can’t really be as noone has attempted to do so on him. Or anything similar.
The circular shockwaves emitted when Tabuu spreads his wings are called Off Waves. This devious technique is capable of immediately transforming many fighters in distant locations into trophies. You could say that this power alone makes Tabuu a nearly invincible opponent.
According to the story, Off Waves can 'immediately' transform fighters in distant locations into trophies.
Since this is SSB-wise canonical, and you are basing your arguments on assumptions, we could say Off Waves should work on Sephiroth.
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| 08 Jul 2008 03:03 pm |
Nevae Anariva Rep: 49Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 9,975 | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
Doesn’t Sephiroth have control over Jenova cells? And isn’t he virtually made of them?
yup
Wouldn’t it make sense that, if he can control his own cellular structure, that he can prevent being changed into anything? o.o
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| 08 Jul 2008 03:03 pm |
Knight of Ratatosk Rep: 36Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,148 OFFLINE | Tyreaus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
Doesn’t Sephiroth have control over Jenova cells? And isn’t he virtually made of them?
yup
Wouldn’t it make sense that, if he can control his own cellular structure, that he can prevent being changed into anything? o.o
Who said Off Waves don’t affect cells?
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| 08 Jul 2008 03:03 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Sephiroth is immune to transmution therefor he won’t be turned in to a trophy.
Where does it say this?
Try and use toad on him when you fight him. He is immune to that sortive thing, besides Sephiroth’s willpower would either A. Block it B. Allow him to shapeshift back.
Gameplay mechanic. The attack AND the immunity are not canonical.
Sephiroth’s will is too powerful anyway.
Where does it say his will can revert the transformation from a trophy?
“Changing ones looks,voice and words is the power of Jenova”-Sephiroth. There ya go.
Has he actually done it? Or does everything Sephiroth say considered a fact?
Jenova has done it, by taking the form of the ancient’s loved ones. Sephiroth has done it by taking the form of Tifa. Sephiroth IS Jenova now so...
But can he transform from a trophy when he was forcibly turned into one?
He has never really forcibly done anything. I would assume he could block it out with his willpower.
So you are not fully sure?
Well can’t really be as noone has attempted to do so on him. Or anything similar.
The circular shockwaves emitted when Tabuu spreads his wings are called Off Waves. This devious technique is capable of immediately transforming many fighters in distant locations into trophies. You could say that this power alone makes Tabuu a nearly invincible opponent.
According to the story, Off Waves can 'immediately' transform fighters in distant locations into trophies.
Since this is SSB-wise canonical, and you are basing your arguments on assumptions, we could say Off Waves should work on Sephiroth.
Or...Maybe not.
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| 08 Jul 2008 03:04 pm |
Knight of Ratatosk Rep: 36Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,148 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Sephiroth is immune to transmution therefor he won’t be turned in to a trophy.
Where does it say this?
Try and use toad on him when you fight him. He is immune to that sortive thing, besides Sephiroth’s willpower would either A. Block it B. Allow him to shapeshift back.
Gameplay mechanic. The attack AND the immunity are not canonical.
Sephiroth’s will is too powerful anyway.
Where does it say his will can revert the transformation from a trophy?
“Changing ones looks,voice and words is the power of Jenova”-Sephiroth. There ya go.
Has he actually done it? Or does everything Sephiroth say considered a fact?
Jenova has done it, by taking the form of the ancient’s loved ones. Sephiroth has done it by taking the form of Tifa. Sephiroth IS Jenova now so...
But can he transform from a trophy when he was forcibly turned into one?
He has never really forcibly done anything. I would assume he could block it out with his willpower.
So you are not fully sure?
Well can’t really be as noone has attempted to do so on him. Or anything similar.
The circular shockwaves emitted when Tabuu spreads his wings are called Off Waves. This devious technique is capable of immediately transforming many fighters in distant locations into trophies. You could say that this power alone makes Tabuu a nearly invincible opponent.
According to the story, Off Waves can 'immediately' transform fighters in distant locations into trophies.
Since this is SSB-wise canonical, and you are basing your arguments on assumptions, we could say Off Waves should work on Sephiroth.
Or...Maybe not.
>______>
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| 08 Jul 2008 03:08 pm |
Nevae Anariva Rep: 49Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 9,975 | LordMarluxia wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
Doesn’t Sephiroth have control over Jenova cells? And isn’t he virtually made of them?
yup
Wouldn’t it make sense that, if he can control his own cellular structure, that he can prevent being changed into anything? o.o
Who said Off Waves don’t affect cells?
Well, nobody said they do...>.>
That being if you could even effect Jenova cells, if Sephiroth has control over them...
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| 08 Jul 2008 03:12 pm |
Knight of Ratatosk Rep: 36Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,148 OFFLINE | Tyreaus wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
Doesn’t Sephiroth have control over Jenova cells? And isn’t he virtually made of them?
yup
Wouldn’t it make sense that, if he can control his own cellular structure, that he can prevent being changed into anything? o.o
Who said Off Waves don’t affect cells?
Well, nobody said they do...>.>
That being if you could even effect Jenova cells, if Sephiroth has control over them...
I thought Sephiroth WAS Jenova Cells. If Jenova Cells are affected, so will Sephiroth. D;
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| 08 Jul 2008 03:17 pm |
Nevae Anariva Rep: 49Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 9,975 | LordMarluxia wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
Doesn’t Sephiroth have control over Jenova cells? And isn’t he virtually made of them?
yup
Wouldn’t it make sense that, if he can control his own cellular structure, that he can prevent being changed into anything? o.o
Who said Off Waves don’t affect cells?
Well, nobody said they do...>.>
That being if you could even effect Jenova cells, if Sephiroth has control over them...
I thought Sephiroth WAS Jenova Cells. If Jenova Cells are affected, so will Sephiroth. D;
Sephiroth’s body, yes. He still has control over Jenova cells, including the ones that would make up his body.
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| 08 Jul 2008 03:31 pm |
Knight of Ratatosk Rep: 36Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,148 OFFLINE | Tyreaus wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
Doesn’t Sephiroth have control over Jenova cells? And isn’t he virtually made of them?
yup
Wouldn’t it make sense that, if he can control his own cellular structure, that he can prevent being changed into anything? o.o
Who said Off Waves don’t affect cells?
Well, nobody said they do...>.>
That being if you could even effect Jenova cells, if Sephiroth has control over them...
I thought Sephiroth WAS Jenova Cells. If Jenova Cells are affected, so will Sephiroth. D;
Sephiroth’s body, yes. He still has control over Jenova cells, including the ones that would make up his body.
But would that work in Subspace?
Isn’t Sephiroth’s will like, basically the lifestream itself or something?
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| 08 Jul 2008 06:47 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | sephiroth could make an attempt to shatter the wings like sonic did ---
  me=destinyguy678
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| 08 Jul 2008 06:59 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85 Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | Sephiroth isn’t a trophy, so he couldn’t be turned into a trophy. Correct? Was Master Hand transformed or was he just knocked out? ---
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| 08 Jul 2008 07:32 pm |
Knight of Ratatosk Rep: 36Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,148 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
Sephiroth isn’t a trophy, so he couldn’t be turned into a trophy. Correct? Was Master Hand transformed or was he just knocked out?
Master Hand=God of SSB World
kthxbai
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| 08 Jul 2008 07:38 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
Sephiroth isn’t a trophy, so he couldn’t be turned into a trophy. Correct? Was Master Hand transformed or was he just knocked out?
Master Hand=God of SSB World
kthxbai
Goddess of the FF7 world<Sephiroth
kthxbai
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| 08 Jul 2008 07:48 pm |
Knight of Ratatosk Rep: 36Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,148 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
Sephiroth isn’t a trophy, so he couldn’t be turned into a trophy. Correct? Was Master Hand transformed or was he just knocked out?
Master Hand=God of SSB World
kthxbai
Goddess of the FF7 world<Sephiroth
kthxbai
God of SSB world<Tabuu
kthxbai
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| 08 Jul 2008 07:50 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | LordMarluxia wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
Sephiroth isn’t a trophy, so he couldn’t be turned into a trophy. Correct? Was Master Hand transformed or was he just knocked out?
Master Hand=God of SSB World
kthxbai
Goddess of the FF7 world<Sephiroth
kthxbai
God of SSB world<Tabuu
kthxbai
uhhhh....Okay?
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