| 08 Jul 2008 09:18 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26 Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
his off wings should be able to make sephiroth into a trophy, not everyinthing in subspace is a trophy (such as many of the creatures) but can be made into trophies
Off waves are energy and thus will be currupted by the negative lifestream. OR Seph can simply recreate his body instantly and continue kicking Tabuu’s ass.
how is this done? in advent children didnt he need to take someone elses body?
and tabuu could keep teleporting around, I thin kthe fight is pretty even honestly
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| 08 Jul 2008 09:18 pm |
Knight of Ratatosk Rep: 36 Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,148 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
He’s PURE ENERGY. That makes it even easier for the negative lifestream to corrupt him. Seeing as how it works by corrupting the energy within the body.
k. You wiki-ed it. No.
I am basing this talk on info from Smashbros.com itself.
Then explain what he is pronto or I have to believe the most reliable source of info.
Embodiment of Subspace. It never says he is a living or nonliving entity.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea17.html
His attacks are energy based and his appearance seems to be that of pure energy. Therefore, I’m fairly certain wikipedia is right is claiming he is made of pure energy. My proof are in his energy based attacks and appearance. Try proving me wrong.
Now you are basing this on assumptions and opinions from other fans.
Tron looks like Tabuu. He’s not a pure energy.
Energy based attacks, no. Just because someone uses an energy based attack does not mean that person is a pure energy.
End topic. Draw. I can’t find a way for Tabuu to kill Sephy, nor can I find a way for Sephy to kill Tabuu without PIS.
What if Tabuu used one of his energy attacks and Seph corrupted said attack and turned it on Tabuu? Can Tabuu take his own attacks?
Prove his attacks are energy-based.
Prove they’re not. You said it yourself that both disproving and proving are of equal importance here. They look like energy attacks. What you got?
It never says they are energy attacks in the dojo itself. 8===>
That’s my proof. >=o
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| 08 Jul 2008 09:19 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
He’s PURE ENERGY. That makes it even easier for the negative lifestream to corrupt him. Seeing as how it works by corrupting the energy within the body.
k. You wiki-ed it. No.
I am basing this talk on info from Smashbros.com itself.
Then explain what he is pronto or I have to believe the most reliable source of info.
Embodiment of Subspace. It never says he is a living or nonliving entity.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea17.html
His attacks are energy based and his appearance seems to be that of pure energy. Therefore, I’m fairly certain wikipedia is right is claiming he is made of pure energy. My proof are in his energy based attacks and appearance. Try proving me wrong.
Now you are basing this on assumptions and opinions from other fans.
Tron looks like Tabuu. He’s not a pure energy.
Energy based attacks, no. Just because someone uses an energy based attack does not mean that person is a pure energy.
End topic. Draw. I can’t find a way for Tabuu to kill Sephy, nor can I find a way for Sephy to kill Tabuu without PIS.
What if Tabuu used one of his energy attacks and Seph corrupted said attack and turned it on Tabuu? Can Tabuu take his own attacks?
Prove his attacks are energy-based.
Prove they’re not. You said it yourself that both disproving and proving are of equal importance here. They look like energy attacks. What you got?
sorry to be a thorn in your side  but you cant prove a negative, especially when your theory requires the off waves to be an energy attack.
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| 08 Jul 2008 09:20 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85 Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
He’s PURE ENERGY. That makes it even easier for the negative lifestream to corrupt him. Seeing as how it works by corrupting the energy within the body.
k. You wiki-ed it. No.
I am basing this talk on info from Smashbros.com itself.
Then explain what he is pronto or I have to believe the most reliable source of info.
Embodiment of Subspace. It never says he is a living or nonliving entity.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea17.html
His attacks are energy based and his appearance seems to be that of pure energy. Therefore, I’m fairly certain wikipedia is right is claiming he is made of pure energy. My proof are in his energy based attacks and appearance. Try proving me wrong.
Now you are basing this on assumptions and opinions from other fans.
Tron looks like Tabuu. He’s not a pure energy.
Energy based attacks, no. Just because someone uses an energy based attack does not mean that person is a pure energy.
End topic. Draw. I can’t find a way for Tabuu to kill Sephy, nor can I find a way for Sephy to kill Tabuu without PIS.
What if Tabuu used one of his energy attacks and Seph corrupted said attack and turned it on Tabuu? Can Tabuu take his own attacks?
Prove his attacks are energy-based.
Prove they’re not. You said it yourself that both disproving and proving are of equal importance here. They look like energy attacks. What you got?
It never says they are energy attacks in the dojo itself. 8===>
That’s my proof. >=o
And yet it never says they aren’t. Not commenting on it doesn’t mean it’s automatically false.
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
his off wings should be able to make sephiroth into a trophy, not everyinthing in subspace is a trophy (such as many of the creatures) but can be made into trophies
Off waves are energy and thus will be currupted by the negative lifestream. OR Seph can simply recreate his body instantly and continue kicking Tabuu’s ass.
how is this done? in advent children didnt he need to take someone elses body?
and tabuu could keep teleporting around, I thin kthe fight is pretty even honestly
Ultimania Omega says it. And no, this is pretty one sided. Nothing has been presented that Seph can’t take care of. However, there’s been plenty that Tabuu can’t get around. Such as being killed by the negative lifestream. Or being chopped up from a distance.
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| 08 Jul 2008 09:22 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
He’s PURE ENERGY. That makes it even easier for the negative lifestream to corrupt him. Seeing as how it works by corrupting the energy within the body.
k. You wiki-ed it. No.
I am basing this talk on info from Smashbros.com itself.
Then explain what he is pronto or I have to believe the most reliable source of info.
Embodiment of Subspace. It never says he is a living or nonliving entity.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea17.html
His attacks are energy based and his appearance seems to be that of pure energy. Therefore, I’m fairly certain wikipedia is right is claiming he is made of pure energy. My proof are in his energy based attacks and appearance. Try proving me wrong.
Now you are basing this on assumptions and opinions from other fans.
Tron looks like Tabuu. He’s not a pure energy.
Energy based attacks, no. Just because someone uses an energy based attack does not mean that person is a pure energy.
End topic. Draw. I can’t find a way for Tabuu to kill Sephy, nor can I find a way for Sephy to kill Tabuu without PIS.
What if Tabuu used one of his energy attacks and Seph corrupted said attack and turned it on Tabuu? Can Tabuu take his own attacks?
Prove his attacks are energy-based.
Prove they’re not. You said it yourself that both disproving and proving are of equal importance here. They look like energy attacks. What you got?
sorry to be a thorn in your side but you cant prove a negative, especially when your theory requires the off waves to be an energy attack.
It’s one of those “looks like, sounds like, must be” type of things. All evidence points to Tabuu being a being of pure energy. He looks like he is, his attacks seem to be energy based, such as the cannon thing, and wikipedia even says he is.
There’s more evidence to support his being made of pure energy then there is to deny it.
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| 08 Jul 2008 09:22 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | they both have one hit kill attacks, unless sephiroth ca nresist transmutation ---
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| 08 Jul 2008 09:24 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
they both have one hit kill attacks, unless sephiroth ca nresist transmutation
He can. I’ve said it like, a million times. Sephiroth is able to recreate his body instantly from the lifestream. IF he was turned into a trophy, he’d simply instantly create a new body and continue fighting.
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| 08 Jul 2008 09:25 pm |
Knight of Ratatosk Rep: 36Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,148 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
He’s PURE ENERGY. That makes it even easier for the negative lifestream to corrupt him. Seeing as how it works by corrupting the energy within the body.
k. You wiki-ed it. No.
I am basing this talk on info from Smashbros.com itself.
Then explain what he is pronto or I have to believe the most reliable source of info.
Embodiment of Subspace. It never says he is a living or nonliving entity.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea17.html
His attacks are energy based and his appearance seems to be that of pure energy. Therefore, I’m fairly certain wikipedia is right is claiming he is made of pure energy. My proof are in his energy based attacks and appearance. Try proving me wrong.
Now you are basing this on assumptions and opinions from other fans.
Tron looks like Tabuu. He’s not a pure energy.
Energy based attacks, no. Just because someone uses an energy based attack does not mean that person is a pure energy.
End topic. Draw. I can’t find a way for Tabuu to kill Sephy, nor can I find a way for Sephy to kill Tabuu without PIS.
What if Tabuu used one of his energy attacks and Seph corrupted said attack and turned it on Tabuu? Can Tabuu take his own attacks?
Prove his attacks are energy-based.
Prove they’re not. You said it yourself that both disproving and proving are of equal importance here. They look like energy attacks. What you got?
sorry to be a thorn in your side but you cant prove a negative, especially when your theory requires the off waves to be an energy attack.
It’s one of those “looks like, sounds like, must be” type of things. All evidence points to Tabuu being a being of pure energy. He looks like he is, his attacks seem to be energy based, such as the cannon thing, and wikipedia even says he is.
There’s more evidence to support his being made of pure energy then there is to deny it.
Evidence? More like assumptions.
Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. Sakurai certainly didn’t do it because he’s Japanese.
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| 08 Jul 2008 09:25 pm |
Knight of Ratatosk Rep: 36Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,148 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
they both have one hit kill attacks, unless sephiroth ca nresist transmutation
He can. I’ve said it like, a million times. Sephiroth is able to recreate his body instantly from the lifestream. IF he was turned into a trophy, he’d simply instantly create a new body and continue fighting.
Dimension>Lifestream
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| 08 Jul 2008 09:27 pm |
Knight of Ratatosk Rep: 36Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,148 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
He’s PURE ENERGY. That makes it even easier for the negative lifestream to corrupt him. Seeing as how it works by corrupting the energy within the body.
k. You wiki-ed it. No.
I am basing this talk on info from Smashbros.com itself.
Then explain what he is pronto or I have to believe the most reliable source of info.
Embodiment of Subspace. It never says he is a living or nonliving entity.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea17.html
His attacks are energy based and his appearance seems to be that of pure energy. Therefore, I’m fairly certain wikipedia is right is claiming he is made of pure energy. My proof are in his energy based attacks and appearance. Try proving me wrong.
Now you are basing this on assumptions and opinions from other fans.
Tron looks like Tabuu. He’s not a pure energy.
Energy based attacks, no. Just because someone uses an energy based attack does not mean that person is a pure energy.
End topic. Draw. I can’t find a way for Tabuu to kill Sephy, nor can I find a way for Sephy to kill Tabuu without PIS.
What if Tabuu used one of his energy attacks and Seph corrupted said attack and turned it on Tabuu? Can Tabuu take his own attacks?
Prove his attacks are energy-based.
Prove they’re not. You said it yourself that both disproving and proving are of equal importance here. They look like energy attacks. What you got?
It never says they are energy attacks in the dojo itself. 8===>
That’s my proof. >=o
And yet it never says they aren’t. Not commenting on it doesn’t mean it’s automatically false.
Nor true.
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| 08 Jul 2008 09:29 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
He’s PURE ENERGY. That makes it even easier for the negative lifestream to corrupt him. Seeing as how it works by corrupting the energy within the body.
k. You wiki-ed it. No.
I am basing this talk on info from Smashbros.com itself.
Then explain what he is pronto or I have to believe the most reliable source of info.
Embodiment of Subspace. It never says he is a living or nonliving entity.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea17.html
His attacks are energy based and his appearance seems to be that of pure energy. Therefore, I’m fairly certain wikipedia is right is claiming he is made of pure energy. My proof are in his energy based attacks and appearance. Try proving me wrong.
Now you are basing this on assumptions and opinions from other fans.
Tron looks like Tabuu. He’s not a pure energy.
Energy based attacks, no. Just because someone uses an energy based attack does not mean that person is a pure energy.
End topic. Draw. I can’t find a way for Tabuu to kill Sephy, nor can I find a way for Sephy to kill Tabuu without PIS.
What if Tabuu used one of his energy attacks and Seph corrupted said attack and turned it on Tabuu? Can Tabuu take his own attacks?
Prove his attacks are energy-based.
Prove they’re not. You said it yourself that both disproving and proving are of equal importance here. They look like energy attacks. What you got?
sorry to be a thorn in your side but you cant prove a negative, especially when your theory requires the off waves to be an energy attack.
It’s one of those “looks like, sounds like, must be” type of things. All evidence points to Tabuu being a being of pure energy. He looks like he is, his attacks seem to be energy based, such as the cannon thing, and wikipedia even says he is.
There’s more evidence to support his being made of pure energy then there is to deny it.
Evidence? More like assumptions.
Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. Sakurai certainly didn’t do it because he’s Japanese.
But 99% of the time any wrong information is edited out very quickly and replaced with correct information.
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
they both have one hit kill attacks, unless sephiroth ca nresist transmutation
He can. I’ve said it like, a million times. Sephiroth is able to recreate his body instantly from the lifestream. IF he was turned into a trophy, he’d simply instantly create a new body and continue fighting.
Dimension>Lifestream
Actually, in FF7 everything is created of the lifestream. So that would mean the dimensions in the game are as well. Meaning, Lifestream > dimension.
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| 08 Jul 2008 09:29 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
He’s PURE ENERGY. That makes it even easier for the negative lifestream to corrupt him. Seeing as how it works by corrupting the energy within the body.
k. You wiki-ed it. No.
I am basing this talk on info from Smashbros.com itself.
Then explain what he is pronto or I have to believe the most reliable source of info.
Embodiment of Subspace. It never says he is a living or nonliving entity.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea17.html
His attacks are energy based and his appearance seems to be that of pure energy. Therefore, I’m fairly certain wikipedia is right is claiming he is made of pure energy. My proof are in his energy based attacks and appearance. Try proving me wrong.
Now you are basing this on assumptions and opinions from other fans.
Tron looks like Tabuu. He’s not a pure energy.
Energy based attacks, no. Just because someone uses an energy based attack does not mean that person is a pure energy.
End topic. Draw. I can’t find a way for Tabuu to kill Sephy, nor can I find a way for Sephy to kill Tabuu without PIS.
What if Tabuu used one of his energy attacks and Seph corrupted said attack and turned it on Tabuu? Can Tabuu take his own attacks?
Prove his attacks are energy-based.
Prove they’re not. You said it yourself that both disproving and proving are of equal importance here. They look like energy attacks. What you got?
It never says they are energy attacks in the dojo itself. 8===>
That’s my proof. >=o
And yet it never says they aren’t. Not commenting on it doesn’t mean it’s automatically false.
Nor true.
Which is where speculation comes into play. And I speculate that he is and have provided my support on the matter.
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| 08 Jul 2008 09:31 pm |
Knight of Ratatosk Rep: 36Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,148 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
But 99% of the time any wrong information is edited out very quickly and replaced with correct information.
And 99% of the time, that 'correct' information might be false or unproven. We are talking about a video game character, not some historical figure.
Cid wrote:
Actually, in FF7 everything is created of the lifestream. So that would mean the dimensions in the game are as well. Meaning, Lifestream > dimension.
FF7=One dimension
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| 08 Jul 2008 09:34 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | Urgh. This is becoming tedious.
I’ll settle for a draw, but only while giving Tabuu the advantage.
If both characters are on even ground, Sephiroth wins, easily, might I add. ---
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| 08 Jul 2008 09:37 pm |
Knight of Ratatosk Rep: 36Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,148 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
Urgh. This is becoming tedious.
I’ll settle for a draw, but only while giving Tabuu the advantage.
If both characters are on even ground, Sephiroth wins, easily, might I add.
No.
Capability-wise (Not the individual character’s full element- Just their power), Sephy.
Even ground, draw, since Tabuu is Subspace.
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| 08 Jul 2008 09:39 pm |
Guardian of MvC Rep: 85Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 44,452 OFFLINE | LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
Urgh. This is becoming tedious.
I’ll settle for a draw, but only while giving Tabuu the advantage.
If both characters are on even ground, Sephiroth wins, easily, might I add.
No.
Capability-wise, Sephy.
Even ground, draw, since Tabuu is Subspace.
Even ground means Seph can summon SuperNova and turn Tabuu into... Nothing. Along with his dimension.
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| 08 Jul 2008 09:40 pm |
Knight of Ratatosk Rep: 36Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,148 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
Urgh. This is becoming tedious.
I’ll settle for a draw, but only while giving Tabuu the advantage.
If both characters are on even ground, Sephiroth wins, easily, might I add.
No.
Capability-wise, Sephy.
Even ground, draw, since Tabuu is Subspace.
Even ground means Seph can summon SuperNova.
Even ground doesn’t mean Gameplay mechanic popping into the story.
Tabuu is Subspace, and supernova, even as a story-wise element, can’t end a dimension.
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| 08 Jul 2008 09:43 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | Cid wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
LordMarluxia wrote:
Cid wrote:
He’s PURE ENERGY. That makes it even easier for the negative lifestream to corrupt him. Seeing as how it works by corrupting the energy within the body.
k. You wiki-ed it. No.
I am basing this talk on info from Smashbros.com itself.
Then explain what he is pronto or I have to believe the most reliable source of info.
Embodiment of Subspace. It never says he is a living or nonliving entity.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea17.html
His attacks are energy based and his appearance seems to be that of pure energy. Therefore, I’m fairly certain wikipedia is right is claiming he is made of pure energy. My proof are in his energy based attacks and appearance. Try proving me wrong.
Now you are basing this on assumptions and opinions from other fans.
Tron looks like Tabuu. He’s not a pure energy.
Energy based attacks, no. Just because someone uses an energy based attack does not mean that person is a pure energy.
End topic. Draw. I can’t find a way for Tabuu to kill Sephy, nor can I find a way for Sephy to kill Tabuu without PIS.
What if Tabuu used one of his energy attacks and Seph corrupted said attack and turned it on Tabuu? Can Tabuu take his own attacks?
Prove his attacks are energy-based.
Prove they’re not. You said it yourself that both disproving and proving are of equal importance here. They look like energy attacks. What you got?
sorry to be a thorn in your side but you cant prove a negative, especially when your theory requires the off waves to be an energy attack.
It’s one of those “looks like, sounds like, must be” type of things. All evidence points to Tabuu being a being of pure energy. He looks like he is, his attacks seem to be energy based, such as the cannon thing, and wikipedia even says he is.
There’s more evidence to support his being made of pure energy then there is to deny it.
wikipedia.org frankly knows as much about tabuu as we do
its merely spculation that hes an energy being theres really othing conrete though unfortunately
me=destinyguy678
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| 08 Jul 2008 09:43 pm |
Knight of Ratatosk Rep: 36Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,148 OFFLINE | /END TOPIC ---
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| 08 Jul 2008 09:44 pm |
the greatest Rep: 26Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 6,046 OFFLINE | also tabuu ingame attacks are the same as his regular ones, if you pay atention super smash characters ONLY used in game moves in the story ---
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