This topic is for those who want to have a debate about certain battles and who they think would win. Post a battle that you think that we should debate on and I shall add it.
The one that gets the most votes is the one that will be started first and so on from there. The max is five votes per topic.
You can vote for each topic only once, but you can vote for the same topic the next day.
Here are some more rules for this thread and the topics to come in the future. The person that created the topic that is voted on the most shall have to post a set of rules for said topic. And the topic shall only go on for a set amount of days.
After the time is up for that vs debate, it shall be judged by the people in the VS council and we shall come to a decision as to who the winner of the VS debate will be.
It shall be based on facts displayed through the topic of debate. And it was Cid’s idea to start the council so I just ran with the idea since it made sense to do so.
No fanboyism, and/or n00bism. You are not helping the debates in anyway when you act out of order.
And please try to stay on topic, if not it ruins the whole debate, and don’t post useless information that has nothing to do with the battle.
And always remember, this is one of the most sacred rules of Moviecodec, so much that it is not added to the rules.
Here are some more rules for the Suggestions topic to update the page more so we can have more civilized debates and not relentless ranting.
The “No PIS” Rule
PIS = Plot Induced Stupidity
At times, for the sake of the plot, characters that are immensely more powerful than their opponent will “job” to carry on the plot of the story, even though the characters powers and history would clearly show that they are more than capable of destroying their opponent. For this reason we have a No PIS Rule. This rule prohibits the use of such instances of PIS from being used as evidence in debates.
Just post battles here.
This is a “versus” forum. A forum dedicated to comic character matches. Any thread that isn’t a match will get closed.
NOTE: Characters involved in a fight should be written in thread title.
No Spite Threads
Now, a spite thread is usually considered as a thread opened to intentionally be one-sided (because the poster may not like that character, or opened to goad another person into responding, etc.). Moderators will decide if or if not a thread was made out of spite. Spite threads are NOT tolerated and will be closed, and the poster warned (or more severe consequences will be taken if that poster’s been warned multiple times).
Rules/Standard Fight Settings
In most cases, the poster who originally set up the versus fight determines the conditions of the fight itself (ex. If a character like Superman is in a thread, it’ll be assumed that it’s the current version unless mentioned otherwise by the thread starter, the same goes with Thanos without the IG, and so on). However, in the cases where the original poster did not set down any constraints or conditions for the fight, then the match would default to the standard rules below.
Prep time
Neither side receives any notable prep time before the starting bell unless the thread starter specifies it. Neither side may take any offensive or defensive actions before the starting bell. Planning is allowed and powers that are automatic or 'always on' can be up, but actions such as setting up forcefields, taking flight, or consciously activating powers is not. For example, Batman cannot shove together an 'anti-Avengers ray' before the fight.
Standard Equipment
Each side starts out with the equipment that they normally and have been shown to consistently carry on them. For example, Daredevil would have his billy-club, but Reed Richards would not have the Ultimate Nullifier.
In a scenario fight, the contestants in whose city/reality the fight takes place are allowed access to any material resources they usually have there or of any team they’re active members of, as long as they can reasonably get to them. For example, in a scenario set in the DCU, Green Lantern would have access to equipment in the JLA Watchtower, but not the Titans headquarters.
Basic Knowledge
Each side receives basic knowledge of the other. A good measure of this would be what the general population of the character’s homeworld knows. For example, that Superman has a weakness to Kryptonite is general knowledge, but that he’s Clark Kent is not.
Full Capacity
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character’s personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn’t clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.
No outside help
Unless specified otherwise, no contestant may call for outside assistance, even in scenario matches. For example, Captain America cannot call in the Avengers during a fight with Batman.
Leaving the field
Combatants who leave the field of combat on purpose forfeit the match. If they are removed from the arena against their will (being punched, thrown, teleported, etc.) and can make it back under their own power in a reasonable amount of time, then they are still in the fight. Obviously, if a combatant leaves the field and cannot return under their own power, then they have lost.
No Bias Claims
“Batman can beat Thor because he’s cooler!" That’s an example of how not to debate. We would like to see the rationale behind any claims that one character can beat the other rather than a claim based on popularity and subjective bias.
Also, we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. If you claim that Spiderman is stronger than Superman, then you have to prove it.
No Non-canon Sources
Non-canon sources are invalid for evidence. With rare exceptions, comics not in continuity such as Elseworlds, What Ifs, or alternate universes are not used for evidence in debates of a particular mainstream character.
A canon source is one that is regarded as being 'in continuity'. In the example of Star Trek; instances from the series and movies can be used, but books are definitely out. Comic book crossovers are usually unusable as they ignore common sense most of the time (DC vs. Marvel is certainly unusable in some cases in our debates!).
This principle extends to characters with multiple versions, alternate timelines, etc. Unless specified by the thread starter, only current-version canon feats are allowed.
No Mentioning Events of PIS
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don’t use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.
Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates.
A plot twist is a change (“twist”) in the direction or expected outcome of the plot of a film, television series, video game, novel, comic or other fictional work. It is a common practice in narration used to keep the interest of an audience, usually surprising them with a revelation. Some “twists” are foreshadowed and can thus be predicted by many viewers, whereas others are a complete shock.
When a plot twist happens near the end of a story, especially if it changes one’s view of the preceding events, it is known as a twist ending.
And for some VS history, here is a link to the Hall of Fame.
VS Debate Council Manchester Black
Trackz
Darth Nihilus
ChibiDiscoDhaos
Buster Sword
Cid
Red_Calibur9
Suggestions Yoh Asakura vs The Blue Beetle - Trackz
Teen Titans vs One Piece - Trackz One Vote
Spawn vs Alucard - Trackz Four Votes
Hiei vs Naraku - goku1003
Dante and Nero vs ??? - Tyreaus
Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs Ricardo Martinez - Manchester Black Two Votes
Ideon vs. Great Zeorymer - GaoGaiGetter
God Gundam vs. Neo Getter Robo - GaoGaiGetter
Astro Boy vs Iron Man - Itachi Uchiha Three Votes
Pegassus Seiya vs Superman Prime - Itachi Uchiha Three Votes
Excellen Browning vs. Trowa Barton - Zero Prime One Vote
Zeus(GOW2) vs Sephiroth (FFVII) - BlacakaNigh95 Three Votes
Yoh Asakura vs. Nate Grey (X-Men) - Trackz
Ben 10,000 vs Luffy - Trackz
Lex Luthor, Batman, and Grodd vs Dr. Doom - _Hells_angel_ One Vote
Blue beetle vs. Guyver - Trackz
X-Men vs Team 7 - Trackz
Shougo Amakusa vs Makoto Shishio - Darth Nihilus Two Votes
Mewtwo vs The Incredible Hulk - RebornChibiDiscoDhaos
Sesshomaru vs Ichigo - RebornChibiDiscoDhaos One Vote
Ancient China vs Ancient Aztecs - jomas the grunt
Light Yagami VS L VS Sherlock Holmes VS Naruto VS Goku - LordMarluxia
Blade vs Vincent - Trackz
Godzilla 54 vs Godzilla Final Wars - 1indainfinite
Ganondorf vs Majora’s Wrath - Darth Nihilus One Vote
Dante vs Alucard - Agung One Vote
Alucard vs Ultimate Thor - Trackz
Dio Brando vs Cloud Strife - Red_Calibur9 One Vote
Ike vs Marth - BlacakaNigh95
The Hulk vs The Juggernaut - 1indainfinite
Thanos vs Gogeta - Buster Sword
Afro Samurai vs Blade - Darth Nihilus
Afro Samurai vs Ronoroa Zoro - Trackz
Link (access to every item including Masks) VS Sephiroth (full powered) - Cid One Vote
Superman Prime vs Imperiex - Darth Nihilus
Official VS Debates Ended
Hiei vs Future Trunks
NihilusRavager7780 vs 98supra
Captain America vs Darth Vader
Megazord vs. Gigantor
Mazinger Z vs. RX-78
Getter Robo vs. Strike Gundam
Excellen Browning vs. Trowa Barton
Yoko Kurama vs Kakashi Hatake
Sasuke vs Vegeta
Gaiking vs. Megas XLR
Hiei vs Naruto Winner
Majin Vegeta vs Broly
Gurren Lagann vs. Megas XLR
Vegeta vs Itachi Uchiha
Goku vs Superman
Samus Aran vs Android 18
This is a good idea but sadly I can’t think of any good debates.I have a debate in my head right now but it probably would get no responses plus we haven’t seen enough of one of the characters.Maybe I’ll be able to think of another battle latter.
for a good debate you usually need somewhat similar characters with large fanbases (which is why superman vs. goku, likn vs. cloud, and samus vs. master chief were so popular)
LordMarluxia wrote:
Good debate? VS topics? IN ONE SAME TOPIC?! ZOMG!
Not logical.
Any suggestions? and yes, it is not logical, but yet it is here.
I didn’t see one good debate here involving VS topics concerning two characters from two different series.
Of course, I COULD be opinionated.
Well, here’s my suggestion.
Ignore the VS topics that already have been done. Goku VS Itachi topics are really getting on my nerves since some certain fanboys cannot comprehend the results of the VS topics.
LordMarluxia wrote:
Good debate? VS topics? IN ONE SAME TOPIC?! ZOMG!
Not logical.
Any suggestions? and yes, it is not logical, but yet it is here.
I didn’t see one good debate here involving VS topics concerning two characters from two different series.
Of course, I COULD be opinionated.
Well, here’s my suggestion.
Ignore the VS topics that already have been done. Goku VS Itachi topics are really getting on my nerves since some certain fanboys cannot comprehend the results of the VS topics.
Hell, we already have four of those, one has already been locked, which makes three now.
LordMarluxia wrote:
Good debate? VS topics? IN ONE SAME TOPIC?! ZOMG!
Not logical.
Any suggestions? and yes, it is not logical, but yet it is here.
I didn’t see one good debate here involving VS topics concerning two characters from two different series.
Of course, I COULD be opinionated.
Well, here’s my suggestion.
Ignore the VS topics that already have been done. Goku VS Itachi topics are really getting on my nerves since some certain fanboys cannot comprehend the results of the VS topics.
Hell, we already have four of those, one has already been locked, which makes three now.
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