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[Quote] #502
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can you lock the android 18 vs samus debate? ive been waiting for trackz for a while now. he hasnt gave any new posts to defend samus. superman prime is just spamming the thread just like he always does. and its getting old

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Well, you would have to have Trackz lock it, since he did make the thread. Until there is a winner or a draw, the debate goes on.

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then that thread will never be locked. i know how stubborn trackz is. he’ll just deny every scan posted, every statement said. but hes an ok guy to debate with.LOL

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07 May 2008 09:38 pm
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Everyone can be stubborn sometimes, including me and you. In some ways, it makes for a good debate. And in some other ways, it ruins them. It hasn’t even been on that long. When it gets to the length of a thread like Goku vs Superman, then it needs to be locked.

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07 May 2008 09:42 pm
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Sweeney Todd wrote: Everyone can be stubborn sometimes, including me and you. In some ways, it makes for a good debate. And in some other ways, it ruins them. It hasn’t even been on that long. When it gets to the length of a thread like Goku vs Superman, then it needs to be locked.

wow, thats a looooong timeLOL

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_hells_angel_ wrote:
Sweeney Todd wrote: Everyone can be stubborn sometimes, including me and you. In some ways, it makes for a good debate. And in some other ways, it ruins them. It hasn’t even been on that long. When it gets to the length of a thread like Goku vs Superman, then it needs to be locked.

wow, thats a looooong timeLOL


More like looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong. LOL.


Votes anyone? Suggestions?

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07 May 2008 09:57 pm
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_hells_angel_ wrote: can you lock the android 18 vs samus debate? ive been waiting for trackz for a while now. he hasnt gave any new posts to defend samus. superman prime is just spamming the thread just like he always does. and its getting old

dude, I dont have all day to debate about characters I have homework to do, because someone doesnt post for a day doesnt mean anything. relax.

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07 May 2008 10:25 pm
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so post already. i cant stand prime anymore. i mean, someone has to band that idiot. nothing but spamming and insulting comes out of his mouth

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08 May 2008 05:34 pm
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_hells_angel_ wrote: so post already. i cant stand prime anymore. i mean, someone has to band that idiot. nothing but spamming and insulting comes out of his mouth

same wit hitachi and seed, but we dont have a standard set of rules in this section so theres nothing we can really do to stop it

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08 May 2008 05:47 pm
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Would you have some rules that we need to add? Anything that works.

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08 May 2008 06:01 pm
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here are some that would help (from KMC)

The “No PIS” Rule

PIS = Plot Induced Stupidity

At times, for the sake of the plot, characters that are immensely more powerful than their opponent will “job” to carry on the plot of the story, even though the characters powers and history would clearly show that they are more than capable of destroying their opponent. For this reason we have a No PIS Rule. This rule prohibits the use of such instances of PIS from being used as evidence in debates.

Just post battles here.
This is a “versus” forum. A forum dedicated to comic character matches. Any thread that isn’t a match will get closed.
NOTE: Characters involved in a fight should be written in thread title.

No Spite Threads
Now, a spite thread is usually considered as a thread opened to intentionally be one-sided (because the poster may not like that character, or opened to goad another person into responding, etc.). Moderators will decide if or if not a thread was made out of spite. Spite threads are NOT tolerated and will be closed, and the poster warned (or more severe consequences will be taken if that poster’s been warned multiple times).


Rules/Standard Fight Settings
In most cases, the poster who originally set up the versus fight determines the conditions of the fight itself (ex. If a character like Superman is in a thread, it’ll be assumed that it’s the current version unless mentioned otherwise by the thread starter, the same goes with Thanos without the IG, and so on). However, in the cases where the original poster did not set down any constraints or conditions for the fight, then the match would default to the standard rules below.

Prep time
Neither side receives any notable prep time before the starting bell unless the thread starter specifies it. Neither side may take any offensive or defensive actions before the starting bell. Planning is allowed and powers that are automatic or 'always on' can be up, but actions such as setting up forcefields, taking flight, or consciously activating powers is not. For example, Batman cannot shove together an 'anti-Avengers ray' before the fight.

Standard Equipment
Each side starts out with the equipment that they normally and have been shown to consistently carry on them. For example, Daredevil would have his billy-club, but Reed Richards would not have the Ultimate Nullifier.
In a scenario fight, the contestants in whose city/reality the fight takes place are allowed access to any material resources they usually have there or of any team they’re active members of, as long as they can reasonably get to them. For example, in a scenario set in the DCU, Green Lantern would have access to equipment in the JLA Watchtower, but not the Titans headquarters.

Basic Knowledge
Each side receives basic knowledge of the other. A good measure of this would be what the general population of the character’s homeworld knows. For example, that Superman has a weakness to Kryptonite is general knowledge, but that he’s Clark Kent is not.


Full Capacity
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character’s personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn’t clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.

No outside help
Unless specified otherwise, no contestant may call for outside assistance, even in scenario matches. For example, Captain America cannot call in the Avengers during a fight with Batman.

Leaving the field
Combatants who leave the field of combat on purpose forfeit the match. If they are removed from the arena against their will (being punched, thrown, teleported, etc.) and can make it back under their own power in a reasonable amount of time, then they are still in the fight. Obviously, if a combatant leaves the field and cannot return under their own power, then they have lost.

No Bias Claims
“Batman can beat Thor because he’s cooler!" That’s an example of how not to debate. We would like to see the rationale behind any claims that one character can beat the other rather than a claim based on popularity and subjective bias.
Also, we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. If you claim that Spiderman is stronger than Superman, then you have to prove it.

No Non-canon Sources
Non-canon sources are invalid for evidence. With rare exceptions, comics not in continuity such as Elseworlds, What Ifs, or alternate universes are not used for evidence in debates of a particular mainstream character.

A canon source is one that is regarded as being 'in continuity'. In the example of Star Trek; instances from the series and movies can be used, but books are definitely out. Comic book crossovers are usually unusable as they ignore common sense most of the time (DC vs. Marvel is certainly unusable in some cases in our debates!).

This principle extends to characters with multiple versions, alternate timelines, etc. Unless specified by the thread starter, only current-version canon feats are allowed.

No Mentioning Events of PIS
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don’t use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.

Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates.

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08 May 2008 06:03 pm
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Well then. I shall add that to the page. It shall help things run smoothly. And what shall be done about the people who try to use the dreaded PIS?

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08 May 2008 06:24 pm
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ignored?

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That’s better. It shall be added now. cool

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08 May 2008 06:28 pm
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I have a new suggestion. I will let you guys choose whether it should be added or not. Yusuke Urameshi vs Naruto Uzumaki. I shall be back later. Time to eat.

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08 May 2008 08:44 pm
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NihilusRavager7780 wrote: I have a new suggestion. I will let you guys choose whether it should be added or not. Yusuke Urameshi vs Naruto Uzumaki. I shall be back later. Time to eat.

ysuke will win, I’ve heard that in his strongest form he destroys mounatain ranges in his fights

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08 May 2008 08:46 pm
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Trackz wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote: I have a new suggestion. I will let you guys choose whether it should be added or not. Yusuke Urameshi vs Naruto Uzumaki. I shall be back later. Time to eat.

ysuke will win, I’ve heard that in his strongest form he destroys mounatain ranges in his fights


Well, we should at least have more fights with Yu Yu Hakusho characters. We barely have any of them.

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[Quote] #520
09 May 2008 03:17 pm
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Sorry, I hadn’t post stuff very recently. I had an appointment for 3 days off. Did I miss something? Oh yeah, lastest winners as of today:
Gurren Lagann vs. Megas XLR = Megas wins
Cloud vs. Sesshomaru = Cloud wins.
Thank you and have a nice day.

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