Just because I can, I’m posting this rule again just so people can actually know how it goes.
No Bias Claims
“Batman can beat Thor because he’s cooler!" That’s an example of how not to debate. We would like to see the rationale behind any claims that one character can beat the other rather than a claim based on popularity and subjective bias.
Also, we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. If you claim that Spiderman is stronger than Superman, then you have to prove it.
I have a lot to discuss with you about the rules Darth Nihilus.
There are a lot of flaws, I’ll start with the one that bugs me most.
People use the toon force, cartoons and other things of this sort in topics, but these topics never last very long.
There is a such thing as a feat of strength, and then there is a such thing as a ludicrously ridiculous joke of strength.
You can’t throw Superman taking a shit that can destroy the universe into a debate because it has no place there, certain things do, like Superman flying, or Buu regenerating, or Goku going SUper Saiyan.
Yes, I am picking and choosing what and what not to use in a versus debate, but certain things must be filtered for a civil discussion, you can keep most of Superman’s feats, like moving War World with heat vision, and Boo regenerating from a single cell, but other things are just too much to ask for, you can’t have Superman inside of a singularity.
Please, be reasonable.
There was one comic book where the Silver Surfer fought inside a singularity, please don’t use this situation as it has no place.
Some of it can be allowed via certain powers and abilities that would give them the ability to defy logic to a certain extent, like by completely mystical, or being of an origin that makes it possible for the laws of physics not to apply for some, and instance is Kid Buu or Mr. Mxy.
Please, Nihilus, we need to make a list of what can be allowed in a versus debate and what should be scorned.
Buster Sword wrote:
Lol Buu and Mxy are not in the same league.
I never said they were, I said their origins can allow higher end feats than those with the origin of being genetically or fundamentally superior to humans.
Knight_Of_Steel wrote:
I have a lot to discuss with you about the rules Darth Nihilus.
There are a lot of flaws, I’ll start with the one that bugs me most.
People use the toon force, cartoons and other things of this sort in topics, but these topics never last very long.
There is a such thing as a feat of strength, and then there is a such thing as a ludicrously ridiculous joke of strength.
You can’t throw Superman taking a shit that can destroy the universe into a debate because it has no place there, certain things do, like Superman flying, or Buu regenerating, or Goku going SUper Saiyan.
Yes, I am picking and choosing what and what not to use in a versus debate, but certain things must be filtered for a civil discussion, you can keep most of Superman’s feats, like moving War World with heat vision, and Boo regenerating from a single cell, but other things are just too much to ask for, you can’t have Superman inside of a singularity.
Please, be reasonable.
There was one comic book where the Silver Surfer fought inside a singularity, please don’t use this situation as it has no place.
Some of it can be allowed via certain powers and abilities that would give them the ability to defy logic to a certain extent, like by completely mystical, or being of an origin that makes it possible for the laws of physics not to apply for some, and instance is Kid Buu or Mr. Mxy.
Please, Nihilus, we need to make a list of what can be allowed in a versus debate and what should be scorned.
Topics are topics, it doesn’t matter what character you use, lest it’s a joke, or serious topic.
Other than that, I am thinking of changing the rules some, just so we can actually have better debates and such.
Buster Sword wrote:
Lol Buu and Mxy are not in the same league.
I never said they were, I said their origins can allow higher end feats than those with the origin of being genetically or fundamentally superior to humans.
Yes of course, so long as it sawys DBZs way.
--- Possibly the quote of the week.
seed wrote:
WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
Buster Sword wrote:
Lol Buu and Mxy are not in the same league.
I never said they were, I said their origins can allow higher end feats than those with the origin of being genetically or fundamentally superior to humans.
Yes of course, so long as it sawys DBZs way.
Would you have a gorilla that’s weaker than a man?
A Super Saiyan is the out-come of the strongest alien out there, a kryptonian isn’t super for his kind at all.
Buu was created by magic to take over the universe, how are as many rules going to apply to him?????
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Last edited 20 Oct 2008 08:21 am by Knight_Of_Steel
Darth Nihilus wrote:
Topics are topics, it doesn’t matter what character you use,
It’s not the character, it’s his feats, after a certain point you MUST limit them yourself for a civil debate in order to have order, and not have an argument get people bannned, because it’s very frustrating to have a character of a rather puny origin using feats like some of Superman’s.
lest it’s a joke, or serious topic.
It’s always serious.
Other than that, I am thinking of changing the rules some, just so we can actually have better debates and such.
You did, but it had nothing to do with my complaints.
Certain origins should dictate which character wins, Buu was created by high end magic to take over the universe, Superman was an alien, who do you think wins?
It gets to the point where these feats of plot induced stupidity are so reused that I feel like calling them fanboys, regardless of how it turns out.
Please ban certain feats from certain characters!!!
Would you have a gorilla that’s weaker than a man?
Does fiction have to go by your golden book of science?
A Super Saiyan is the out-come of the strongest alien out there, a kryptonian isn’t super for his kind at all.
I’m sorry but that is utter crap, Saiyans maybe the strongest in DBZ, but that is it, they are nothing to Kryptonians and even further behind The New Gods.
Why isn’t s Kryptonian stronger than a Saiyan other than Bias?
Buu was created by magic to take over the universe, how are as many rules going to apply to him?????
He failed, so the rule of being beaten applies to him for one, I just love how you try to cover up your hypocrisy, the laws of physics apply to Superman because you obviously don’t want him to win, but just because Buu has the title Majin, he’s somehow Godly.
t’s not the character, it’s his feats, after a certain point you MUST limit them yourself for a civil debate in order to have order, and not have an argument get people bannned, because it’s very frustrating to have a character of a rather puny origin using feats like some of Superman’s.
There you go again, you are complaining about feats that trump DBZ’s, if this was the other way around, you wouldn’t say a damn thing, but because it goes against you, you are complaining. The only person not being civil in that thread was you, saying that I ride Superman’s bellend when I don’t even like him, the fact that it pisses you off he beats Goku, you resort to flaming. His origin has little to no effect of the outcome of the battle.
It’s always serious.
Actually no, you are basing that assumption on the fact that you are almost alway serious.
You did, but it had nothing to do with my complaints.
Certain origins should dictate which character wins, Buu was created by high end magic to take over the universe, Superman was an alien, who do you think wins?
It gets to the point where these feats of plot induced stupidity are so reused that I feel like calling them fanboys, regardless of how it turns out.
Please ban certain feats from certain characters!!!
I think Nihilus believes your complaints are not strong enough, as do I.
This translates as,
Buu was created by magical processes, so he should beat Superman by default. Superman is a Kryptonian and he should lose, because he has a natural birth.
This translates as,
I am frustrated because I can’t come up with a credible reason to discredit Superman’s durability so I tell Buster Sword he rides Supermans dick.
The last bit translates as,
Ban Superman’s laws of physical defying feats, so that my DBZ character can win, but keep Buu’s because he is magical, so I can apply every no limits fallacy because it’s “magic."
Nihilus, he is basically moaning because he can’t prove that Buu is more durable that Superman, (you know he isn’t, for he would not need regeneration if that was the case). So instead of accepting Superman’s durability, he will use the laws of physics to halt the debate, even though these characters aren’t real, he feels the need to restrict them, but at the same time keep no limits on the character he is debating for, so they can win.
It just shows that he is incapable of admitting that Superman is more durable to the point where he says I ride his cock (when you already know I don’t like the cunt).
I can’t think of anything else more to add other than KoS is extremely bias (everyone is to some degree, but his is so obvious).
Good night.
--- Possibly the quote of the week.
seed wrote:
WOW,locking the original topic?buster sword afraid of me that’s why he request to locked that.
It’s not the character, it’s his feats, after a certain point you MUST limit them yourself for a civil debate in order to have order, and not have an argument get people bannned, because it’s very frustrating to have a character of a rather puny origin using feats like some of Superman’s.
Read the rules, follow them, and you’ll be set.
It’s always serious.
You’ve never, ever heard of a joke thread, now have you?
You did, but it had nothing to do with my complaints.
Certain origins should dictate which character wins, Buu was created by high end magic to take over the universe, Superman was an alien, who do you think wins?
It gets to the point where these feats of plot induced stupidity are so reused that I feel like calling them fanboys, regardless of how it turns out.
Please ban certain feats from certain characters!!!
Limiting a certain character is up to the thread creator. Calling someone a fanboy is not going to help your chances in the debate at all, it can lower your chances of actually winning the debate, and/or lower your credibility.
Otherwise, tough shit.
Don’t like the new and improved rules, then leave. Kthxbai.
MAJIN BUU’S DURABILITY IS SHITTY. HE CANNOT EVEN WITHSTAND AN ATTACK FROM A SWORD IF YOU GO BY ANIME LOGIC. OTHER THAN THAT, HIS DURABILITY IS SHITTY. HE HAS TO RELY ON HIS REGENERATION JUST TO SURVIVE.
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