papamidmite420 wrote: ha pre crisis darkseid ran like a bitch from the anti-moniter get it right. i got the books he stayed in the backround till alex luthor used his interdeminisonal powers to funnel darkseid’s omega effect to the moniter. if that’s ur argument supergirl destroyed the moniter the first time he showed up. she owned him. and pre nothing darkseid can beat any superman since everytime they fight supes kicks his ass (like that little trip supes gave him to the source wall huh) please and tyrant at full power would destroy the anti moniter.in the end it took 1 man to beat the moniter. and the fact that galactus already beat darkseids ass ends that 1 about him not being as strong. dark pheonix already whooped his ass in that xmen crossover. and if he fought tyrant at full power that would b an error in judgement.

Itachi Uchiha wrote: Anti moniter is a being that absorbed not just galaxy but thousands of positive matter universe. What does Galactus do usually? Eat planet. Look around. People say Anti Monitor would kick Galactus. And Galactus fought post crisis darkseid.
Thanos is far away from Pre Crisis Darkseid.
Pre Crisis Darkseid could hurt Spectre(DC’s Living Tribunal)
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Thanos could kill Darkseid... Yes galactus only destroy planet but when he goes all the fight the entire galaxy would crumble...

Itachi Uchiha wrote: Anti moniter is a being that absorbed not just galaxy but thousands of positive matter universe. What does Galactus do usually? Eat planet. Look around. People say Anti Monitor would kick Galactus. And Galactus fought post crisis darkseid.
Thanos is far away from Pre Crisis Darkseid.
Pre Crisis Darkseid could hurt Spectre(DC’s Living Tribunal)
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Thanos could kill Darkseid... Yes galactus only destroy planet but when he goes all the fight the entire galaxy would crumble...

Itachi Uchiha wrote: Nope... i read a lot of X-Men and Marvel Super Comics... Including Spiderman..

FYI... Superman even could beat darkseid while thanos stronger than superman... superman event cant win againts silver surfer...

lionfranky wrote:
Current version? I agree. But pre crisis? Thanos doesn’t stand a chance. That’s why people find term “pre crisis” ridiculous.

papamidmite420 wrote: Itachi Uchiha wrote: Anti moniter is a being that absorbed not just galaxy but thousands of positive matter universe. What does Galactus do usually? Eat planet. Look around. People say Anti Monitor would kick Galactus. And Galactus fought post crisis darkseid.
Thanos is far away from Pre Crisis Darkseid.
Pre Crisis Darkseid could hurt Spectre(DC’s Living Tribunal)
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Thanos could kill Darkseid... Yes galactus only destroy planet but when he goes all the fight the entire galaxy would crumble...

I am sure MB told you about this before. Pre Crisis Darkseid could only be killed by his son Orion. Yes. Galactus' fight against Tyrant(full power) resulted in destruction of A galaxy. Anti Monitor destroyed/consumed thousands of universes and took numerous heroes simultaneously. Also, We all know that Pheonix is not in Spectre league. I can go on.
But I hope MB soon join this debate...

u dont know a god damn thang son the pheonix is the guardian of the god of the marvel universe. she is stronger than the tribunal. she’s the big bang son she can rip cut transport any piece of the universe she wants and im sorry but shazam a human with god magical powers hurt him too so dont get to cocky and if per crisis darkseid fought galactus since he is light years in power over the sky fathers the result would b the same. and im sorry to say but in the marvel universe there’s a place called the negative verse i know u heard of it cuz all the anti moniters anti matter would get absorbed into that universe since galactus can bring him there.


The Phoenix is virtualy omnipotent having the power to tap into the energy provided by life-force reserved for future generations, thus denying them existence. It can wield this energy to project beams of immense concussive force. It can transmigrate throughout time and space by folding its energy back into itself, causing it to collapse akin to a black hole. It then reforms itself upon reaching its destination. It can directly absorb energy such as Cyclops' optic blasts or the entire energy of a sun. It is also capable of absorbing the energy and life-force from a foe. The Phoenix Force can control life and death itself and is the Guardian of Creation. As it is the nexus of all psionic energy, it has mental abilities of cosmic scope, including telepathy and telekinesis, and cosmic abilities on a omniversal scale. Often seeks out hosts who have strong enough psionic abilities so they will be able to withstand the force’s power, such as that of Emma Frost who could not bear the burden of Phoenix’s hunger for human emotion when it bonded with her. [4] When the Phoenix Force enters a host, a fragment of its powers is left behind when it leaves. Even a small fragment can be stronger than an inexperienced host using the Phoenix’s powers, as seen by Rachel Summers, who had full access to the Force, but her opponent threw moons at her with only a fragment (the Phoenix Force decided to not interfere with mortal beings and only allowed Rachel to tap into the force’s powers at that time). When bonded with a host, the Phoenix Force amplifies their abilities to incalculable levels. It can manipulate matter on a sub-atomic level (e.g., turning wood to gold, stone to crystal, etc). It can teleport others across vast distances across space and can also open wormholes to access corners of the Universe. If the Phoenix Force is harmed or killed, it will form an “egg” of cosmic power, incubate in the White Hot Room, and hatch out completely healed. Also being one of the oldest cosmic beings the Phoenix possesses a degree of omniscience.

lionfranky wrote: I kept rolling at those who think that Galactus, Tyrant, Dark Phoenix, Thanos are on level of PRE CRISIS Darkseid. Yes. I heard that from CBUB, marvel home page.
Look at it. Tyrant at full power fought Galactus and destroyed A galaxy as side effect. Heck. Pre crisis Supes destroyed galaxy by sneezing and he was owned by Darkseid. We all know that Anti Monitor owns Galactus right? Pre Crisis Darkseid owned that dude.