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05 Apr 2008 03:55 am
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_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus Rhade wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote: mundus? you mean the fire demon boss? i dont know, i remember my friend keeps on blasting him with guns, shotgun included.

yes kratos might have a bit of trouble keeping up with the trickster style, but kratos do have an all around damage attack. he can hit anything around him. now for the guns, uhmmm, golden fleece. or, even his bow(it can make a tornado) dante is not the only one that has long range attacks. although kratos specializes in close-medium range combat.


Mundus is the angelic-looking guy at the end of DMC1, I think you might be thinking Despair Embodied in DMC2.

And Dante can close in from far range to close combat really quick, especially with trickster, and RG may even protect him entirely in close range.

oh right. mundus. sorry, it a very old game.LOL
yeah, but the point is, mundus and all the other bosses can be hurt by a shotgun.except virgil. his katana is bad ass.

RG style cant be broken? not even by a boss?

Like I said I don’t know if Mundus was ever hit with the shotgun, but it is his physical manifestation so it would be able to cause minor damage, much like it could to Zeus or the bosses of GOW.
(I’m guessing Capcom did this because some people like the shotgun, but yeah)

No. This is against the final DMC3 boss.

Also, you can tell how powerful Just Release is.

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Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus Rhade wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote: mundus? you mean the fire demon boss? i dont know, i remember my friend keeps on blasting him with guns, shotgun included.

yes kratos might have a bit of trouble keeping up with the trickster style, but kratos do have an all around damage attack. he can hit anything around him. now for the guns, uhmmm, golden fleece. or, even his bow(it can make a tornado) dante is not the only one that has long range attacks. although kratos specializes in close-medium range combat.


Mundus is the angelic-looking guy at the end of DMC1, I think you might be thinking Despair Embodied in DMC2.

And Dante can close in from far range to close combat really quick, especially with trickster, and RG may even protect him entirely in close range.

oh right. mundus. sorry, it a very old game.LOL
yeah, but the point is, mundus and all the other bosses can be hurt by a shotgun.except virgil. his katana is bad ass.

RG style cant be broken? not even by a boss?

Like I said I don’t know if Mundus was ever hit with the shotgun, but it is his physical manifestation so it would be able to cause minor damage, much like it could to Zeus or the bosses of GOW.
(I’m guessing Capcom did this because some people like the shotgun, but yeah)

No. This is against the final DMC3 boss.

Also, you can tell how powerful Just Release is.

well, you could shot him with a shotgun, it will do minor damage, but it will hurt him anyway. how could you tell zeus will be affected by it?

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05 Apr 2008 04:02 am
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_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus Rhade wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote: mundus? you mean the fire demon boss? i dont know, i remember my friend keeps on blasting him with guns, shotgun included.

yes kratos might have a bit of trouble keeping up with the trickster style, but kratos do have an all around damage attack. he can hit anything around him. now for the guns, uhmmm, golden fleece. or, even his bow(it can make a tornado) dante is not the only one that has long range attacks. although kratos specializes in close-medium range combat.


Mundus is the angelic-looking guy at the end of DMC1, I think you might be thinking Despair Embodied in DMC2.

And Dante can close in from far range to close combat really quick, especially with trickster, and RG may even protect him entirely in close range.

oh right. mundus. sorry, it a very old game.LOL
yeah, but the point is, mundus and all the other bosses can be hurt by a shotgun.except virgil. his katana is bad ass.

RG style cant be broken? not even by a boss?

Like I said I don’t know if Mundus was ever hit with the shotgun, but it is his physical manifestation so it would be able to cause minor damage, much like it could to Zeus or the bosses of GOW.
(I’m guessing Capcom did this because some people like the shotgun, but yeah)

No. This is against the final DMC3 boss.

Also, you can tell how powerful Just Release is.

well, you could shot him with a shotgun, it will do minor damage, but it will hurt him anyway. how could you tell zeus will be affected by it?


He was effected by getting crushed on rocks. What I mean is that it’s not like he’s shooting a ghost or something, he’s shooting something physical, and it’s going to take damage in some way.

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Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus Rhade wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote: mundus? you mean the fire demon boss? i dont know, i remember my friend keeps on blasting him with guns, shotgun included.

yes kratos might have a bit of trouble keeping up with the trickster style, but kratos do have an all around damage attack. he can hit anything around him. now for the guns, uhmmm, golden fleece. or, even his bow(it can make a tornado) dante is not the only one that has long range attacks. although kratos specializes in close-medium range combat.


Mundus is the angelic-looking guy at the end of DMC1, I think you might be thinking Despair Embodied in DMC2.

And Dante can close in from far range to close combat really quick, especially with trickster, and RG may even protect him entirely in close range.

oh right. mundus. sorry, it a very old game.LOL
yeah, but the point is, mundus and all the other bosses can be hurt by a shotgun.except virgil. his katana is bad ass.

RG style cant be broken? not even by a boss?

Like I said I don’t know if Mundus was ever hit with the shotgun, but it is his physical manifestation so it would be able to cause minor damage, much like it could to Zeus or the bosses of GOW.
(I’m guessing Capcom did this because some people like the shotgun, but yeah)

No. This is against the final DMC3 boss.

Also, you can tell how powerful Just Release is.

well, you could shot him with a shotgun, it will do minor damage, but it will hurt him anyway. how could you tell zeus will be affected by it?


He was effected by getting crushed on rocks. What I mean is that it’s not like he’s shooting a ghost or something, he’s shooting something physical, and it’s going to take damage in some way.

oh right. physical. well, he gets hurt from it anyway.

when was zeus being hurt by a rock?

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_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus Rhade wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote: mundus? you mean the fire demon boss? i dont know, i remember my friend keeps on blasting him with guns, shotgun included.

yes kratos might have a bit of trouble keeping up with the trickster style, but kratos do have an all around damage attack. he can hit anything around him. now for the guns, uhmmm, golden fleece. or, even his bow(it can make a tornado) dante is not the only one that has long range attacks. although kratos specializes in close-medium range combat.


Mundus is the angelic-looking guy at the end of DMC1, I think you might be thinking Despair Embodied in DMC2.

And Dante can close in from far range to close combat really quick, especially with trickster, and RG may even protect him entirely in close range.

oh right. mundus. sorry, it a very old game.LOL
yeah, but the point is, mundus and all the other bosses can be hurt by a shotgun.except virgil. his katana is bad ass.

RG style cant be broken? not even by a boss?

Like I said I don’t know if Mundus was ever hit with the shotgun, but it is his physical manifestation so it would be able to cause minor damage, much like it could to Zeus or the bosses of GOW.
(I’m guessing Capcom did this because some people like the shotgun, but yeah)

No. This is against the final DMC3 boss.

Also, you can tell how powerful Just Release is.

well, you could shot him with a shotgun, it will do minor damage, but it will hurt him anyway. how could you tell zeus will be affected by it?


He was effected by getting crushed on rocks. What I mean is that it’s not like he’s shooting a ghost or something, he’s shooting something physical, and it’s going to take damage in some way.

oh right. physical. well, he gets hurt from it anyway.

when was zeus being hurt by a rock?


Well not exactly hurt, but at the end of GOW2 he was thrown into several pillars and had the tops of them crash down on him. It effected him at the least.

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I’ve seen this thread multiple times.In nearly everyone its concluded that Dante would win.Dante has Kratos in everything except strength maybe.

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Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus Rhade wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote: mundus? you mean the fire demon boss? i dont know, i remember my friend keeps on blasting him with guns, shotgun included.

yes kratos might have a bit of trouble keeping up with the trickster style, but kratos do have an all around damage attack. he can hit anything around him. now for the guns, uhmmm, golden fleece. or, even his bow(it can make a tornado) dante is not the only one that has long range attacks. although kratos specializes in close-medium range combat.


Mundus is the angelic-looking guy at the end of DMC1, I think you might be thinking Despair Embodied in DMC2.

And Dante can close in from far range to close combat really quick, especially with trickster, and RG may even protect him entirely in close range.

oh right. mundus. sorry, it a very old game.LOL
yeah, but the point is, mundus and all the other bosses can be hurt by a shotgun.except virgil. his katana is bad ass.

RG style cant be broken? not even by a boss?

Like I said I don’t know if Mundus was ever hit with the shotgun, but it is his physical manifestation so it would be able to cause minor damage, much like it could to Zeus or the bosses of GOW.
(I’m guessing Capcom did this because some people like the shotgun, but yeah)

No. This is against the final DMC3 boss.

Also, you can tell how powerful Just Release is.

well, you could shot him with a shotgun, it will do minor damage, but it will hurt him anyway. how could you tell zeus will be affected by it?


He was effected by getting crushed on rocks. What I mean is that it’s not like he’s shooting a ghost or something, he’s shooting something physical, and it’s going to take damage in some way.

oh right. physical. well, he gets hurt from it anyway.

when was zeus being hurt by a rock?


Well not exactly hurt, but at the end of GOW2 he was thrown into several pillars and had the tops of them crash down on him. It effected him at the least.

zeus wanst hurt. he was under a rock, but hes not hurt.there is no evidence that shows he was affected.

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05 Apr 2008 10:22 pm
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Atresac wrote: jump should not be triangle.

I should also not be given a fucking sword and fucking guns left to kill zombified Pinocchios.

jump is X. triangle is for the sword.


No, if it was X I would not think the game is shit.

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_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus Rhade wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote: mundus? you mean the fire demon boss? i dont know, i remember my friend keeps on blasting him with guns, shotgun included.

yes kratos might have a bit of trouble keeping up with the trickster style, but kratos do have an all around damage attack. he can hit anything around him. now for the guns, uhmmm, golden fleece. or, even his bow(it can make a tornado) dante is not the only one that has long range attacks. although kratos specializes in close-medium range combat.


Mundus is the angelic-looking guy at the end of DMC1, I think you might be thinking Despair Embodied in DMC2.

And Dante can close in from far range to close combat really quick, especially with trickster, and RG may even protect him entirely in close range.

oh right. mundus. sorry, it a very old game.LOL
yeah, but the point is, mundus and all the other bosses can be hurt by a shotgun.except virgil. his katana is bad ass.

RG style cant be broken? not even by a boss?

Like I said I don’t know if Mundus was ever hit with the shotgun, but it is his physical manifestation so it would be able to cause minor damage, much like it could to Zeus or the bosses of GOW.
(I’m guessing Capcom did this because some people like the shotgun, but yeah)

No. This is against the final DMC3 boss.

Also, you can tell how powerful Just Release is.

well, you could shot him with a shotgun, it will do minor damage, but it will hurt him anyway. how could you tell zeus will be affected by it?


He was effected by getting crushed on rocks. What I mean is that it’s not like he’s shooting a ghost or something, he’s shooting something physical, and it’s going to take damage in some way.

oh right. physical. well, he gets hurt from it anyway.

when was zeus being hurt by a rock?


Well not exactly hurt, but at the end of GOW2 he was thrown into several pillars and had the tops of them crash down on him. It effected him at the least.

zeus wanst hurt. he was under a rock, but hes not hurt.there is no evidence that shows he was affected.


I said he may not have been hurt (as later he was stabbed with the blades of chaos but showed no wounds) but was effected. (had to lift the rocks off him etc.)

And atresac, you can change the controls buttons, so you don’t have to think the game is shit for that daft reason. The default is X being jump anyways and triangle the sword button.

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well, yeah, he lifted it off of him. but there is no evidence that he was affected. its like i want to stand up, but theres a pillow on top of me, what would i do? of course ill take it off of me.

but yeah, hes the only one i know that uses the triangle button to jump in DMC

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_hells_angel_ wrote: well, yeah, he lifted it off of him. but there is no evidence that he was affected. its like i want to stand up, but theres a pillow on top of me, what would i do? of course ill take it off of me.

but yeah, hes the only one i know that uses the triangle button to jump in DMC


Yeah, it’s that he isn’t a ghost or something, similar to the Devil’s that are hurt by the shotgun. It’s a physical object hitting a physical object, so they take damage. (small amounts of it, and capcom probably exaggerates the power of the shotgun in those circumstances to make it more useful)
Zeus might not take actual damage (anything significant), but he’ll still get hit by it and it’ll effect him a small amount because he’s a physical being, not a ghost that the shotgun can shoot through lol

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Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote: well, yeah, he lifted it off of him. but there is no evidence that he was affected. its like i want to stand up, but theres a pillow on top of me, what would i do? of course ill take it off of me.

but yeah, hes the only one i know that uses the triangle button to jump in DMC


Yeah, it’s that he isn’t a ghost or something, similar to the Devil’s that are hurt by the shotgun. It’s a physical object hitting a physical object, so they take damage. (small amounts of it, and capcom probably exaggerates the power of the shotgun in those circumstances to make it more useful)
Zeus might not take actual damage (anything significant), but he’ll still get hit by it and it’ll effect him a small amount because he’s a physical being, not a ghost that the shotgun can shoot through lol

hell touch the rock on top of him but it will not hurt him

unlike the boosses of DMC who are hurt. they can touch the bullet but they are hurt at the same time.

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_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote: well, yeah, he lifted it off of him. but there is no evidence that he was affected. its like i want to stand up, but theres a pillow on top of me, what would i do? of course ill take it off of me.

but yeah, hes the only one i know that uses the triangle button to jump in DMC


Yeah, it’s that he isn’t a ghost or something, similar to the Devil’s that are hurt by the shotgun. It’s a physical object hitting a physical object, so they take damage. (small amounts of it, and capcom probably exaggerates the power of the shotgun in those circumstances to make it more useful)
Zeus might not take actual damage (anything significant), but he’ll still get hit by it and it’ll effect him a small amount because he’s a physical being, not a ghost that the shotgun can shoot through lol

hell touch the rock on top of him but it will not hurt him

unlike the boosses of DMC who are hurt. they can touch the bullet but they are hurt at the same time.


But he’s being effected, it’s not just passing through him. He may not have shown any signs of damage from it (Mundus doesn’t either, and Zeus only seems fatigued after being stabbed with the Blades of Athena and the Blade of Olympus), but if he was shot with the shotgun it will hurt him like it damages anything physical.

Albeit that, we should remember it’s not Mundus vs Zeus but Dante vs Kratos, try and keep on track with the latter.

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Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote: well, yeah, he lifted it off of him. but there is no evidence that he was affected. its like i want to stand up, but theres a pillow on top of me, what would i do? of course ill take it off of me.

but yeah, hes the only one i know that uses the triangle button to jump in DMC


Yeah, it’s that he isn’t a ghost or something, similar to the Devil’s that are hurt by the shotgun. It’s a physical object hitting a physical object, so they take damage. (small amounts of it, and capcom probably exaggerates the power of the shotgun in those circumstances to make it more useful)
Zeus might not take actual damage (anything significant), but he’ll still get hit by it and it’ll effect him a small amount because he’s a physical being, not a ghost that the shotgun can shoot through lol

hell touch the rock on top of him but it will not hurt him

unlike the boosses of DMC who are hurt. they can touch the bullet but they are hurt at the same time.


But he’s being effected, it’s not just passing through him. He may not have shown any signs of damage from it (Mundus doesn’t either, and Zeus only seems fatigued after being stabbed with the Blades of Athena and the Blade of Olympus), but if he was shot with the shotgun it will hurt him like it damages anything physical.

Albeet that, we should remember it’s not Mundus vs Zeus but Dante vs Kratos, try and keep on track with the latter.

being affected=/=being hurt. why do you think zeus will be hurt by a shotgun? he was stabbed by the blade of olympus and he was fine(weakened but fine). i can affect any tangible things, that doesnt mean they can hurt me.

and the point is, dantes enemies are weaker than kratos enemies. kinda tell you whos more bad ass doesnt it?

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_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote: well, yeah, he lifted it off of him. but there is no evidence that he was affected. its like i want to stand up, but theres a pillow on top of me, what would i do? of course ill take it off of me.

but yeah, hes the only one i know that uses the triangle button to jump in DMC


Yeah, it’s that he isn’t a ghost or something, similar to the Devil’s that are hurt by the shotgun. It’s a physical object hitting a physical object, so they take damage. (small amounts of it, and capcom probably exaggerates the power of the shotgun in those circumstances to make it more useful)
Zeus might not take actual damage (anything significant), but he’ll still get hit by it and it’ll effect him a small amount because he’s a physical being, not a ghost that the shotgun can shoot through lol

hell touch the rock on top of him but it will not hurt him

unlike the boosses of DMC who are hurt. they can touch the bullet but they are hurt at the same time.


But he’s being effected, it’s not just passing through him. He may not have shown any signs of damage from it (Mundus doesn’t either, and Zeus only seems fatigued after being stabbed with the Blades of Athena and the Blade of Olympus), but if he was shot with the shotgun it will hurt him like it damages anything physical.

Albeet that, we should remember it’s not Mundus vs Zeus but Dante vs Kratos, try and keep on track with the latter.

being affected=/=being hurt. why do you think zeus will be hurt by a shotgun? he was stabbed by the blade of olympus and he was fine(weakened but fine). i can affect any tangible things, that doesnt mean they can hurt me.

and the point is, dantes enemies are weaker than kratos enemies. kinda tell you whos more bad ass doesnt it?


And Mundus' life bar after a shotgun hit is taken down perhaps a tenth of a pixel. Again, as I said before, it’s likely overpowered for the sake of having a more useful weapon.

But, you know, I wonder how Kratos is going to deal with Royal Guard. Especially if he’s so “bad ass” wink

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Tyreaus wrote: And atresac, you can change the controls buttons, so you don’t have to think the game is shit for that daft reason. The default is X being jump anyways and triangle the sword button.


I just started a new game and it’s definitely triangle defaulting to jump, with square and x both being to fire and circle swings your sword.

I don’t know what game you guys are playing, but even that can’t save this game in my eyes. Boring gameplay and shitty camera work are not excusable.

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Tyreaus wrote: And atresac, you can change the controls buttons, so you don’t have to think the game is shit for that daft reason. The default is X being jump anyways and triangle the sword button.


I just started a new game and it’s definitely triangle defaulting to jump, with square and x both being to fire and circle swings your sword.

I don’t know what game you guys are playing, but even that can’t save this game in my eyes. Boring gameplay and shitty camera work are not excusable.

then stop playing the game. play rpgs instead.

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Atresac wrote:
Tyreaus wrote: And atresac, you can change the controls buttons, so you don’t have to think the game is shit for that daft reason. The default is X being jump anyways and triangle the sword button.


I just started a new game and it’s definitely triangle defaulting to jump, with square and x both being to fire and circle swings your sword.

I don’t know what game you guys are playing, but even that can’t save this game in my eyes. Boring gameplay and shitty camera work are not excusable.


Probably changed the control scheme somehow, but I started with X being jump, so no idea what you’re doing.
Camera isn’t that great and the gameplay isn’t too boring (in DMC3 at least), but that’s all based off opinion anyway.

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Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
_hells_angel_ wrote: well, yeah, he lifted it off of him. but there is no evidence that he was affected. its like i want to stand up, but theres a pillow on top of me, what would i do? of course ill take it off of me.

but yeah, hes the only one i know that uses the triangle button to jump in DMC


Yeah, it’s that he isn’t a ghost or something, similar to the Devil’s that are hurt by the shotgun. It’s a physical object hitting a physical object, so they take damage. (small amounts of it, and capcom probably exaggerates the power of the shotgun in those circumstances to make it more useful)
Zeus might not take actual damage (anything significant), but he’ll still get hit by it and it’ll effect him a small amount because he’s a physical being, not a ghost that the shotgun can shoot through lol

hell touch the rock on top of him but it will not hurt him

unlike the boosses of DMC who are hurt. they can touch the bullet but they are hurt at the same time.


But he’s being effected, it’s not just passing through him. He may not have shown any signs of damage from it (Mundus doesn’t either, and Zeus only seems fatigued after being stabbed with the Blades of Athena and the Blade of Olympus), but if he was shot with the shotgun it will hurt him like it damages anything physical.

Albeet that, we should remember it’s not Mundus vs Zeus but Dante vs Kratos, try and keep on track with the latter.

being affected=/=being hurt. why do you think zeus will be hurt by a shotgun? he was stabbed by the blade of olympus and he was fine(weakened but fine). i can affect any tangible things, that doesnt mean they can hurt me.

and the point is, dantes enemies are weaker than kratos enemies. kinda tell you whos more bad ass doesnt it?


And Mundus' life bar after a shotgun hit is taken down perhaps a tenth of a pixel. Again, as I said before, it’s likely overpowered for the sake of having a more useful weapon.

But, you know, I wonder how Kratos is going to deal with Royal Guard. Especially if he’s so “bad ass” wink

it still hurt him. one pixel or not.

and i wonder how dante can survive the blade of olympus. not one titan escaped from it. and they were strong enough to fight gods. and they were even bigger. but ALL OF THEM ARE NO MATCH FOR THE BLADE. its like a a lot of titans in one blow weapon.

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_hells_angel_ wrote:
Atresac wrote:
Tyreaus wrote: And atresac, you can change the controls buttons, so you don’t have to think the game is shit for that daft reason. The default is X being jump anyways and triangle the sword button.


I just started a new game and it’s definitely triangle defaulting to jump, with square and x both being to fire and circle swings your sword.

I don’t know what game you guys are playing, but even that can’t save this game in my eyes. Boring gameplay and shitty camera work are not excusable.

then stop playing the game. play rpgs instead.

Thing is I want to enjoy the game, I really do. I spent money on it. I want to at least like this one because I have DMC3 sitting here as well, which I haven’t even played because I can’t stomach the first one.

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