god can’t handle or fail to handle anything as he is a pure concoction to allay the human species' inability to comprehend the ultimate terror of ceasing to exist when we die. no continuation. no reward. no ultimate justice.
that thought can really do your head in so you must make a tsar of the heavens to prevent insanity. order restored. daily contemplation of the ultimate futility of your existence nullified.
the reason he still made those people is because they had all the rights of other people they just chose to do wrong he knew u where going to do that but just because he knew wat would happen doesnt mean u dont deserve to be created
I thought I should mention something interesting that I read in a psychology book. It has to do with an experiment created by Benjamin Libet, a neurophysiologist who studied free will. Libet measured the response time between the moment the brain of a patient was stimulated and the time the patient became consciously aware of the stimulus. In other words, how long it took a person to realize that they made a certain action. In one of his experiments, when a volunteer was instructed to move a finger, the brain unconsciously initiated the movement even before the volunteer was aware that the finger had begun moving. The signals that come from the brain and tell the finger to move was already sent by the time the patient consciously decided to move it.
So what did this experiment show? It shows that the unconscious part of your mind (which you are not in control of) made the actual decision and the conscious mind (the part you are supposedly in control of) didn’t realize it until after the signals were sent.
So tell me, if every one of your actions are already sent by the time you consciously decide to make those actions, how do you have free will? I rest my case.
Actually some religion believe that God doesnt know everything. Example, God testing Abraham if he gonna sacrifice his son for Him. God didnt know if Abraham is gonna do it or not, that’s why it’s a test. I mean what’s the point of creating everything if you already know what’s gonna happen.
Does God already know, before I was even conceived by my parents, whether or not I’m going to Hell?
If he doesn’t know, then he is not limitless in his knowledge.
If he does know however... then he is creating people in full knowledge that they are damned.
Does God already know, before I was even conceived by my parents, whether or not I’m going to Hell?
If he doesn’t know, then he is not limitless in his knowledge.
If he does know however... then he is creating people in full knowledge that they are damned.
here’s an interesting way of looking at it that me and a few others came up with...(at least i think we did. i don’t remember hearing it anywhere).
take God out of the equation for a second. every time anyone is faced with a choice, we will chose one option. its inevitable. it could be either one, but it will only be one of the options. and, in the end, there will be only one result. so, now add God back into the equation. does having someone who can see all this change anything?
Khorib- now, THAT is the exact kinda thing that bothers me a lot. and, i don’t really have a good answer. the best i can come up with is that our salvation is in our hands. we have the option to accept God or to not. if we don’t, then its on our heads, not God’s. God creates everyone with this option, and even if some of us won’t choose it, he still is going to let it happen.
idk, i really don’t like that answer, but its the best i’ve come up with.
and, annother way of looking at this whole thing....
i think that there is a possibility that we are looking at this whole thing wrong. we are trying to apply human logic to a divine being. he isn’t so much going through time with us, looking ahead, or even ahead, looking back. he is outside all together. he sees the whole picture, and what choices we will chose to make.
tis an interesting concept, this pre destination thing.
kev360 wrote:
here’s an interesting way of looking at it that me and a few others came up with...(at least i think we did. i don’t remember hearing it anywhere).
take God out of the equation for a second. every time anyone is faced with a choice, we will chose one option. its inevitable. it could be either one, but it will only be one of the options. and, in the end, there will be only one result. so, now add God back into the equation. does having someone who can see all this change anything?
Khorib- now, THAT is the exact kinda thing that bothers me a lot. and, i don’t really have a good answer. the best i can come up with is that our salvation is in our hands. we have the option to accept God or to not. if we don’t, then its on our heads, not God’s. God creates everyone with this option, and even if some of us won’t choose it, he still is going to let it happen.
idk, i really don’t like that answer, but its the best i’ve come up with.
and, annother way of looking at this whole thing....
i think that there is a possibility that we are looking at this whole thing wrong. we are trying to apply human logic to a divine being. he isn’t so much going through time with us, looking ahead, or even ahead, looking back. he is outside all together. he sees the whole picture, and what choices we will chose to make.
tis an interesting concept, this pre destination thing.
that doesn’t really explain anything.
--- “Since the beginning of time twas written in the stones that one day a band would come. Well, that band has come and now they’re here to come again in your ear pussies.“
kev360 wrote:
here’s an interesting way of looking at it that me and a few others came up with...(at least i think we did. i don’t remember hearing it anywhere).
take God out of the equation for a second. every time anyone is faced with a choice, we will chose one option. its inevitable. it could be either one, but it will only be one of the options. and, in the end, there will be only one result. so, now add God back into the equation. does having someone who can see all this change anything?
Khorib- now, THAT is the exact kinda thing that bothers me a lot. and, i don’t really have a good answer. the best i can come up with is that our salvation is in our hands. we have the option to accept God or to not. if we don’t, then its on our heads, not God’s. God creates everyone with this option, and even if some of us won’t choose it, he still is going to let it happen.
idk, i really don’t like that answer, but its the best i’ve come up with.
and, annother way of looking at this whole thing....
i think that there is a possibility that we are looking at this whole thing wrong. we are trying to apply human logic to a divine being. he isn’t so much going through time with us, looking ahead, or even ahead, looking back. he is outside all together. he sees the whole picture, and what choices we will chose to make.
tis an interesting concept, this pre destination thing.
that doesn’t really explain anything.
my answers rarely do. my point normally is that you have to look at things for more then their face value. questions are rarely as simple as they are made out to be.
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