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09 Apr 2008 07:26 pm
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Dhem92 wrote: No, Kick, Push is his best song eva!


It’s good, but not my favorite.

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09 Jul 2008 09:10 pm
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Technically Lupe Fiasco Isnt The Best Yet But I Feel The Kid Got The Best Lyrics Out Since Nas Aint Drop Anything Dope Since Hip Hop Is Dead
Untitled Or Nigger To Some Of You Who Follow Nas Will Bring Back The Lyrics The Rapper Has
Lupe Fiasco Is One Of My Top Ten MC Followed By Nas Common Talib Kanye Mos Def And The Mighty Wu Tang
I Relate To Most Of Lupes Lyrics And I Can Reside Every Line And Fully Understand What Hes Talking About something new recording artist lack
I Listen To All Of Lupe Songs at first some i didnt really understand or like but after understanding the rhymes he spit you got to admit that Boy is dope YA DIGG

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10 Jul 2008 08:58 pm
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lupe is genius. hes growing on me.

but did anyone notice that the beat for intruder alert sounds just like hip hop saved my life.

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10 Jul 2008 08:59 pm
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speakerzz nli wrote: lupe is genius. hes growing on me.

but did anyone notice that the beat for intruder alert sounds just like hip hop saved my life.

...not really the same person probably produced the beat but theyre different

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my new favorite Lupe song....“He Say She Say”



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Vintage wrote: my new favorite Lupe song....“He Say She Say”



I’m digging that song.

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[Quote] #48
14 Jul 2008 11:52 pm
Ryan D.
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I think ya’ll kind of got off topic with lyrics. The best rappers lyrically would not include Lupe. If it did, he would be at the bottom of that shortlist.

Ahead of him would be (with examples):

GZA (Queen’s Gambit, Labels, or Fame)
Pharoahe Monch (Agent Orange)
Inspectah Deck (Triumph)
Nas (Tons of Songs; try “Rewind”wink
Canibus (Buckingham Palace)
AZ (Life’s a Bitch)
Black Thought (The Web)
Andre 3000 (Devin the Dude’s “What a Job)

Just listen to those songs and you’ll see what I’m talking about. I’m serious, open your mind.

Furthermore, Nas’s new album has tons of good songs that Lupe couldn’t touch. Decipher “Queens get the Money” for me...

By the way, that article you posted that went line by line was crap. Lupe’s lines were so ambiguous at points that it could be interpreted tons of ways (kind of reminds me of the bible...). Now don’t get me wrong. I really like Lupe, and I might put him in my top 10 emcees, but these guys are definitely ahead of him.

[Quote] #49
15 Jul 2008 01:33 am
Ryan D.
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And if you don’t buy my argument about that Lupe song breakdown, look at this then.

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First The LYRICS:

look here see, pretty mike shanked two face al
over some gal
find the body dead in the aisles
death by strangulation, microphone cord a dirty broad
guess theyll never play it again Sam
damn that was my jam
now she’s on the lamb
she made it out wit 200 grand
what a scam
while these two compete on who’s the star of the show
golden legs there makes off wit the doe
I read the paper there wit joe da butcher
he said “one glance is all it took ya, she’s a real looker
they say her old mans a bootlegger
transporting in any weather and at this rate we’ll never get her”
fellas think its time to call it a night
all this talk of this mystery dames gettin me tight
thought I saw her in my eyesight, right
hate to spoil the party
what are you guys havin? the same?
waiter another round for the gang
its strange how I always felt outta place
joe da butchers my ace, but in comes freckle face
so I said see you later
fore hurt him and his two ugly thumb breakers
met them in louisiana wrestling gators
and any idiot can tell there involved wit the caper
so I pulled the revolver on my waist up
between the patrol car and the grey truck behind the streetlamp was a silouhette
white gloves and a real long cigarette
whattya ya know all this time she’s got me in her scope
she spoke says " the devils got you guys be the throat
your conspiracy theories won’t work without evidence
that’s the reason why eric b is not president”

ya see?

look here see, I know you got soul your trying to hide it
how did you kill a man out in cypress?
one eyed charlie
he only hangs with the criminal minded
says you guys did it doggystyle is he lyin?
she says " walk this way ill tell you a childrens story
we hit the bodega got her a few 40s
we jumped in my ride
we drove and she cried
twist off the cap there and opened her mouth wide
swallowed it
whole bottles half empty
drinks like a fish, now she’s past tipsy
truth came out as we got to her suave house
chopped and screwed her mouth and sat me on the couch
I said its gettin late cmon give it to me straight
who’s ya sponsor lady?
she says bill gates
whattya born 77? 78?
she says “nah it goes way to an earlier date, slave times
claims the slaves said rhymes but she fell in love wit some fella named clive
who?
clive campbell from sedgwick ave, the bronx
now she shows me the cash
I said who’s clive? don’t play wit me skirt!
she said clive campbell.....he’s kool herc

Ahaaa Ahaaaaa

listen up sweetheart, now we gettin somewhere
as she’s talkin she starts vanishing in thin air
but before she drops the money bag on the floor and died
she said if you really love me, ill come back alive

— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
SYNOPSIS

Now lets get some things straight since its a story there’s characters, setting and plot

the plot is who killed hip-hop?

the setting is 1930s the golden era; the manifestation of jazz, mobsters, bootlegging and organized crime

the characters are nas the detective and his partner joe da butcher

freckle face who is joe da butchers connection to the underworld

and hip-hop who is the girl in the story a.k.a. the gal

now what happens is pretty mike and two face al kill each other and the gal runs off with the money

pretty mike and two face al are B.I.G. & Tupac and its a psuedonym for Hip-Hop maximizing its commercialism which is why the gal runs off with the money

the murder of two face al is directly referencing tupac dying first

now this all occured at some club where the classic jams go on sung by the gal

that is why nas says damn that was my jam because she will never be singing there again

the setting is further portrayed through the uses of a microphone cord as the murder weapon and the fact the body was found in the aisle

Now, Joe Da Butchers represent the average hip-hop listener

His name simply breaks down to joe a.k.a. the average joe schmo and da butcher part is a reference to “chewing the fat” which means just kicking simple convo chillin

Now after joe mentions to nas that he realizes he’s falling for her nas hits the bar a lil aggitated.

He realizes its the same scene at the bar but says fuck it and drinks are on him. That represents nas going commercial and he admits it, but tries to counteract that by saying “but I always felt outta place” which means he sold out but still puts out real Hip-Hop.

The symbolism in the bar scene is that joe the da butcher is nas partner but his southern connects (freckle face and company) are involved wit this crime

joe is none the wiser a.k.a. the average listener supports southern music regardless of all this south trash talk (jeezy,ludacris,lil jon,rick ross)

nas gets a lil ticked off and heads outside and realizes the gal has been trailin him the whole time

that’s basically saying that even though he didn’t know it, Hip-Hop HAS been followin him for a while

next thing she steps out the shadow and he says “all this time she had me in her scope”

in her scope = interscope
nas starts the story saying “death by strangulation” but “death” = Def(Jam)

Basically he was saying that Def Jam started the “killing” (when it commercialized hip-hop) and now interscope
runs it

at this point he is saying the Crackers took control of the art hence the reference to “Conspiracy Theories” behind this “whodunit”

“that’s why Eric B is not president” pretty much sums it up

so Def Jam chokeholded the game and then other labels like universal picked it up.

at this point nas has some evidence so he starts interrogating the broad

“I know you have soul quit tryin to hide it” is obviously saying that hip-hop has soul but its obscured by the commercialism

NaS uses the interrogation wisely by bringing up cypress hill and snoop dogg referencing the classics just flippin the phrases

If you can’t figure this out then your pretty fuckin stupid:

She (Hip-Hop) supposedly killed a man in cypress - Cypress Hill “How I could just kill a man”.

(Alternate Meaning/Possible Reference: When “she” {Hip-Hop} supposedly killed a man in cypress it could also be a reference to the end of the The Bridge Wars and the Death of DJ Scott LaRock. The Bridge Wars was a Hip-Hop rivalry during the mid-to-late 1980s and early 1990s, that arose from a dispute over the true birthplace of hip hop music and retaliation over the rejecting of a record for airplay. The Bridge Wars originally involved The South Bronx’s Boogie Down Productions, led by KRS-One, and Marley Marl’s Juice Crew, hailing from Queensbridge. The rivalry resulted in DJ Scott LaRock being killed in the South Bronx, Cypress Projects....but I think there’s a Cypress Projects in B.K so i’m not sure.....Nevertheless the The Bridge Wars was the beginning of the BEEF Era when Hip-Hop started gettin' Violent over lyrics)


And one eyed charlie (krs-one) who only hangs with the criminal minded (BDP) said they did it doggystyle (snoop dogg) but obviously referencing sex

at this point she puts everything in perspective for nas IN ORDER because nas was out of chronological order by mentioning 92 then 91 then 88:

so she begins by asking him to “walk this way” (run dmc) and she will tell him a childrens story (slick rick)

this is starting out raw hip-hop in the 80s

“got her a few 40s” is now referencing the west coast era domination as well hoppin in the “ride”

at this point hip-hop started losing “it” because it was being bombarded by commercial gangsterism and losing its origins

The getting “tipsy” part refers to hip-hop totally losing control and becoming almost completely pop (the bad boy era). It can also be a refference to J-Kwon and the beat he sampled which NaS is rappin' over.



“as we got to her suave house chopped and screwed her mouth” is now moving on to the south moving on in at the close of the shiny suit era and is cleverly flipped to nas getting oral sex by hip-hop he finally gave in

after he fucks her, she spills the beans and tells him that Bill Gates sponsored her to destroy hip-hop through means of downloading and extreme piracy

Remember, hip-hop’s father was a bootlegger and now her sponsor is one of the largest helpers in the creation of bootlegging

at this point she just breaks down and admits she is IMMORTAL because no regular human could be alive in BOTH slave times AND the Present.

she says she came from that era and had many lovers since but her one true love was kool herc (pioneer of hip-hop, some say sole creator)

But then she obviously fucked him over and fell to the pressure of the root of all evil, money (the 200 grand) (by the way 200 grand in 1930 is worth MILLIONS)

At this point the gig is up and she begins to fade away magically but lets NaS know it’s his inner spirit that really keeps hip-hop alive.

She really didn’t need the money in the End

[Quote] #50
15 Jul 2008 01:35 am
Ryan D.
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Sorry. Video didn’t work.

The name of the song is “Who Killed It” by Nas.

Look it up on youtube.

[Quote] #51
15 Jul 2008 05:01 pm
Mikey G
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Lupe’s last couple of albums have been the best thing to come out of hiphop in a while.. Anyone heard Nas’s new album its woeful.. And as far as great lyricists at the moment go why has noone mentioned Royce 5’9 ?

[Quote] #52
01 Aug 2008 12:47 am
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i totally feel what your saying lupe is a lyrical genious. you cant find anyone else who weaves as many metaphors and stories and subliminal messages in their raps while still coming up with ingenious rhymes. lupe is definitely one of the best i agree but i think eminem beats him out. eminem rapped with many purposes, had genious rhymes, stories, and could freestyle. to call them the best rapper they have to take on the mainstream, while also being able to rap with a purpose, and also freestyle. tupac and biggie are the best at some of those things, but all around best rapper i’d say goes to eminem with lupe close behind

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Ryan D. wrote: I think ya’ll kind of got off topic with lyrics. The best rappers lyrically would not include Lupe. If it did, he would be at the bottom of that shortlist.

Ahead of him would be (with examples):

GZA (Queen’s Gambit, Labels, or Fame)
Pharoahe Monch (Agent Orange)
Inspectah Deck (Triumph)
Nas (Tons of Songs; try “Rewind”wink
Canibus (Buckingham Palace)
AZ (Life’s a Bitch)
Black Thought (The Web)
Andre 3000 (Devin the Dude’s “What a Job)

Just listen to those songs and you’ll see what I’m talking about. I’m serious, open your mind.

Furthermore, Nas’s new album has tons of good songs that Lupe couldn’t touch. Decipher “Queens get the Money” for me...

By the way, that article you posted that went line by line was crap. Lupe’s lines were so ambiguous at points that it could be interpreted tons of ways (kind of reminds me of the bible...). Now don’t get me wrong. I really like Lupe, and I might put him in my top 10 emcees, but these guys are definitely ahead of him.



While I do admit that you provide a very good argument and all of the MCs on your list have all of my respect,I think the only ones that are with Lupe on that lyrical level are Andre 3000 and Nas...Gza has good rhyme schemes but I find his metaphors and similes to be rather basic..Canibus just uses big words with no substance and very limited subject matter..I dont listen to much of Deck but from the few verses I’ve heard,he’s good,but not great..Az is inconsistent..Black Thought is very good however I wasn’t feelin the “RIsing Down” album this year..Pharoah Monch could be up with Lupe,Nas,and Andre 3k,but I think he’s too much of an aquired taste...

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[Quote] #54
10 Sep 2008 05:38 pm
Brooklyn Don
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Vintage wrote: Weird Guy, i respect the fact that you’re up on that real underground hip hop but some of the people you named will just never make it into the light, you know?..My friend from down the block might have the greatest flow,multies,mettas, and punchlines u ever heard in you’re life but they just don’t appeal to a lot of people..AZ is cool but I do think he is kind of Overrated as a hip hop figure..I like Blu and Exile though, I must say..You put me on to them and i think if any of the people you named can really blow up, it would be them..What’s your favorite off of Below the Heavens?



Actually AZ is VERY UNDERRATED as a hip hop figure.....

[Quote] #55
10 Sep 2008 05:43 pm
Brooklyn Don
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Ryan D. wrote: And if you don’t buy my argument about that Lupe song breakdown, look at this then.

<object width=“425” height=“344”><param name=“movie” value=“http://www.youtube.com/v/m3VKB9VNNrU&hl=en&fs=1”></param><param name=“allowFullScreen” value=“true”></param><embed src=“http://www.youtube.com/v/m3VKB9VNNrU&hl=en&fs=1” type=“application/x-shockwave-flash” allowfullscreen=“true” width=“425” height=“344”></embed></object>

First The LYRICS:

look here see, pretty mike shanked two face al
over some gal
find the body dead in the aisles
death by strangulation, microphone cord a dirty broad
guess theyll never play it again Sam
damn that was my jam
now she’s on the lamb
she made it out wit 200 grand
what a scam
while these two compete on who’s the star of the show
golden legs there makes off wit the doe
I read the paper there wit joe da butcher
he said “one glance is all it took ya, she’s a real looker
they say her old mans a bootlegger
transporting in any weather and at this rate we’ll never get her”
fellas think its time to call it a night
all this talk of this mystery dames gettin me tight
thought I saw her in my eyesight, right
hate to spoil the party
what are you guys havin? the same?
waiter another round for the gang
its strange how I always felt outta place
joe da butchers my ace, but in comes freckle face
so I said see you later
fore hurt him and his two ugly thumb breakers
met them in louisiana wrestling gators
and any idiot can tell there involved wit the caper
so I pulled the revolver on my waist up
between the patrol car and the grey truck behind the streetlamp was a silouhette
white gloves and a real long cigarette
whattya ya know all this time she’s got me in her scope
she spoke says " the devils got you guys be the throat
your conspiracy theories won’t work without evidence
that’s the reason why eric b is not president”

ya see?

look here see, I know you got soul your trying to hide it
how did you kill a man out in cypress?
one eyed charlie
he only hangs with the criminal minded
says you guys did it doggystyle is he lyin?
she says " walk this way ill tell you a childrens story
we hit the bodega got her a few 40s
we jumped in my ride
we drove and she cried
twist off the cap there and opened her mouth wide
swallowed it
whole bottles half empty
drinks like a fish, now she’s past tipsy
truth came out as we got to her suave house
chopped and screwed her mouth and sat me on the couch
I said its gettin late cmon give it to me straight
who’s ya sponsor lady?
she says bill gates
whattya born 77? 78?
she says “nah it goes way to an earlier date, slave times
claims the slaves said rhymes but she fell in love wit some fella named clive
who?
clive campbell from sedgwick ave, the bronx
now she shows me the cash
I said who’s clive? don’t play wit me skirt!
she said clive campbell.....he’s kool herc

Ahaaa Ahaaaaa

listen up sweetheart, now we gettin somewhere
as she’s talkin she starts vanishing in thin air
but before she drops the money bag on the floor and died
she said if you really love me, ill come back alive

— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
SYNOPSIS

Now lets get some things straight since its a story there’s characters, setting and plot

the plot is who killed hip-hop?

the setting is 1930s the golden era; the manifestation of jazz, mobsters, bootlegging and organized crime

the characters are nas the detective and his partner joe da butcher

freckle face who is joe da butchers connection to the underworld

and hip-hop who is the girl in the story a.k.a. the gal

now what happens is pretty mike and two face al kill each other and the gal runs off with the money

pretty mike and two face al are B.I.G. & Tupac and its a psuedonym for Hip-Hop maximizing its commercialism which is why the gal runs off with the money

the murder of two face al is directly referencing tupac dying first

now this all occured at some club where the classic jams go on sung by the gal

that is why nas says damn that was my jam because she will never be singing there again

the setting is further portrayed through the uses of a microphone cord as the murder weapon and the fact the body was found in the aisle

Now, Joe Da Butchers represent the average hip-hop listener

His name simply breaks down to joe a.k.a. the average joe schmo and da butcher part is a reference to “chewing the fat” which means just kicking simple convo chillin

Now after joe mentions to nas that he realizes he’s falling for her nas hits the bar a lil aggitated.

He realizes its the same scene at the bar but says fuck it and drinks are on him. That represents nas going commercial and he admits it, but tries to counteract that by saying “but I always felt outta place” which means he sold out but still puts out real Hip-Hop.

The symbolism in the bar scene is that joe the da butcher is nas partner but his southern connects (freckle face and company) are involved wit this crime

joe is none the wiser a.k.a. the average listener supports southern music regardless of all this south trash talk (jeezy,ludacris,lil jon,rick ross)

nas gets a lil ticked off and heads outside and realizes the gal has been trailin him the whole time

that’s basically saying that even though he didn’t know it, Hip-Hop HAS been followin him for a while

next thing she steps out the shadow and he says “all this time she had me in her scope”

in her scope = interscope
nas starts the story saying “death by strangulation” but “death” = Def(Jam)

Basically he was saying that Def Jam started the “killing” (when it commercialized hip-hop) and now interscope
runs it

at this point he is saying the Crackers took control of the art hence the reference to “Conspiracy Theories” behind this “whodunit”

“that’s why Eric B is not president” pretty much sums it up

so Def Jam chokeholded the game and then other labels like universal picked it up.

at this point nas has some evidence so he starts interrogating the broad

“I know you have soul quit tryin to hide it” is obviously saying that hip-hop has soul but its obscured by the commercialism

NaS uses the interrogation wisely by bringing up cypress hill and snoop dogg referencing the classics just flippin the phrases

If you can’t figure this out then your pretty fuckin stupid:

She (Hip-Hop) supposedly killed a man in cypress - Cypress Hill “How I could just kill a man”.

(Alternate Meaning/Possible Reference: When “she” {Hip-Hop} supposedly killed a man in cypress it could also be a reference to the end of the The Bridge Wars and the Death of DJ Scott LaRock. The Bridge Wars was a Hip-Hop rivalry during the mid-to-late 1980s and early 1990s, that arose from a dispute over the true birthplace of hip hop music and retaliation over the rejecting of a record for airplay. The Bridge Wars originally involved The South Bronx’s Boogie Down Productions, led by KRS-One, and Marley Marl’s Juice Crew, hailing from Queensbridge. The rivalry resulted in DJ Scott LaRock being killed in the South Bronx, Cypress Projects....but I think there’s a Cypress Projects in B.K so i’m not sure.....Nevertheless the The Bridge Wars was the beginning of the BEEF Era when Hip-Hop started gettin' Violent over lyrics)


And one eyed charlie (krs-one) who only hangs with the criminal minded (BDP) said they did it doggystyle (snoop dogg) but obviously referencing sex

at this point she puts everything in perspective for nas IN ORDER because nas was out of chronological order by mentioning 92 then 91 then 88:

so she begins by asking him to “walk this way” (run dmc) and she will tell him a childrens story (slick rick)

this is starting out raw hip-hop in the 80s

“got her a few 40s” is now referencing the west coast era domination as well hoppin in the “ride”

at this point hip-hop started losing “it” because it was being bombarded by commercial gangsterism and losing its origins

The getting “tipsy” part refers to hip-hop totally losing control and becoming almost completely pop (the bad boy era). It can also be a refference to J-Kwon and the beat he sampled which NaS is rappin' over.



“as we got to her suave house chopped and screwed her mouth” is now moving on to the south moving on in at the close of the shiny suit era and is cleverly flipped to nas getting oral sex by hip-hop he finally gave in

after he fucks her, she spills the beans and tells him that Bill Gates sponsored her to destroy hip-hop through means of downloading and extreme piracy

Remember, hip-hop’s father was a bootlegger and now her sponsor is one of the largest helpers in the creation of bootlegging

at this point she just breaks down and admits she is IMMORTAL because no regular human could be alive in BOTH slave times AND the Present.

she says she came from that era and had many lovers since but her one true love was kool herc (pioneer of hip-hop, some say sole creator)

But then she obviously fucked him over and fell to the pressure of the root of all evil, money (the 200 grand) (by the way 200 grand in 1930 is worth MILLIONS)

At this point the gig is up and she begins to fade away magically but lets NaS know it’s his inner spirit that really keeps hip-hop alive.

She really didn’t need the money in the End


NICE

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Mikey G wrote: Lupe’s last couple of albums have been the best thing to come out of hiphop in a while.. Anyone heard Nas’s new album its woeful.. And as far as great lyricists at the moment go why has noone mentioned Royce 5’9 ?

Royce da 5’9 is great forreal especially bad meets evil Eminem feat. Royce da 5’9

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[Quote] #57
29 Sep 2008 02:53 pm
KidChild Hayden
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Lupe Fiasco is the best ever. I’ve been listening to hip hop for the past 10 years. (not the songs in the last 10 years). Lupe can cover every aspect of music, culture, life, everything! and mtell it like any other person has ever done before.
Alone he has over 15 mixtapes in the span of 3 years
Alone he has grammy nominations and wins

and now I’m going to give an example of each aspect he can cover

Gangster rap- Pop Pop

Girl Tracks- Paris Tokyo, Intruder Alert, And he gets the girl

Fun Tracks (still lyrical)- Everybody Nose (REMIX),

Freestyling- Lu Myself, Dead Presidents

Straight Lyrical- Dumb It Down, Failure

Puns- Phat Joe, Gotta Eat

Concepts- Conflict Diamonds, American Terrorist,

Something for the street- Hustlers Song

The thing is I have not heard all of the songs. You tell me who has a rap sheet longer than his on all subjectory. These are just mere examples, You have not heard everything. And of course all rappers can do all subjects. But the way Lupe does it is extraordinary and goes abouve the extra mile.

Nas cannot do all subjects like lupe can. Lupe has been sucessfull on the current mainstream level with his single “superstar” while still having a concept. Nas' has had “Hip hop is dead”, “Can’t forget about you”, and “Hero” in which none have been sucessful but have been lyrical. Nas is a all time great, but not better than Lupe.

B.I.G and Tupac are all time greats. But it’s BIG’s swag that makes him great. It wasnt necassarily his lyrics that were the greatest things. It was his delivery and how he said it, and his voice. Tupac is way overated, not the most lyrical rappers, one of the realest though. I have multiple albums of both big and pac, but they cannot compare to Lupe.

Eminem can hold a candle to lupe, but Lupe still surpasses him. Eminem can cover all topics, but does not have the puns, and wordplay to catch Lupe.

I’m Sorry But Lupe Fiasco is the Best rapper EVER!

And I’m a pretty good rapper my damn self.

My opinion is greater because... www.myspace.com/kidchildhayden

Im a hip hop great myself at my age. When I listen to Lupe..... I get mad cuz I can never catch the lyrical abiltiy. He’s my main inspiration, and that is that

Lupe is it.

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KidChild Hayden wrote: Lupe Fiasco is the best ever. I’ve been listening to hip hop for the past 10 years. (not the songs in the last 10 years). Lupe can cover every aspect of music, culture, life, everything! and mtell it like any other person has ever done before.
Alone he has over 15 mixtapes in the span of 3 years
Alone he has grammy nominations and wins

and now I’m going to give an example of each aspect he can cover

Gangster rap- Pop Pop

Girl Tracks- Paris Tokyo, Intruder Alert, And he gets the girl

Fun Tracks (still lyrical)- Everybody Nose (REMIX),

Freestyling- Lu Myself, Dead Presidents

Straight Lyrical- Dumb It Down, Failure

Puns- Phat Joe, Gotta Eat

Concepts- Conflict Diamonds, American Terrorist,

Something for the street- Hustlers Song

The thing is I have not heard all of the songs. You tell me who has a rap sheet longer than his on all subjectory. These are just mere examples, You have not heard everything. And of course all rappers can do all subjects. But the way Lupe does it is extraordinary and goes abouve the extra mile.

Nas cannot do all subjects like lupe can. Lupe has been sucessfull on the current mainstream level with his single “superstar” while still having a concept. Nas' has had “Hip hop is dead”, “Can’t forget about you”, and “Hero” in which none have been sucessful but have been lyrical. Nas is a all time great, but not better than Lupe.

B.I.G and Tupac are all time greats. But it’s BIG’s swag that makes him great. It wasnt necassarily his lyrics that were the greatest things. It was his delivery and how he said it, and his voice. Tupac is way overated, not the most lyrical rappers, one of the realest though. I have multiple albums of both big and pac, but they cannot compare to Lupe.

Eminem can hold a candle to lupe, but Lupe still surpasses him. Eminem can cover all topics, but does not have the puns, and wordplay to catch Lupe.

I’m Sorry But Lupe Fiasco is the Best rapper EVER!

And I’m a pretty good rapper my damn self.

My opinion is greater because... www.myspace.com/kidchildhayden

Im a hip hop great myself at my age. When I listen to Lupe..... I get mad cuz I can never catch the lyrical abiltiy. He’s my main inspiration, and that is that

Lupe is it.


Damn. I’m listening to your music vid on your Myspace page. Kid, you have talent. You will go somewhere one day. Seriously.

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KidChild Hayden wrote: Lupe Fiasco is the best ever. I’ve been listening to hip hop for the past 10 years. (not the songs in the last 10 years). Lupe can cover every aspect of music, culture, life, everything! and mtell it like any other person has ever done before.
Alone he has over 15 mixtapes in the span of 3 years
Alone he has grammy nominations and wins

and now I’m going to give an example of each aspect he can cover

Gangster rap- Pop Pop

Girl Tracks- Paris Tokyo, Intruder Alert, And he gets the girl

Fun Tracks (still lyrical)- Everybody Nose (REMIX),

Freestyling- Lu Myself, Dead Presidents

Straight Lyrical- Dumb It Down, Failure

Puns- Phat Joe, Gotta Eat

Concepts- Conflict Diamonds, American Terrorist,

Something for the street- Hustlers Song

The thing is I have not heard all of the songs. You tell me who has a rap sheet longer than his on all subjectory. These are just mere examples, You have not heard everything. And of course all rappers can do all subjects. But the way Lupe does it is extraordinary and goes abouve the extra mile.

Nas cannot do all subjects like lupe can. Lupe has been sucessfull on the current mainstream level with his single “superstar” while still having a concept. Nas' has had “Hip hop is dead”, “Can’t forget about you”, and “Hero” in which none have been sucessful but have been lyrical. Nas is a all time great, but not better than Lupe.

B.I.G and Tupac are all time greats. But it’s BIG’s swag that makes him great. It wasnt necassarily his lyrics that were the greatest things. It was his delivery and how he said it, and his voice. Tupac is way overated, not the most lyrical rappers, one of the realest though. I have multiple albums of both big and pac, but they cannot compare to Lupe.

Eminem can hold a candle to lupe, but Lupe still surpasses him. Eminem can cover all topics, but does not have the puns, and wordplay to catch Lupe.

I’m Sorry But Lupe Fiasco is the Best rapper EVER!

And I’m a pretty good rapper my damn self.

My opinion is greater because... www.myspace.com/kidchildhayden

Im a hip hop great myself at my age. When I listen to Lupe..... I get mad cuz I can never catch the lyrical abiltiy. He’s my main inspiration, and that is that

Lupe is it.



you are way over your head buddy. lupe isn’t that successful mainstream-wise, hence the song dumb it down. nas’s made you look was a hit and so was i can. the whole it was written album was a hit.

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