| 07 Jul 2008 10:36 am |
Ryo Ketchum Guest | Apile-Li wrote:
Okay just by putting them in a brawl fight,Captian America
would beat Batman if both of them did not have weapons.Yes I know Batman is more skilled and all that,but Cap is more stronger and faster (which is why he should dodge blows from Batman with ease).Who do you think would get damaged the most if one of them had to punch each other the hardest?
Good question
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| 08 Jul 2008 05:56 am |
Apile-Li Guest | Okay I get what your saying,yes Batman would recieve more damage than Captian America.Look I’m
well aware Captian America is stronger and faster
than Batman,but what I’m trying to say is...hey wait...did I say Captian America is faster than Batman? Oh this is the “speed” factor we are on hear right? I want to get at that.Why are you saying Batman can’t touch Captian America (let alone hurt Cap with his punches)? I know you keep
saying that because you say Captian America has dodged blows from Spider-Man...so whats so special about Spider-Man anyway? What’s so important on Captian America dodging blows from Spiderman that Batman can’t hit him.
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| 08 Jul 2008 08:01 am |
Regular Rep: 0 Joined: 02 Jun 2008 Posts: 188 OFFLINE | I think if Cap hrows his shield hard enough, it could actually knock Batsy unconscious...though due to the fact thats unlikely to happen I’m still going with Captain America, he’s stronger, faster, and has trained in many hand to hand combat styles, the shield could block many of Batman’s gadgets. Though I gotta say Batman is the better strategist, however I think Captain America is overall more powerful. I mean I think the Joker could defeat Cap, but hey, this is Batman.
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| 08 Jul 2008 01:46 pm |
Ragnar Fortiscue Guest | Apile-Li wrote:
Okay I get what your saying,yes Batman would recieve more damage than Captian America.Look I’m
well aware Captian America is stronger and faster
than Batman,but what I’m trying to say is...hey wait...did I say Captian America is faster than Batman? Oh this is the “speed” factor we are on hear right? I want to get at that.Why are you saying Batman can’t touch Captian America (let alone hurt Cap with his punches)? I know you keep
saying that because you say Captian America has dodged blows from Spider-Man...so whats so special about Spider-Man anyway? What’s so important on Captian America dodging blows from Spiderman that Batman can’t hit him.
It’s really simple...but I’m glad you asked that question.Like I said before (since this is the second time your asking me this question) that if
Captian America can actually “dodge” blows from Spiderman then surley he should dodge Batman’s blows with ease.Remember Spiderman is faster than
Batman by the way
So answering your question on what’s so special about Captian America dodging Spiderman’s blows.
It is very unlikely to hit Spiderman in hand to hand combat,he is Marvel’s greatest dodger.He can
dodge bullets and most Marvel heroes (and villians) have a difficult time laying a hand on him.Captian America is one of the few heroes in Marvel who can lay on Spidey (who is 15 times faster than a human being).Cap has faced Spidey on many occassions like the Civil War issue,he dodged every blow Spidey landed on him.Could Batman do that? Can Batman dodge Spiderman’s blows? Can he trade punches with the Web Slinger?
No he can’t.But Cap can.So Batman shouldn’t be a problem to Captian America.
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| 09 Jul 2008 01:45 pm |
Ryo Ketchum Guest | You know if I havn’t said this before then I have said it too many times often-HE HAS A POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 10 Jul 2008 05:52 am |
Apile-Li Guest | Ryo Ketchum wrote:
You know if I havn’t said this before then I have said it too many times often-HE HAS A POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay I now get what he was trying to say.I guess it makes sense if Captian America can dodge Spiderman’s attacks then he should easly dodge Batman’s attacks.But theres something you guys have to realize,Spiderman isn’t skilled.He doesn’t even know any form of combat,he just kicks and punches,and all those “non skills” are powered with super “spider” strength,webbing and agility.Batman knows how to fight,he can use some
deadly attacks to the human body that can actually hurt Captian America.That’s why Batman worn Cap out in the DC/Marvel battle,in the Civil
War Spiderman was an open book to Captian America
because he doesn’t know how to fight.The only thing that helped Spidey dodge Cap’s attacks was because of his “spider sense”,enhanced speed and agility-not because of skills in hand to hand combat.
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| 10 Jul 2008 10:25 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 14  Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,408 OFFLINE | Cap has fought more impressive enemy’s than Batman and won
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| 11 Jul 2008 03:06 pm |
Guile Grinder Guest | Kyle Knight wrote:
Cap has fought more impressive enemy’s than Batman and won
So?
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| 12 Jul 2008 06:03 am |
Ragnar Fortiscue Guest | Apile-Li wrote:
Ryo Ketchum wrote:
You know if I havn’t said this before then I have said it too many times often-HE HAS A POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay I now get what he was trying to say.I guess it makes sense if Captian America can dodge Spiderman’s attacks then he should easly dodge Batman’s attacks.But theres something you guys have to realize,Spiderman isn’t skilled.He doesn’t even know any form of combat,he just kicks and punches,and all those “non skills” are powered with super “spider” strength,webbing and agility.Batman knows how to fight,he can use some
deadly attacks to the human body that can actually hurt Captian America.That’s why Batman worn Cap out in the DC/Marvel battle,in the Civil
War Spiderman was an open book to Captian America
because he doesn’t know how to fight.The only thing that helped Spidey dodge Cap’s attacks was because of his “spider sense”,enhanced speed and agility-not because of skills in hand to hand combat.
Your right...damn your good...really.I really never thought of it like that.Okay if we put Batman in an open field with Captian America (weapons aside) who do you think would win? Yes even though Batman (let me be the first to admit)
is more skilled than Captian America,Batman is still fighting someone who is more stronger,agile
and faster than he is.Cap is more durable than Batman,he can obsorb much more punishment than Batman which explains why he has the stamina to keep up with the likes the Hulk and Spiderman.
In the cartoon series of Captian America,he fought a ninja delivering punches that made “stars circle around the ninja’s head”.The reason I’m telling you that is because (from the feat facts your provided about Batman) is that Batman is almost like a ninja.Cap would do the same thing he did to that ninja he fought.
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| 14 Jul 2008 08:21 am |
Apile-Li Guest | True but Batman is not just an ordinary ninja,just add gadgets and brains (something a ninja doesn’t have).I get your point where you say let’s put them in an open field,
yes I’ll admit Captian America would win.The only thing Batman has over Captian America is gadgets,skills and brains which is then why I say Batman wins when he uses his
gadgets.Just like Captian America,Batman has faced also faced Spiderman and the Hulk (defeating both of them)-so basically anything Cap can do (in terms of defeating anyone),Batman too can do that and get the job done.
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| 15 Jul 2008 08:19 am |
Ragnar Fortiscue Guest | Apile-Li wrote:
True but Batman is not just an ordinary ninja,just add gadgets and brains (something a ninja doesn’t have).I get your point where you say let’s put them in an open field,
yes I’ll admit Captian America would win.The only thing Batman has over Captian America is gadgets,skills and brains which is then why I say Batman wins when he uses his
gadgets.Just like Captian America,Batman has faced also faced Spiderman and the Hulk (defeating both of them)-so basically anything Cap can do (in terms of defeating anyone),Batman too can do that and get the job done.
Yeah but the only difference is Captian America has faced both Hulk and Spiderman more times than
Batman has.This shows that all which goes down is
experience.Cap knows Spidey and Hulk than Batman does and has faced them on numerous occassions,
where as to Batman he has only faced them once.
You say skills are going to help Batman in this battle,then I guess we are going back to where we
started.Look Captian America is stronger,agile, reflxed and more durable.He is also faster than Batman (which means he would dodge every attack Batman would throw at him),if Captian America punched Batman hard enough-he clearly take Batman
out (after all Cap did punch Spidey hard enough to make him dizzy).
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| 15 Jul 2008 01:45 pm |
Apile-Li Guest | I’m not doubting Cap’s abilities,I know he is stronger than
Batman-I’m not doubting you.I also know Captian America is faster,but I feel that your taking his speed to another level.Like Spiderman,you make it sound like as if Captian America has super speed or something.Wikipedia and Marvel database Cap’s fast as a human be (now I don’t see any human being able to be fast enough to dodge Spiderman-no matter how fast he is if he doesn’t have super speed)
Your wrong about one thing,Batman has faced Spiderman more than Captian America.There are many DC/Marvel team ups and battles featuring Batman and Spiderman such as Wizard Entertianment.Captian America has only fought Spiderman in the Civil War issue and the Amazing Spiderman # issue featuring Electro.
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| 17 Jul 2008 02:18 am |
Ryo Ketchum Guest | Apile-Li wrote:
I’m not doubting Cap’s abilities,I know he is stronger than
Batman-I’m not doubting you.I also know Captian America is faster,but I feel that your taking his speed to another level.Like Spiderman,you make it sound like as if Captian America has super speed or something.Wikipedia and Marvel database Cap’s fast as a human be (now I don’t see any human being able to be fast enough to dodge Spiderman-no matter how fast he is if he doesn’t have super speed)
Your wrong about one thing,Batman has faced Spiderman more than Captian America.There are many DC/Marvel team ups and battles featuring Batman and Spiderman such as Wizard Entertianment.Captian America has only fought Spiderman in the Civil War issue and the Amazing Spiderman # issue featuring Electro.
Well he has a point
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| 17 Jul 2008 09:13 am |
Ragnar Fortiscue Guest | I know but theres something Apile is forgeting,Captian America is the one who has faced and teamed up with Spiderman more than Batman since both Spidey and Cap are in
Marvel.Batman and Spiderman have teamed up the most in a DC
and Marvel crossover,but Spidey and Cap are both in Marvel.
Sometimes Spiderman is in the Avengers (a group led by Cap himself) so yeah....And lastly,the Civil War issue isn’t the only comic Spidey and Cap have fought each other,there are many more.Trust me my friend,Captian America knows Spiderman better than Batman does.
As for Captian America’s speed,yes he doesn’t have super speed like Spiderman.But he can dodge bullets (just like Spiderman),if he can dodge bullets then that means he could
easly dodge Spiderman’s attacks.If Captian America can dodge Spiderman’s attacks (imagine that),then he should easly dodge Batman’s attacks.
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| 17 Jul 2008 02:59 pm |
Guile Grinder Guest | Ragnar Fortiscue wrote:
I know but theres something Apile is forgeting,Captian America is the one who has faced and teamed up with Spiderman more than Batman since both Spidey and Cap are in
Marvel.Batman and Spiderman have teamed up the most in a DC
and Marvel crossover,but Spidey and Cap are both in Marvel.
Sometimes Spiderman is in the Avengers (a group led by Cap himself) so yeah....And lastly,the Civil War issue isn’t the only comic Spidey and Cap have fought each other,there are many more.Trust me my friend,Captian America knows Spiderman better than Batman does.
As for Captian America’s speed,yes he doesn’t have super speed like Spiderman.But he can dodge bullets (just like Spiderman),if he can dodge bullets then that means he could
easly dodge Spiderman’s attacks.If Captian America can dodge Spiderman’s attacks (imagine that),then he should easly dodge Batman’s attacks.
Spiderman doesn’t have super speed,he has enhanced speed
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| 18 Jul 2008 12:42 pm |
Apile-Li Guest | Ragnar Fortiscue wrote:
I know but theres something Apile is forgeting,Captian America is the one who has faced and teamed up with Spiderman more than Batman since both Spidey and Cap are in
Marvel.Batman and Spiderman have teamed up the most in a DC
and Marvel crossover,but Spidey and Cap are both in Marvel.
Sometimes Spiderman is in the Avengers (a group led by Cap himself) so yeah....And lastly,the Civil War issue isn’t the only comic Spidey and Cap have fought each other,there are many more.Trust me my friend,Captian America knows Spiderman better than Batman does.
As for Captian America’s speed,yes he doesn’t have super speed like Spiderman.But he can dodge bullets (just like Spiderman),if he can dodge bullets then that means he could
easly dodge Spiderman’s attacks.If Captian America can dodge Spiderman’s attacks (imagine that),then he should easly dodge Batman’s attacks.
Okay your right,you know what? Let’s agree to disagree.I can see now I’m taking this thread back to where it started,so I’ll put this in a simple way that can make both of us happy.Batman would win this match with preperation and gadgets
while Captian America would win in a brawl fist fight (no weapons included).
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| 19 Jul 2008 04:33 am |
Ragnar Fortiscue Guest | Hey,it works for me
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| 20 Jul 2008 09:46 am |
Ryo Ketchum Guest | Ragnar Fortiscue wrote:
Hey,it works for me
Great debate guys...
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| 21 Jul 2008 08:34 am |
Ragnar Fortiscue Guest | Thanks...
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| 22 Jul 2008 08:23 am |
Apile-Li Guest | Ragnar Fortiscue wrote:
Thanks...
Yeah...thanks
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