_hells_angel_ wrote:
yeah, bane broke his back. ONCE! AND CAP HAS A HARD TIME FIGHTING RED SKULL. try to think about your own fucked up logic.
like your didnt even think about ALL THE TIME BATMAN HAS BEATEN BANE. how many time did batman beat bane, manbat, and killer croc? yeah. and your using that ONE TIME BATMAN LOST to make him look like a push over? and your calling my logic bad?
Yet he still lost to stroke.
well, here are the abilites of death stroke.
Deathstroke possesses various enhanced abilities. These include the strength of ten men and heightened speed, agility, stamina, and reflexes. He has the capacity to use up to 90% of his brain making him a combat skills and tactical genius (written at a time when it was conjectured that humans only used 10% of their capacity), making him adept at turning opponents' own abilities against them, stemming from his years in the military and combat with various heroes. Deathstroke also possesses a regenerative factor in his blood that enables him to heal from physical injury much faster than a normal person. This has also made him effectively immortal, enabling him to recover from what would otherwise be fatal injuries, though recovering from what would be a fatal injury renders him insane and animalistic for a short period.
He is also a highly formidable opponent in physical combat to the point that even Batman can only fight him to a stalemate. Green Arrow #66 claims that an assassin known as Natas taught Deathstroke “almost everything he knows”. There has been argument over how good of a martial artist Deathstroke is. While he has defeated multiple opponents in hand-to-hand combat and has even been acknowledged by Cassandra Cain as “toying with me, he is holding back”, he is not considered one of the DCU’s greatest martial artists despite his impressive record, due to his enhanced capabilities and artificial enhancements providing him with an unfair advantage. Deathstroke is also skilled in the use of many weapons ranging from guns, rifles, and swords, which are usually among his current weapons of choice. His signature weapon is a power staff that fires lethal and non-lethal energy blasts from both ends. The staff can also be used to strike using energy at each end. His body armor is composed of a mesh-woven, kevlar, chainlink mail, capable of stopping small arms fire. Most of the metal he wears and uses are made out of Promethium.
so stop acting as if bats lost to an ordinary fighter. batman is just as strong as a human, deathstroke is as strong as ten. so its understandable bats will lose.
deemonkey wrote:
okay ,sick DC fanboys! sat on the fence long enough while DC continually “modifies” its heroes to become near god like without any real justification( Aquaman? a clwon who could get smacked stupid by even batman,now is NEAR invulnerable?? get real) Capt american stomps Bats butt-plain and simple!! Why? people always tout how “brainy” and skilled a a tactician Bats is- and Cap ??Hand to Hand combat Capt has ACTUALLY gone up against mega powered super heroes- from hulk and above ( the Super skrull would wipe batman up and down the sidewalk!)-Cap-despite giving up age-which becuase of his supersoldier chemical treatment is meaningless- has mastered several dozen types of unarmed combat,plus has REAL warfare combat experience! Bats can bench up to 500lbs,but Cap pushes 2,000 lbs with glee and STILL has the stamina to go rounds with even his BUDDY Thor( A norse god who can easily “dance” with Superman anytime he feels like it!!!)Maybe if Bats uses his gadgets- but like I said-Cap is ALSO a skilled combat tactician and would expect it-plus Bats is not going to get away for long from a few well placed shield slings- KA-TAAANNG!!! Bats ribs broken ,down for the count as Cap punches his skull in....
Didn’t this guy just say Captian America can lift
10 tons?
He did,but I’m not going to waste my time debating with him since he just thinks we are “sick DC fanboys”.I’m having a good debate with Ragnar since he provides better facts and has a good sense of humour.
_hells_angel_ wrote:
yeah, bane broke his back. ONCE! AND CAP HAS A HARD TIME FIGHTING RED SKULL. try to think about your own fucked up logic.
like your didnt even think about ALL THE TIME BATMAN HAS BEATEN BANE. how many time did batman beat bane, manbat, and killer croc? yeah. and your using that ONE TIME BATMAN LOST to make him look like a push over? and your calling my logic bad?
Yet he still lost to stroke.
well, here are the abilites of death stroke.
Deathstroke possesses various enhanced abilities. These include the strength of ten men and heightened speed, agility, stamina, and reflexes. He has the capacity to use up to 90% of his brain making him a combat skills and tactical genius (written at a time when it was conjectured that humans only used 10% of their capacity), making him adept at turning opponents' own abilities against them, stemming from his years in the military and combat with various heroes. Deathstroke also possesses a regenerative factor in his blood that enables him to heal from physical injury much faster than a normal person. This has also made him effectively immortal, enabling him to recover from what would otherwise be fatal injuries, though recovering from what would be a fatal injury renders him insane and animalistic for a short period.
He is also a highly formidable opponent in physical combat to the point that even Batman can only fight him to a stalemate. Green Arrow #66 claims that an assassin known as Natas taught Deathstroke “almost everything he knows”. There has been argument over how good of a martial artist Deathstroke is. While he has defeated multiple opponents in hand-to-hand combat and has even been acknowledged by Cassandra Cain as “toying with me, he is holding back”, he is not considered one of the DCU’s greatest martial artists despite his impressive record, due to his enhanced capabilities and artificial enhancements providing him with an unfair advantage. Deathstroke is also skilled in the use of many weapons ranging from guns, rifles, and swords, which are usually among his current weapons of choice. His signature weapon is a power staff that fires lethal and non-lethal energy blasts from both ends. The staff can also be used to strike using energy at each end. His body armor is composed of a mesh-woven, kevlar, chainlink mail, capable of stopping small arms fire. Most of the metal he wears and uses are made out of Promethium.
so stop acting as if bats lost to an ordinary fighter. batman is just as strong as a human, deathstroke is as strong as ten. so its understandable bats will lose.
_hells_angel_ wrote:
yeah, bane broke his back. ONCE! AND CAP HAS A HARD TIME FIGHTING RED SKULL. try to think about your own fucked up logic.
like your didnt even think about ALL THE TIME BATMAN HAS BEATEN BANE. how many time did batman beat bane, manbat, and killer croc? yeah. and your using that ONE TIME BATMAN LOST to make him look like a push over? and your calling my logic bad?
Yet he still lost to stroke.
well, here are the abilites of death stroke.
Deathstroke possesses various enhanced abilities. These include the strength of ten men and heightened speed, agility, stamina, and reflexes. He has the capacity to use up to 90% of his brain making him a combat skills and tactical genius (written at a time when it was conjectured that humans only used 10% of their capacity), making him adept at turning opponents' own abilities against them, stemming from his years in the military and combat with various heroes. Deathstroke also possesses a regenerative factor in his blood that enables him to heal from physical injury much faster than a normal person. This has also made him effectively immortal, enabling him to recover from what would otherwise be fatal injuries, though recovering from what would be a fatal injury renders him insane and animalistic for a short period.
He is also a highly formidable opponent in physical combat to the point that even Batman can only fight him to a stalemate. Green Arrow #66 claims that an assassin known as Natas taught Deathstroke “almost everything he knows”. There has been argument over how good of a martial artist Deathstroke is. While he has defeated multiple opponents in hand-to-hand combat and has even been acknowledged by Cassandra Cain as “toying with me, he is holding back”, he is not considered one of the DCU’s greatest martial artists despite his impressive record, due to his enhanced capabilities and artificial enhancements providing him with an unfair advantage. Deathstroke is also skilled in the use of many weapons ranging from guns, rifles, and swords, which are usually among his current weapons of choice. His signature weapon is a power staff that fires lethal and non-lethal energy blasts from both ends. The staff can also be used to strike using energy at each end. His body armor is composed of a mesh-woven, kevlar, chainlink mail, capable of stopping small arms fire. Most of the metal he wears and uses are made out of Promethium.
so stop acting as if bats lost to an ordinary fighter. batman is just as strong as a human, deathstroke is as strong as ten. so its understandable bats will lose.
Captain America>>>Stroke
YEAH, BATS>>>>>CAP. I CAN DO THAT TOO WITHOUT PROOF.
_hells_angel_ wrote:
yeah, bane broke his back. ONCE! AND CAP HAS A HARD TIME FIGHTING RED SKULL. try to think about your own fucked up logic.
like your didnt even think about ALL THE TIME BATMAN HAS BEATEN BANE. how many time did batman beat bane, manbat, and killer croc? yeah. and your using that ONE TIME BATMAN LOST to make him look like a push over? and your calling my logic bad?
Yet he still lost to stroke.
well, here are the abilites of death stroke.
Deathstroke possesses various enhanced abilities. These include the strength of ten men and heightened speed, agility, stamina, and reflexes. He has the capacity to use up to 90% of his brain making him a combat skills and tactical genius (written at a time when it was conjectured that humans only used 10% of their capacity), making him adept at turning opponents' own abilities against them, stemming from his years in the military and combat with various heroes. Deathstroke also possesses a regenerative factor in his blood that enables him to heal from physical injury much faster than a normal person. This has also made him effectively immortal, enabling him to recover from what would otherwise be fatal injuries, though recovering from what would be a fatal injury renders him insane and animalistic for a short period.
He is also a highly formidable opponent in physical combat to the point that even Batman can only fight him to a stalemate. Green Arrow #66 claims that an assassin known as Natas taught Deathstroke “almost everything he knows”. There has been argument over how good of a martial artist Deathstroke is. While he has defeated multiple opponents in hand-to-hand combat and has even been acknowledged by Cassandra Cain as “toying with me, he is holding back”, he is not considered one of the DCU’s greatest martial artists despite his impressive record, due to his enhanced capabilities and artificial enhancements providing him with an unfair advantage. Deathstroke is also skilled in the use of many weapons ranging from guns, rifles, and swords, which are usually among his current weapons of choice. His signature weapon is a power staff that fires lethal and non-lethal energy blasts from both ends. The staff can also be used to strike using energy at each end. His body armor is composed of a mesh-woven, kevlar, chainlink mail, capable of stopping small arms fire. Most of the metal he wears and uses are made out of Promethium.
so stop acting as if bats lost to an ordinary fighter. batman is just as strong as a human, deathstroke is as strong as ten. so its understandable bats will lose.
Captain America>>>Stroke
YEAH, BATS>>>>>CAP. I CAN DO THAT TOO WITHOUT PROOF.
Captain America has years of experience in battlefield which far surpasses that of Stroke or Batman. He avoids shotgun bullets at POINT BLANK TIME. At CLOSE RANGE. I don’t think Batman or Stroke is that level.
_hells_angel_ wrote:
yeah, bane broke his back. ONCE! AND CAP HAS A HARD TIME FIGHTING RED SKULL. try to think about your own fucked up logic.
like your didnt even think about ALL THE TIME BATMAN HAS BEATEN BANE. how many time did batman beat bane, manbat, and killer croc? yeah. and your using that ONE TIME BATMAN LOST to make him look like a push over? and your calling my logic bad?
Yet he still lost to stroke.
well, here are the abilites of death stroke.
Deathstroke possesses various enhanced abilities. These include the strength of ten men and heightened speed, agility, stamina, and reflexes. He has the capacity to use up to 90% of his brain making him a combat skills and tactical genius (written at a time when it was conjectured that humans only used 10% of their capacity), making him adept at turning opponents' own abilities against them, stemming from his years in the military and combat with various heroes. Deathstroke also possesses a regenerative factor in his blood that enables him to heal from physical injury much faster than a normal person. This has also made him effectively immortal, enabling him to recover from what would otherwise be fatal injuries, though recovering from what would be a fatal injury renders him insane and animalistic for a short period.
He is also a highly formidable opponent in physical combat to the point that even Batman can only fight him to a stalemate. Green Arrow #66 claims that an assassin known as Natas taught Deathstroke “almost everything he knows”. There has been argument over how good of a martial artist Deathstroke is. While he has defeated multiple opponents in hand-to-hand combat and has even been acknowledged by Cassandra Cain as “toying with me, he is holding back”, he is not considered one of the DCU’s greatest martial artists despite his impressive record, due to his enhanced capabilities and artificial enhancements providing him with an unfair advantage. Deathstroke is also skilled in the use of many weapons ranging from guns, rifles, and swords, which are usually among his current weapons of choice. His signature weapon is a power staff that fires lethal and non-lethal energy blasts from both ends. The staff can also be used to strike using energy at each end. His body armor is composed of a mesh-woven, kevlar, chainlink mail, capable of stopping small arms fire. Most of the metal he wears and uses are made out of Promethium.
so stop acting as if bats lost to an ordinary fighter. batman is just as strong as a human, deathstroke is as strong as ten. so its understandable bats will lose.
Captain America>>>Stroke
YEAH, BATS>>>>>CAP. I CAN DO THAT TOO WITHOUT PROOF.
Captain America has years of experience in battlefield which far surpasses that of Stroke or Batman. He avoids shotgun bullets at POINT BLANK TIME. At CLOSE RANGE. I don’t think Batman or Stroke is that level.
and thor has thousands of years of battle experience. but that doesnt make him as good as a fighter as cap now does it? yeah, cap can dodge a shotgun blast. thats why hes killed by a gun. right.
Ragnar Fortiscue wrote:
Why do I like bringing Spiderman into the picture? Simple.
Batman can’t touch someone who has traded blows and kept up with the speed of Spiderman (a mutant who can dodge bullets and is impossible to be hit by any Marvel hero).
If Cap can dodge blows (YES DODGE BLOWS FROM SPIDERMAN),
take fist shots from Spiderman (A MUTANT THAT CAN LIFT 13 TONS) and lay fists on Spiderman (WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO
WHEN FACING MARVEL’S GREATEST DODGER) then what trouble can
a human be like Batman? If Batman could do those three things Cap could do then we will have a match.But he can’t.
Your saying I’m not providing you facts on why Captian America would beat Batman? Ok I’m sure I said this before
“he has enough “strength” to support the weight of a tree and pull a truck.Batman can’t do
that and that is why I say he can’t take a 3 ton punch to the gut.
That is my proof,one solid punch from Captian America would
knock out Batman,even if he blocked it (CAP DID AFTER ALL PUNCH SPIDEY HARD ENOUGH SENDING HIM CRASHING INTO A BRICK WALL WITH “Stars circaling around his head”.
Ok so your still bringing Spiderman into the picture,ok thats fine and I won’t argue with you.
Let me qoute on your statement (like you qouted mine)
“If Cap can dodge blows (YES DODGE BLOWS FROM SPIDERMAN),
take fist shots from Spiderman (A MUTANT THAT CAN LIFT 13 TONS) and lay fists on Spiderman (WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO
WHEN FACING MARVEL’S GREATEST DODGER) then what trouble can
a human be like Batman?"
I agree with you completely and Batman here is in
a disadvantage since Captian America is stronger and faster than him.But don’t forget Ragnar,the Batman did defeat Spiderman (in a short rematch after loosing to Spiderman in the first round) in
the DC/Marvel team up.Captian America has NEVER DEFEATED SPIDER-MAN,IN THE CIVIL WAR HE MADE A DUCK AT IT AND IN AMAZING SPIDERMAN (featuring Electro) SPIDERMAN MADE A DUCK-SO NO ONE DEFEATED
EACH OTHER.
And lastly your forgeting that Batman “is more skilled than Captian America” which is why I say Batman could use deadly attacks such as the Leopard Blow,a nerve punch or a kick to the groin.And yes these attacks (except the kick to the groin) would not work on Spiderman but they would work on Captian America.Does that make any sense?
It makes perfect sense and don’t worry,I know Captian America is no were near to Spiderman (but he is close though).And speaking of that,I never said Captian America defeated Spiderman.Yes I did at one point and you corrected
me on my mistake,I then said that Captian America would last longer against Spiderman than Batman would.
Being in the topic of Spiderman,yes I’m aware Batman defeated Spiderman in the Marvel/DC team up but remember Batman won because he used his weapons.And don’t forget Li Batman lost to Spiderman the “very first time they met” with Batman loosing from Spiderman’s punch (on which Spidey
held back).It took one punch to take out Batman from Spiderman,just one punch.Captian America has taken more blows than that from Spiderman which is why I keep saying that Batman’s punches won’t do that much damage on Captian America.
And lastly,Leopard Blow and nerve punch? How is that going to take down someone who is strong as 10 men?(Yes TEN MEN)
No form of human attack can take down Captian America,his durability can take more punishment than a human body can take-which is why blows from the Hulk and Spiderman don’t take Cap out in an instinct.And please,a kick to the groin?
Do you really think Captian America is going to stand there
and let Batman kick him in the nuts? Honestly.Yes if he was
kicked in the nuts then he is out (that is enough to take any man down by the way even if your super powered).
Captian America still wins,carry on prooving me wrong
Ragnar Fortiscue wrote:
It makes perfect sense and don’t worry,I know Captian America is no were near to Spiderman (but he is close though).And speaking of that,I never said Captian America defeated Spiderman.Yes I did at one point and you corrected
me on my mistake,I then said that Captian America would last longer against Spiderman than Batman would.
Being in the topic of Spiderman,yes I’m aware Batman defeated Spiderman in the Marvel/DC team up but remember Batman won because he used his weapons.And don’t forget Li Batman lost to Spiderman the “very first time they met” with Batman loosing from Spiderman’s punch (on which Spidey
held back).It took one punch to take out Batman from Spiderman,just one punch.Captian America has taken more blows than that from Spiderman which is why I keep saying that Batman’s punches won’t do that much damage on Captian America.
And lastly,Leopard Blow and nerve punch? How is that going to take down someone who is strong as 10 men?(Yes TEN MEN)
No form of human attack can take down Captian America,his durability can take more punishment than a human body can take-which is why blows from the Hulk and Spiderman don’t take Cap out in an instinct.And please,a kick to the groin?
Do you really think Captian America is going to stand there
and let Batman kick him in the nuts? Honestly.Yes if he was
kicked in the nuts then he is out (that is enough to take any man down by the way even if your super powered).
Captian America still wins,carry on prooving me wrong
Ok I guess I went over board with the kick to the
nuts issue so I’ll take that out.But your forgeting something Ragnar,as strong and fast as Captian America is,he is still human and can die like a human being can.Which is why and I still stick to the fact that Batman’s attacks can take down Captian America such as the Leopard Blow and
the nerve punch (a very deadly strike that only Batman’s female trainer could use).
And I’m surprised.I never thought Captian America
could be strong as 10 (TEN) men,at least 5 men but 10? But putting that aside,I still say Batman
has a chance here since he is facing someone who is a “little bit” faster and stronger than him.
And again your forgeting this Ragnar,Batman is more skilled than Captian America.Meaning? He knows more martial arts move than Captian America
which is why Batman has an advantage in terms of skill.
1) Who is this female trainer of Batman who only knows how
to use the “leopard blow”? I never new Batman had a
trainer,rather a female one (sorry ladies)
2) And what makes you say that Batman is more skilled than
Captian America?
Now answering “your” question,you said that you never knew
Captian America was strong as 10 men.My answer to you is,he
is indeed strong as 10 men (obvoiusly for someone to lift a
tree or lift 3 tons has to be strong as at least 10 men).So
no Apile,he (Cap) is a little bit stronger than 5 men.And I
just don’t think Captian America is a “little bit” stronger
and faster than Batman,for someone to be strong as 10 men and lift 3 tons I think saying “little bit stronger” is a wrong term of using.
Ragnar Fortiscue wrote:
Ok I’ve got to 2 questions for you.
1) Who is this female trainer of Batman who only knows how
to use the “leopard blow”? I never new Batman had a
trainer,rather a female one (sorry ladies)
2) And what makes you say that Batman is more skilled than
Captian America?
Now answering “your” question,you said that you never knew
Captian America was strong as 10 men.My answer to you is,he
is indeed strong as 10 men (obvoiusly for someone to lift a
tree or lift 3 tons has to be strong as at least 10 men).So
no Apile,he (Cap) is a little bit stronger than 5 men.And I
just don’t think Captian America is a “little bit” stronger
and faster than Batman,for someone to be strong as 10 men and lift 3 tons I think saying “little bit stronger” is a wrong term of using.
Ok I’ll answer your two questions but lets get this strait,to me Captian America is a “little” bit faster and stronger than Batman.Why? If Captian America was strong as Spiderman (who is strong as 47 men) and fast as Spiderman (who is 15 times faster than a human),then I would agree with you on saying Captian America is much more stronger than Batma.But the fact is,he is not.I don’t see someone strong as 10 men and can run as
fast as a human being can be makes him superier.
Captian America’s structure and durabiliity are that to a humans like Batman,I hope you are aware
of that.
Now answering your first question about Batman’s mystery woman trainer:
The mystery woman is Lady Shiva who features in Batman-Knightfall and Knightquest.She is a very deadly assassin who trained Bruce Wayne,if you want to know more about her go to Wikipedia and just type Knightfall or Knightquest.You’ll get all the info you need
And answering your last question,yes Batman is more skilled than Captian America.He has trained in many more countries,studied more martial arts combat moves and techniques.His skills surpass Captian America by a long shot which is why he is
going to win.
Thanks for the info on Lady Shiva,I saw all her information
on Wikipedia-Thanks.But back to business and I’ll start off
with the strength factor first.Ok fine Captian America is a
“bit” stronger than Batman and yes he may not be strong and
fast as Spiderman but the fact he is Captian America’s strength and speed is 10% percent to that of Spiderman which my friend means one solid blow from Captian America should take off Batman’s head clearly off his shoulders!!!
And the skills issue,Captian America has trained in many countries like Batman studing all various forms of martial
arts.He trained all sorts of skills as a kid,he has been dodging bullets in war when Bruce Wayne was still involved with his parents (and at that time he did not know any form
of fighting until after his parents’s death).So no Captian America is the one more skilled than Batman,not the other way round.
Ragnar Fortiscue wrote:
Thanks for the info on Lady Shiva,I saw all her information
on Wikipedia-Thanks.But back to business and I’ll start off
with the strength factor first.Ok fine Captian America is a
“bit” stronger than Batman and yes he may not be strong and
fast as Spiderman but the fact he is Captian America’s strength and speed is 10% percent to that of Spiderman which my friend means one solid blow from Captian America should take off Batman’s head clearly off his shoulders!!!
And the skills issue,Captian America has trained in many countries like Batman studing all various forms of martial
arts.He trained all sorts of skills as a kid,he has been dodging bullets in war when Bruce Wayne was still involved with his parents (and at that time he did not know any form
of fighting until after his parents’s death).So no Captian America is the one more skilled than Batman,not the other way round.
No Ragnar no!!!! Batman is definatley more skilled than Captian
America.How many countries has Captian America trained in
compared to Batman? Batman outclasses Captian America
Why?.Simple.He has trained in more countries than Cap,
studied more forms of the art and has various moves
that Captian America hasn’t even heard of.Batman
definately beats Cap in the skills department,no
question about it.
And yes Batman may be at an disadvantage when
it comes to strength and speed,but he has faced a
lot of heroes with super human strength beating
Cap’s,the likes of Killer Croc and the indestructable
Bane.Batman has always found a way at beating
heroes far superier than him,he has beaton
Superman (many times), Flash and the entire
JLA himself. He has beaton Marvel’s Hulk,
Spiderman and the now Captian America.
He did it before and he can do it again.
Ragnar Fortiscue wrote:
Thanks for the info on Lady Shiva,I saw all her information
on Wikipedia-Thanks.But back to business and I’ll start off
with the strength factor first.Ok fine Captian America is a
“bit” stronger than Batman and yes he may not be strong and
fast as Spiderman but the fact he is Captian America’s strength and speed is 10% percent to that of Spiderman which my friend means one solid blow from Captian America should take off Batman’s head clearly off his shoulders!!!
And the skills issue,Captian America has trained in many countries like Batman studing all various forms of martial
arts.He trained all sorts of skills as a kid,he has been dodging bullets in war when Bruce Wayne was still involved with his parents (and at that time he did not know any form
of fighting until after his parents’s death).So no Captian America is the one more skilled than Batman,not the other way round.
No Ragnar no!!!! Batman is definatley more skilled than Captian
America.How many countries has Captian America trained in
compared to Batman? Batman outclasses Captian America
Why?.Simple.He has trained in more countries than Cap,
studied more forms of the art and has various moves
that Captian America hasn’t even heard of.Batman
definately beats Cap in the skills department,no
question about it.
And yes Batman may be at an disadvantage when
it comes to strength and speed,but he has faced a
lot of heroes with super human strength beating
Cap’s,the likes of Killer Croc and the indestructable
Bane.Batman has always found a way at beating
heroes far superier than him,he has beaton
Superman (many times), Flash and the entire
JLA himself. He has beaton Marvel’s Hulk,
Spiderman and the now Captian America.
He did it before and he can do it again.
Hulk/Batman was non cannon. Hulk doesn’t simply get knocked out by gas. Batman does not possess most advanced tech. Spiderman by one punch? That’s poorly written plot. Captain America is above Killer Croc and Bane. When has Bane ever supported building or flip over tank? Never.
Captain America with his strength shattered Ironman’s armor. If Batman’s skill is so godly, why have I seen him beat up by Bane, Joker, etc?
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