Apile-Li wrote:


No Ragnar no!!!! Batman is definatley more skilled than Captian
America.How many countries has Captian America trained in
compared to Batman? Batman outclasses Captian America
Why?.Simple.He has trained in more countries than Cap,
studied more forms of the art and has various moves
that Captian America hasn’t even heard of.Batman
definately beats Cap in the skills department,no
question about it.

And yes Batman may be at an disadvantage when
it comes to strength and speed,but he has faced a
lot of heroes with super human strength beating
Cap’s,the likes of Killer Croc and the indestructable
Bane.Batman has always found a way at beating
heroes far superier than him,he has beaton
Superman (many times), Flash and the entire
JLA himself. He has beaton Marvel’s Hulk,
Spiderman and the now Captian America.
He did it before and he can do it again.

Ragnar Fortiscue wrote:

I thought we had an agreement not to bring the Batman versus Captian America issue (since it has
so many loose writings).Anyway.

What does Killer Croc and Bane have over Captian America? Are you trying to say that Bane and Killer Croc are stronger than Captian America? Theres something you seem to be forgeting when your bringing Batman’s enemies into the picture..
and that is Captian America is smarter than both villians (Killer Croc and Bane).Batman is fighting Captian America here (not Bane or Killer
Croc) and the tactics Batman uses on Bane and Killer Croc won’t work on Captian America-I’m sure that.Captian America is “mere super human”,
something Bane and Killer Croc are not.

And lastly on the skills department,Captian America has trained in many countries himself like Batman.Theres no proof Batman is a better fighter than he is,they both have their own fighting skills that they use to get the job done

Apile-Li wrote:

They both have their own fighting skills but still Batman beats Cap simply because he has trained in more countries than Cap and has studied more martial arts moves.Okay lets lay off
of the strength factor for a while and leave Bane
and Killer Croc of this battle...for now.I want to focus on the skills department because this is
where we are having a misunderstanding.Let’s start on their skills,what do you say?

lionfranky wrote:
Then why did he lose to Spidey at another topic? MB pretty much owned bat fans. And Captain America was kicking shit out of Spiderman WITH his new Iron Spider suit! Yeah in Civil War! I know Batman is a great martial artist all that but why did he lose to someone who has less martial art experience? Captain America has his own share of fighting experience which is unique on its own. He was fighting for his nation even before Batman was born.

Apile-Li wrote:

They both have their own fighting skills but still Batman beats Cap simply because he has trained in more countries than Cap and has studied more martial arts moves.Okay lets lay off
of the strength factor for a while and leave Bane
and Killer Croc of this battle...for now.I want to focus on the skills department because this is
where we are having a misunderstanding.Let’s start on their skills,what do you say?

Apile-Li wrote: Okay I’ll go first then,it’s long but I guess it’s better than nothing heh:


Batman is a trained scientist, escape artist, detective and inventor.

Batman began his physical and mental conditioning when he was 11.
Began intense physical training and weight lifting at age 12.
Trained in the US for various martial arts for 3 years.
Gained degrees in criminal science, forensics, computer science, chemistry and engineering by the time he was 16.
Became 2st and 3nd degree black belt in Karate, Judo, Jujitsu, Aikido by the time he was 17.
Trained and became proficient with all small arms and basic vehicles operations.


By the time he was 18 he:


Studied commando style operations with small mercenary units.
Left US to further study martial arts under specialized masters.
Other skills: knife throwing, escrima, melee weapons mastery, body control
Other skills: disguise, diverse environmental training, combat driving, savate, kungfu
Other skills: security systems, illusion/sleight of hand, blind fighting



By the time he was 24 he had expanded his studies for more advanced:


forensic and medical sciences
expanded computer and engineering sciences
expanded disguise and weapon/device sciences
expand device pool, improve vehicle designs
use of personal powered armor and systems.
continual physical training in Batcave facility.
database creation on underworld crime bosses, rogue’s gallery foes and other supers.
expanded melee weapon techniques
improved material sciences for body armor and micro-machinery


Skills and Powers
With few exceptions, the non-metahuman known as the Batman is a superbly trained and highly experienced fighting machine. Mastering the world’s most lethal martial arts disciplines, he is considered to be the best martial artist in the world. The enigmatic Lady Shiva (see attached files), the new Green Arrow, and perhaps his young protege, Nightwing, are the only non-metas on the planet who could possibly defeat him in a one on one conflict.
Batman maintains the physical stature of a man in perfect physical condition and he constantly trains his physical abilities, strength, agility, reflexes and coordination until they reach mythical proportions for a human. Starting at a very young age, Batman conditioned his body with physical regimes such as strength conditioning, martial arts, yoga and biofeedback. These years of intenstive training have allowed him to become and remain one of the most physically capable men on Earth.

He may bench press approximately 725 pounds and is the near-equal or equal of the world’s best athlete in any Olympic event. Batman is a ruthless combatant and fights with an unothodoxed mixture of styles that incorporate techniques from other cultures, mixed with the weapon styles of his uniform. These include batarangs, razor-wings and grappling lines. Batman is also an accomplished night fighter and is capable of fighting in an obscured or poorly lit environnment.


This my friend is taken from the DC site itself,impressive isn’t it?

Ryo Ketchum wrote:


Wow Ragnar,the kid pulled it off.Theres no way Captian America can catch up with this,especially
blind fighting and being an escape artist.

Apile-Li wrote: Okay I’ll go first then,it’s long but I guess it’s better than nothing heh:


Batman is a trained scientist, escape artist, detective and inventor.

Batman began his physical and mental conditioning when he was 11.
Began intense physical training and weight lifting at age 12.
Trained in the US for various martial arts for 3 years.
Gained degrees in criminal science, forensics, computer science, chemistry and engineering by the time he was 16.
Became 2st and 3nd degree black belt in Karate, Judo, Jujitsu, Aikido by the time he was 17.
Trained and became proficient with all small arms and basic vehicles operations.


By the time he was 18 he:


Studied commando style operations with small mercenary units.
Left US to further study martial arts under specialized masters.
Other skills: knife throwing, escrima, melee weapons mastery, body control
Other skills: disguise, diverse environmental training, combat driving, savate, kungfu
Other skills: security systems, illusion/sleight of hand, blind fighting



By the time he was 24 he had expanded his studies for more advanced:


forensic and medical sciences
expanded computer and engineering sciences
expanded disguise and weapon/device sciences
expand device pool, improve vehicle designs
use of personal powered armor and systems.
continual physical training in Batcave facility.
database creation on underworld crime bosses, rogue’s gallery foes and other supers.
expanded melee weapon techniques
improved material sciences for body armor and micro-machinery


Skills and Powers
With few exceptions, the non-metahuman known as the Batman is a superbly trained and highly experienced fighting machine. Mastering the world’s most lethal martial arts disciplines, he is considered to be the best martial artist in the world. The enigmatic Lady Shiva (see attached files), the new Green Arrow, and perhaps his young protege, Nightwing, are the only non-metas on the planet who could possibly defeat him in a one on one conflict.
Batman maintains the physical stature of a man in perfect physical condition and he constantly trains his physical abilities, strength, agility, reflexes and coordination until they reach mythical proportions for a human. Starting at a very young age, Batman conditioned his body with physical regimes such as strength conditioning, martial arts, yoga and biofeedback. These years of intenstive training have allowed him to become and remain one of the most physically capable men on Earth.

He may bench press approximately 725 pounds and is the near-equal or equal of the world’s best athlete in any Olympic event. Batman is a ruthless combatant and fights with an unothodoxed mixture of styles that incorporate techniques from other cultures, mixed with the weapon styles of his uniform. These include batarangs, razor-wings and grappling lines. Batman is also an accomplished night fighter and is capable of fighting in an obscured or poorly lit environnment.


This my friend is taken from the DC site itself,impressive isn’t it?

Apile-Li wrote: Come on Ragnar you can’t be serious asking me that question.It’s obvoius Batman being an escape artist and a trained scientist adds to his collection of his skills.
Which again as Ryo and Mr.White even agree,Batman’s skills outwit Captian America’s....by a long a shot.So I think you
should tone down and take back that statement where you say
Captian America has been training more than Batman when he was just a kid (because you can see for yourself he started
training from the age of 11).

Apile-Li wrote: Captian America is like Streetfighter’s Guile-I like that statement.Anyway your right about Cap’s military army skills,Batman has never been exposed to that form of fighting.But remember,Batman and Captian America come from two different worlds where Cap has been exposed in war and the battle field while Batman was exposed in Hong Kong regions.BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT
Despite both these heroes heroes being different in terms of skill,Batman is more skilled than him not because Batman
has studied more but that I have provided proof on his skills.


And hey speaking of that,when can I see Cap’s skills to prove me that indeed Captian America is better skilled than
Batman?