| 06 Jun 2008 11:54 am |
Ragnar Fortiscue Guest | Apile-Li wrote:
Oh yeah...sure,be my guest
So basically what I was saying earlier on before we brought the skills issue was the strength factor between Captian America and both Killer Croc and Bane.You said that both villians are stronger than Captian America meaning Batman has a chance against Cap since be beat his enemies who you say “are stronger than Captian America”.
Before I go,I want to know if I’m on the right track
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| 07 Jun 2008 02:55 pm |
Apile-Li Guest | Yes you are on the right track and just to add on,I do think both Bane and Killer Croc are stronger than Captian America.
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| 08 Jun 2008 06:16 am |
Brianus Guest | I personally think that Batman would whip Captain America’s ass because Batman is way more intelligent, has more gadgets than 007, and his stamina is probably equivalent to Bruce Lee’s if he were real. And most importantly, Batman is crazy enough to fight Superman if its neccessary.
(Captain America’s intellect is slightly above the average man while Batman is a goddamn scientist.)Sorry Cap, you better find U.S Agent to replace you again cause you’re dead.
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| 08 Jun 2008 12:44 pm |
Ragnar Fortiscue Guest | Apile-Li wrote:
Yes you are on the right track and just to add on,I do think both Bane and Killer Croc are stronger than Captian America.
Okay and why is that? And don’t worry
I’ll give my reasons why I say Captian
America is stronger than both these 2
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| 09 Jun 2008 05:37 am |
Apile-Li Guest | Okay.I’ve seen Bane go through walls (and I mean solid walls) and I’ve seen Killer Croc push over a statue (almost
half the size of America’s Statue of Librety).I don’t think
Captian America has “enough” strength to do those two things which is why I say again both Killer Croc and Bane are stronger than Captian America.
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| 09 Jun 2008 05:47 am |
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| 10 Jun 2008 09:39 am |
Ragnar Fortiscue Guest | Apile-Li wrote:
Okay.I’ve seen Bane go through walls (and I mean solid walls) and I’ve seen Killer Croc push over a statue (almost
half the size of America’s Statue of Librety).I don’t think
Captian America has “enough” strength to do those two things which is why I say again both Killer Croc and Bane are stronger than Captian America.
Probably not,but there are feats Captian America has performed under stress like supporting a building (a building that was already destroyed half way due to construction) and lifting a tree that almost fell on a group of soldiers.So no I think Captian America should be in the league of Ban and Killer’s strength (if not more than them)
So their pretty much on the same league
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| 10 Jun 2008 01:55 pm |
Apile-Li Guest | I doubt it,it’s hard for me to consider Cap supported a building (even though half destroyed due to construction) because he doesn’t have super “human” strength.Like Brandon
(rather B-L) said in the Captian America versus Spiderman (Marvel’s Finest) thread,Cap’s strength can be limited to that of a human peak.That makes him stronger than Batman but Cap’s still human,he has to be strong as at least like eh...hmmmm.....someone who is well known.....yeah like WWE Mark Henry or Batista.Honestly,what makes Captian America’s
strength not different from that of a body builder or weight lifter?
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| 12 Jun 2008 08:36 am |
Ryo Ketchum Guest | Apile-Li wrote:
I doubt it,it’s hard for me to consider Cap supported a building (even though half destroyed due to construction) because he doesn’t have super “human” strength.Like Brandon
(rather B-L) said in the Captian America versus Spiderman (Marvel’s Finest) thread,Cap’s strength can be limited to that of a human peak.That makes him stronger than Batman but Cap’s still human,he has to be strong as at least like eh...hmmmm.....someone who is well known.....yeah like WWE Mark Henry or Batista.Honestly,what makes Captian America’s
strength not different from that of a body builder or weight lifter?
He raises a good question Ragnar.
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| 12 Jun 2008 01:35 pm |
Ragnar Fortiscue Guest | Yes Ryo I agree,I myself don’t see a body builder having the strength to support a half destroyed building or rather
support 3 tons.And in this case,Batista or the strongest man in the plannet wouldn’t have the strength to even support a ton.Captian America in this place shouldn’t be supporting 3 tons at all,no human being no matter how strong he is cannot support a ton and I’m the first to admit that Captian America should’nt be lifting 3 tons.But
remember,Captian America (like Batman) is a fictional charactor and anything happens in the comic world.
The same would be said for Batman were he dodges bullets in
Batman Year 2-Fear the Reaper.I consider Batman’s martial arts to that of the great Bruce Lee (even though I don’t consider him screaming like Bruce Lee every time he fights)
Despite being so gifted in martial arts,Bruce Lee wouldn’t have the agility and speed to dodge bullets and the same would go for Batman.But then agian,anything can happen in the comic world.Take Spiderman for instance,he is only strong as almost 50 men and can lift 10-12 tons but he has enough strength to lift a helicopter? Get my drift?
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| 12 Jun 2008 01:36 pm |
Regular Rep: 3 Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 287 OFFLINE | mmmm i think bat man is better
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| 12 Jun 2008 01:40 pm |
Regular Rep: 3Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 287 OFFLINE | because batman have some good invteroy mmm
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| 12 Jun 2008 01:42 pm |
Regular Rep: 3Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 287 OFFLINE | gas bomb . bat logo and thin wire etc
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| 12 Jun 2008 01:44 pm |
Regular Rep: 3Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 287 OFFLINE | and captin america got his armor covered with americas flag
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| 13 Jun 2008 03:41 pm |
Ryo Ketchum Guest | Ragnar Fortiscue wrote:
Yes Ryo I agree,I myself don’t see a body builder having the strength to support a half destroyed building or rather
support 3 tons.And in this case,Batista or the strongest man in the plannet wouldn’t have the strength to even support a ton.Captian America in this place shouldn’t be supporting 3 tons at all,no human being no matter how strong he is cannot support a ton and I’m the first to admit that Captian America should’nt be lifting 3 tons.But
remember,Captian America (like Batman) is a fictional charactor and anything happens in the comic world.
The same would be said for Batman were he dodges bullets in
Batman Year 2-Fear the Reaper.I consider Batman’s martial arts to that of the great Bruce Lee (even though I don’t consider him screaming like Bruce Lee every time he fights)
Despite being so gifted in martial arts,Bruce Lee wouldn’t have the agility and speed to dodge bullets and the same would go for Batman.But then agian,anything can happen in the comic world.Take Spiderman for instance,he is only strong as almost 50 men and can lift 10-12 tons but he has enough strength to lift a helicopter? Get my drift?
Another good point,damn I’m starting to love this
thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 15 Jun 2008 12:10 pm |
Apile-Li Guest | Ragnar Fortiscue wrote:
Yes Ryo I agree,I myself don’t see a body builder having the strength to support a half destroyed building or rather
support 3 tons.And in this case,Batista or the strongest man in the plannet wouldn’t have the strength to even support a ton.Captian America in this place shouldn’t be supporting 3 tons at all,no human being no matter how strong he is cannot support a ton and I’m the first to admit that Captian America should’nt be lifting 3 tons.But
remember,Captian America (like Batman) is a fictional charactor and anything happens in the comic world.
The same would be said for Batman were he dodges bullets in
Batman Year 2-Fear the Reaper.I consider Batman’s martial arts to that of the great Bruce Lee (even though I don’t consider him screaming like Bruce Lee every time he fights)
Despite being so gifted in martial arts,Bruce Lee wouldn’t have the agility and speed to dodge bullets and the same would go for Batman.But then agian,anything can happen in the comic world.Take Spiderman for instance,he is only strong as almost 50 men and can lift 10-12 tons but he has enough strength to lift a helicopter? Get my drift?
I dig it and your right,Batman can’t dodge bullets like he did when he faced the Reaper.But like you said,anything can happen in the comic world.I won’t bring back the strength issue of Cap again but can we continue on the Captian America and Killer Croc-Bane issue?
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| 15 Jun 2008 12:56 pm |
Pat Guest | They did this in Marvel vs DC. Batman won.
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| 16 Jun 2008 11:58 am |
Ragnar Fortiscue Guest | Apile-Li wrote:
Ragnar Fortiscue wrote:
Yes Ryo I agree,I myself don’t see a body builder having the strength to support a half destroyed building or rather
support 3 tons.And in this case,Batista or the strongest man in the plannet wouldn’t have the strength to even support a ton.Captian America in this place shouldn’t be supporting 3 tons at all,no human being no matter how strong he is cannot support a ton and I’m the first to admit that Captian America should’nt be lifting 3 tons.But
remember,Captian America (like Batman) is a fictional charactor and anything happens in the comic world.
The same would be said for Batman were he dodges bullets in
Batman Year 2-Fear the Reaper.I consider Batman’s martial arts to that of the great Bruce Lee (even though I don’t consider him screaming like Bruce Lee every time he fights)
Despite being so gifted in martial arts,Bruce Lee wouldn’t have the agility and speed to dodge bullets and the same would go for Batman.But then agian,anything can happen in the comic world.Take Spiderman for instance,he is only strong as almost 50 men and can lift 10-12 tons but he has enough strength to lift a helicopter? Get my drift?
I dig it and your right,Batman can’t dodge bullets like he did when he faced the Reaper.But like you said,anything can happen in the comic world.I won’t bring back the strength issue of Cap again but can we continue on the Captian America and Killer Croc-Bane issue?
Sure no problem
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| 17 Jun 2008 12:27 pm |
Apile-Li Guest | So like I said earlier,I’m positive that both Bane and Killer Croc are stronger than Captian America (as both villians have demonstrated their strength power with Bane smashing through solid walls like Superman and Killer Croc knocking over a huge statue).Even though both villians are not that strong,I’m sure they can at least support a ton (if they can’t support tons) while Cap can support pounds as stated he could lift 800 pounds.Now that already shows you who is stronger,both Bane and Killer Croc which again proves my point that both villians are stronger than Captian America.
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| 18 Jun 2008 05:34 am |
Ragnar Fortiscue Guest | Apile-Li wrote:
So like I said earlier,I’m positive that both Bane and Killer Croc are stronger than Captian America (as both villians have demonstrated their strength power with Bane smashing through solid walls like Superman and Killer Croc knocking over a huge statue).Even though both villians are not that strong,I’m sure they can at least support a ton (if they can’t support tons) while Cap can support pounds as stated he could lift 800 pounds.Now that already shows you who is stronger,both Bane and Killer Croc which again proves my point that both villians are stronger than Captian America.
Marvel writers have increased Captian America’s strength making him now support 3 tons as shown when he lifted a tree and supported a half destroyed building.I’ve told you this before.
Back on the Bane and Killer Croc issue,I’ve checked their powers and abilities and both Wikipedia and the DC database state that they don’t have have super human strength.BANE and KILLER CROC don’t have super human strength,their
just both strong.
Bane is said to be strong as a human being can be(similar to Captian America),which means Bane can
be strong as WWE Smackdown’s Big Show or the Great Khali-and both these superstars no matter how big and strong they are can’t break through walls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So for Bane smashing walls,eh it’s a little bit akward provided he is strong as a human can be.
As for Killer Croc,it is said he has the strength
of a crocodile and his jaws are powerfull like the reptile.It doesn’t say anything of him having
super strength,and I’m sure Captian America isn’t
strong as a crocodile (which explains why he could support a building and a tree).Which explains that Captian America indeed is stronger than both Bane and Killer Croc.
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