Shadow Goku336 wrote:
In the cards, Broly has a bit more power than Majin Vegeta, but Vegeta seems to be more skilled at Martial Arts than Broly. Vegeta could win he doesn’t really run out of power does he? He was able to stay in his Super Saiyan 2 Form permanintly, and Goku, who is a little stronger than Broly, can only stay SS3 for short periods of time. Vegeta did beat Goku in the series as Majin Vegeta.
And that is because the gap between their powers was closed at that time.
Well Brolly beat Goku and Vegeta 7yr’s prior Majin and SSJ2 Goku correct, Brolly already had an SSJ Form then a Legendary Form so Legendary was ubove normal SSJ level’s
Now Ask yourself could Brolly beat Super Perfect Cell a Solar threat with great Regen time and a whole host of deadly move’s (IT,Solar Flare,Multi-Form,Kamehameha,Distructo Disk,Tri-Beam,SBC,Masenko and Cell JR’s^^) And a combination of earth’s mightiest martial Art’s.
I think it’s a good fight considering it’s around the same time period and SPC could solo all the Z Fighter’s (Goku SSJ,Gohan SSJ,Vegeta USSJ,Trunk’s USSJ,Piccolo,Tien,Yamcha,Krillin) without any problem’s when going to his Super Perfect State.
But if you do think Brolly then also think could he beat Gohan SSJ2 who could one shot kill every Cell Jr (don’t take it lightly they pummbled Goku Vegeta Trunk’s and co)
So naturaly he could one hit a Z Fighter into cosmic dust (something i doubt Brolly could have done (remember’s the beating Goku withstood).
Then if you still think Brolly would win consider Both Vegeta and Goku were much stronger than Gohan was when he faced Celland their’s your problem, Vegeta wasn’t in SSJ2 btw Majin was stronger than Vegeta would be as an SSJ2 it was all the power he would have attained had he chose a path of darkness and destruction with nothing to hold him back (that’s alot of stored up power over 7yr’s worth to be exact) imagine training for 7yr’s but no fighting and generaly raiseing a family, then picture 7yr’s training fighting and senceless mindless destruction with nothing to hinder you...that’s the differance in power Vegeta rechived not to mention Babidi’s power naturaly raises a being’s power beyond it’s normal limitation’s.
So Vegeta was permanently at his best so to speak constantly at his pinical in power strenth speed and such, Goku on the other hand (being stronger than Vegeta anyway) had a great reseerve in power (SSJ3) to call on but in SSJ2 he was still alittle lacking to beat the Majin (if you watch their fight Vegeta give’s the greater ammount of hit’s and is constantly takeing Goku’s back also when Goku is hanging from the cliff realing Vegeta pick’s him up with a smug smile as if uneffected (clearly to Goku’s surprise) but anyway Vegeta and Goku were pretty even but the fight was stopped before their was a distinct winner...DAM!
anyway id have to say given the differance in Vegeta’s power since last he fought Brolly and the fact Vegeta is smarter faster and better skilled id give him the win due to these reason’s alone.
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Agreed. And you also have to remember about Gohan, he was not like he was when he fought Cell. He did not train like he did in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.
Yea When Gohan fought Brolly in Movie 10 he had not trained for about 5-7yr’s so he had got much weaker and the fact Gohan fought him only in SSJ and still had the strenth to pull Brolly’s Arm’s together speak’s volume’s about,
1. Imagine if that weakened Gohan went SSJ2
2. Imagine if the much stronger SSJ2 Gohan fought Brolly
3. Imagine if Majin Vegeta who is far beyond both in skill and power fought Brolly
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Kyle Knight wrote:
Yea When Gohan fought Brolly in Movie 10 he had not trained for about 5-7yr’s so he had got much weaker and the fact Gohan fought him only in SSJ and still had the strenth to pull Brolly’s Arm’s together speak’s volume’s about,
1. Imagine if that weakened Gohan went SSJ2
2. Imagine if the much stronger SSJ2 Gohan fought Brolly
3. Imagine if Majin Vegeta who is far beyond both in skill and power fought Brolly
If Majin Vegeta fought Broly and Toriyama made a movie of it, all hell would break loose. That would be one hell of a movie.
Well that would have been cool if Vegeta went to HFIL after his Final Explotion stunt and faced Brolly down their (both would have more durable Body’s down thir aswell).
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Kyle Knight wrote:
Well that would have been cool if Vegeta went to HFIL after his Final Explotion stunt and faced Brolly down their (both would have more durable Body’s down thir aswell).
Now that would be epic. I would love to see a movie like that.
It would not be Majin sadly when vegeta died he lost his bond with Babidi’s magic BUT! we know vsing Kid Buu Vegeta went SSJ2 so mabe due to the fact he is dead Vegeta could take the form of SSJ2 as we know Goku can handle SSJ3 easy cus he is dead but alive he struggle’s greatly.
So if anything it would be SSJ2 Vegeta vs LSSJ Brolly
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“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog"
Kyle Knight wrote:
It would not be Majin sadly when vegeta died he lost his bond with Babidi’s magic BUT! we know vsing Kid Buu Vegeta went SSJ2 so mabe due to the fact he is dead Vegeta could take the form of SSJ2 as we know Goku can handle SSJ3 easy cus he is dead but alive he struggle’s greatly.
So if anything it would be SSJ2 Vegeta vs LSSJ Brolly
Vegeta has a chance, but Broly might take it, since he is not in his Majin form where his power keeps increasing.
Vegeta’s power only encreases after battle but he is constantly at his pinickle in Majin and stronger than a regular Saiyan on the same level.
In SSJ2 Vegeta could still woop on Brolly as he would be stronger than SSJ2 Gohan was still the problem is Brolly would get stronger and Vegeta would get weaker with every attack.
I would say Vegeta would go on a pride bender beating on Brolly Brolly would slowly increase his power untill he own’s Vegeta then Vegeta would come to his sence’s and use his brain to outwit the brutish Brolly
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Kyle Knight wrote:
Vegeta’s power only encreases after battle but he is constantly at his pinickle in Majin and stronger than a regular Saiyan on the same level.
In SSJ2 Vegeta could still woop on Brolly as he would be stronger than SSJ2 Gohan was still the problem is Brolly would get stronger and Vegeta would get weaker with every attack.
I would say Vegeta would go on a pride bender beating on Brolly Brolly would slowly increase his power untill he own’s Vegeta then Vegeta would come to his sence’s and use his brain to outwit the brutish Brolly
Correct near Death then when they heal they get an ubber power boost more than training can provide that’s for sure.
also when a saiyan is brought back to life they become stronger also (Vegeta is ressurected in the Freiza Saga and speak’s of how his power will increase from death)
When Vegeta died he did not rechive a power boost of any kind after Buu but being dead he could sustain higher level’s of energy and power because of his new endurance (so a blessing in disguise)
when returning to life he would however become stronger
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“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog"
Kyle Knight wrote:
Correct near Death then when they heal they get an ubber power boost more than training can provide that’s for sure.
also when a saiyan is brought back to life they become stronger also (Vegeta is ressurected in the Freiza Saga and speak’s of how his power will increase from death)
When Vegeta died he did not rechive a power boost of any kind after Buu but being dead he could sustain higher level’s of energy and power because of his new endurance (so a blessing in disguise)
when returning to life he would however become stronger
as far as i know if he die from the battle his power is still not encrease unless he train and survived the battle.
Kyle Knight wrote:
Correct near Death then when they heal they get an ubber power boost more than training can provide that’s for sure.
also when a saiyan is brought back to life they become stronger also (Vegeta is ressurected in the Freiza Saga and speak’s of how his power will increase from death)
When Vegeta died he did not rechive a power boost of any kind after Buu but being dead he could sustain higher level’s of energy and power because of his new endurance (so a blessing in disguise)
when returning to life he would however become stronger
as far as i know if he die from the battle his power is still not encrease unless he train and survived the battle.
That is true. His power only increased in his Majin form.
Superman Prime wrote:
Yeah Gohan got weaker so he was somewhere around a SSFP.
Your forgetting Broly DOESN’T get weaker he only gets stronger. Also it is never stated Gohan got weaker. He may have fighting rust and may not be able to control his powers as well as he could before but I don’t believe he got weaker at all, I mean it’s not like the guy sat aroun the house drinking beer all day.