| 16 Apr 2008 07:46 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18  Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | My ultimate FF war ---
Genesis DoC vs Cloud DoC vs Chaos DoC vs Sephiroth AC Sephiroth AC ************* 50% (votes so far 2) Chaos Doc ******* 25% (votes so far 1) Cloud DoC ******* 25% (votes so far 1) Genesis DoC 0% Only registered users may vote.
“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog" | | | | 16 Apr 2008 07:50 pm |
Buster Sword Guest | Sephiroth stomps them all.
Intangibilty and nobody does shit to him, uses the -ve lifestream and it’s all over for those guys.
We don’t know Genesis’s power yet after CC so that would be speculation, we do know that he won’t be more powerful than Sephiroth though.
Problem with Chaos and Cloud, they are mostly limited to physical ability, where as Sephiroth isn’t. | | | 16 Apr 2008 08:02 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | Cloud can fire beam’s from his sword and now has yet another year of experiance since AC, Chaos can fire energy through his gun’s and palm’s and is a dam sight faster than the Roth Genesis was on par with Seph in CC now he has been in cristalized Mako for many year’s with J-Cell’s it’s safe to say he is very close to Seph at this point plus he is alot smarter to boot.
The V Lifestream im not even sure it can be used as a weapon by Sephiroth could you provide more proof please bud?, the pure lifestream had no effect on Vincent at all he even landed on it as chaos (the V Lifestream remind’s me of Nero’s stagnant Mako and darkness witch Vincent could resist).
Each of Seph’s opponent’s seem rather well chosen here with a fair chance of winning for i suspect Genesis also has spiritual power’s from witch he can play with (he could already fire energy wave’s in rapid succession). ---
“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog" | | | 16 Apr 2008 08:03 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 10 Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,404 OFFLINE | Buster Sword wrote:
Sephiroth stomps them all.
Intangibilty and nobody does shit to him, uses the -ve lifestream and it’s all over for those guys.
We don’t know Genesis’s power yet after CC so that would be speculation, we do know that he won’t be more powerful than Sephiroth though.
Problem with Chaos and Cloud, they are mostly limited to physical ability, where as Sephiroth isn’t.
Unless Sephiroth is limited only to his abilities demonstrated in AC then the fight becomes much harder to call. | | | 16 Apr 2008 08:09 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | Well as we have never seen anything beyond AC that’s kinda how we must portray Sephiroth useing what we know him to have at his disposal (we all know he is more powerful than he let on in AC as is the new Genesis so try to estimate it if possible please lol), plus Cloud would also have improved somewhat. ---
“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog" | | | 16 Apr 2008 08:19 pm |
or just Red Rep: 72 Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 16,991 OFFLINE | Sephiroth rapestomps. ---
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Buster Sword Guest | Cloud can fire beam’s from his sword and now has yet another year of experiance since AC, Chaos can fire energy through his gun’s and palm’s and is a dam sight faster than the Roth Genesis was on par with Seph in CC now he has been in cristalized Mako for many year’s with J-Cell’s it’s safe to say he is very close to Seph at this point plus he is alot smarter to boot.
Sephiroth was using warp speeds in CC, he’s even faster in AC etc. Sephiroth’s other abilities remember...
He may be closer to Sephiroth but I doubt he will be on par.
V Lifestream im not even sure it can be used as a weapon by Sephiroth could you provide more proof please bud?, the pure lifestream had no effect on Vincent at all he even landed on it as chaos (the V Lifestream remind’s me of Nero’s stagnant Mako and darkness witch Vincent could resist).
Yeah it does say somewhere what it can do, like pretty much drain energy.
The pure lifestream isn’t the negative one, it doesn’t drain energy from you, it does quite the opposite. Mako is kinda different from lifestream, like materia is different from mako.
Each of Seph’s opponent’s seem rather well chosen here with a fair chance of winning for i suspect Genesis also has spiritual power’s from witch he can play with (he could already fire energy wave’s in rapid succession).
I know but these didn’t really hurt him in training, as he came right through it.
Unless Sephiroth is limited only to his abilities demonstrated in AC then the fight becomes much harder to call.
It would indeed. But I doubt he’s limited to AC abilities because theoritically he’d be less powerful than in VII. | | | 16 Apr 2008 08:32 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 10Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,404 OFFLINE | In a novel of FF7, I think it’s called The road to another smile or something, I know it has smile in the title, Denzel said the lifestream(The lifestream that destroyed Meteor) killed his grandmother. Perhaps the lifestream has different modes. Like, A life giving energy, One that brings death, and one that keeps the planet alive. | | | 16 Apr 2008 08:40 pm |
or just Red Rep: 72Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 16,991 OFFLINE | RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
In a novel of FF7, I think it’s called The road to another smile or something, I know it has smile in the title, Denzel said the lifestream(The lifestream that destroyed Meteor) killed his grandmother. Perhaps the lifestream has different modes. Like, A life giving energy, One that brings death, and one that keeps the planet alive.
The lifestream that defended the planet from Meteor killed thousands. Sephiroth controls it.
| | | 16 Apr 2008 08:42 pm |
Buster Sword Guest | In a novel of FF7, I think it’s called The road to another smile or something, I know it has smile in the title, Denzel said the lifestream(The lifestream that destroyed Meteor) killed his grandmother. Perhaps the lifestream has different modes. Like, A life giving energy, One that brings death, and one that keeps the planet alive.
]Yes that is true, I think it depends on how it is used, I don’t think it’s natural purpose is as a weapon, as when in danger it created the WEAPONS for self defence, it’s more of a white mage if you get me, what Sephiroth is basically doing, is using it as a black mage. | | | 16 Apr 2008 08:42 pm |
Not your average guest Guest | RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
In a novel of FF7, I think it’s called The road to another smile or something, I know it has smile in the title, Denzel said the lifestream(The lifestream that destroyed Meteor) killed his grandmother. Perhaps the lifestream has different modes. Like, A life giving energy, One that brings death, and one that keeps the planet alive.
The lifestream is pure energy, nothing more. Think of the body as an electronic device. When you run too much energy through it, what happens? It blows a fuse and ceases to function. | | | 16 Apr 2008 09:10 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | Buster Sword wrote:
Cloud can fire beam’s from his sword and now has yet another year of experiance since AC, Chaos can fire energy through his gun’s and palm’s and is a dam sight faster than the Roth Genesis was on par with Seph in CC now he has been in cristalized Mako for many year’s with J-Cell’s it’s safe to say he is very close to Seph at this point plus he is alot smarter to boot.
Sephiroth was using warp speeds in CC, he’s even faster in AC etc. Sephiroth’s other abilities remember...
He may be closer to Sephiroth but I doubt he will be on par.
V Lifestream im not even sure it can be used as a weapon by Sephiroth could you provide more proof please bud?, the pure lifestream had no effect on Vincent at all he even landed on it as chaos (the V Lifestream remind’s me of Nero’s stagnant Mako and darkness witch Vincent could resist).
Yeah it does say somewhere what it can do, like pretty much drain energy.
The pure lifestream isn’t the negative one, it doesn’t drain energy from you, it does quite the opposite. Mako is kinda different from lifestream, like materia is different from mako.
Each of Seph’s opponent’s seem rather well chosen here with a fair chance of winning for i suspect Genesis also has spiritual power’s from witch he can play with (he could already fire energy wave’s in rapid succession).
I know but these didn’t really hurt him in training, as he came right through it.
Unless Sephiroth is limited only to his abilities demonstrated in AC then the fight becomes much harder to call.
It would indeed. But I doubt he’s limited to AC abilities because theoritically he’d be less powerful than in VII.
1. so he can move at warp speed we know this much however he did not show this in AC, Illution’s won’t work on Cloud or Chaos and probably not the Intelligence of Genesis either, Genesis was on par in CC so with J-Cell’s he has evened the skale’s out my assumption place’s them on par.
2. Drain what energy? Cloud has none, Chaos generate’s his own Mako Feild and has been uneffected by many form’s of energy such as life stream and dark mako, and Genesis has spiritual power’s also.
3. Seph was given time to free himself with his blade beam’s, however had their been no inturruption’s Genesis could have delivered quight the blow.
4. Seph has all his power’s here
“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog" | | | 16 Apr 2008 09:12 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 10Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,404 OFFLINE | Red_Calibur9 wrote:
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
In a novel of FF7, I think it’s called The road to another smile or something, I know it has smile in the title, Denzel said the lifestream(The lifestream that destroyed Meteor) killed his grandmother. Perhaps the lifestream has different modes. Like, A life giving energy, One that brings death, and one that keeps the planet alive.
The lifestream that defended the planet from Meteor killed thousands. Sephiroth controls it.
He didn’t control it at the time, unless destroying his own meteor was part of his master plan all along. | | | 16 Apr 2008 09:16 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
In a novel of FF7, I think it’s called The road to another smile or something, I know it has smile in the title, Denzel said the lifestream(The lifestream that destroyed Meteor) killed his grandmother. Perhaps the lifestream has different modes. Like, A life giving energy, One that brings death, and one that keeps the planet alive.
The lifestream that defended the planet from Meteor killed thousands. Sephiroth controls it.
He didn’t control it at the time, unless destroying his own meteor was part of his master plan all along.
Seph dousent control the pure Life Steam just the neggative one
“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog" | | | 18 Apr 2008 07:39 am |
Buster Sword Guest | 1. so he can move at warp speed we know this much however he did not show this in AC, Illution’s won’t work on Cloud or Chaos and probably not the Intelligence of Genesis either, Genesis was on par in CC so with J-Cell’s he has evened the skale’s out my assumption place’s them on par.
He actually did use warp speed in AC, to get into the building. Illusions, shape shifting, Chaos and Cloud would know it’s an illusion, but they would still be in it. Sephiroths intelligence is different to Genesis, in CC he got fucked I agree, but the way in which he destroys Cloud’s mind in VII, shows he is no dumy.
You acn think he’s on par, but until SE say themselves, it’s just a fairly accurate ASSUMPTION.
. Drain what energy? Cloud has none, Chaos generate’s his own Mako Feild and has been uneffected by many form’s of energy such as life stream and dark mako, and Genesis has spiritual power’s also.
They all have spirit energy, Chaos didn’t get a fully blown force of lifestream, like the same what destroyed meteor. The -ve lifestream isn’t necessarily energy, it actually takes spirit energy.
3. Seph was given time to free himself with his blade beam’s, however had their been no inturruption’s Genesis could have delivered quight the blow.
How would Genesis give him a blow? He’d have to go inside too and lets not forget Seph' can go through things.
4. Seph has all his power’s here
All his power means a win.
Seph dousent control the pure Life Steam just the neggative one
He had some control of it, as we see he made a sword from the pure lifestream, plus he’s stronger than the pure lifestream as he has resisted it’s dilution. | | | 19 Apr 2008 10:30 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | 1. Illution’s dident work for Roth in Vii so Cloud and Chaos wont be suseptible to it now will they Genesis has already outsmarted Sephiroth once before and his grand desighn has yet to be seen plus Cloud has become more resistent to Seph’s mind game’s.
2. Vincent (not Chaos) pushed Yuffie out the way of a huge part of the Life Stream and remained uneffected plus Chaos has been shown to absorb energy aswell so it’s a tough call.
3. Seph was trapped inside Genesis attack Genesis was going to fire an even greater ammount of energy to finish Sephiroth, but Angeal inttervene’s saying he will destroy them all (so Gen could have really fucked seph up)
4. Agreed he has some control over it but not complete ---
“It is better to die on your feet like a man, than to live life on your knee’s like a fucking dog" | | | 20 Apr 2008 07:25 pm |
Buster Sword Guest | 1. Illution’s dident work for Roth in Vii so Cloud and Chaos wont be suseptible to it now will they Genesis has already outsmarted Sephiroth once before and his grand desighn has yet to be seen plus Cloud has become more resistent to Seph’s mind game’s.
I know they KNEW it was an illusion, but they couldn’t get out until Sephiroth made them come out. Sephiroth isn’t dumb though, and lets not forget shapeshifting. EVERYONE got fooled by that.
. Vincent (not Chaos) pushed Yuffie out the way of a huge part of the Life Stream and remained uneffected plus Chaos has been shown to absorb energy aswell so it’s a tough call
Cloud has been in more contact with the lifestream than Vincent and it fucked him up remember? Chaos may can draw energy, but Sephiroth’s -ve lifestream pretty much was draining the planets.
. Seph was trapped inside Genesis attack Genesis was going to fire an even greater ammount of energy to finish Sephiroth, but Angeal inttervene’s saying he will destroy them all (so Gen could have really fucked seph up)
I somehow doubt that was true, because he fired that attack in Angeals face, and he just went flying, then, Genesis, pretty much got his ass handed to him.
4. Agreed he has some control over it but not complete
True, but he does have his own, and his barrier, I’ve read something about his barrier that would make Sephiroth withstand multiple city destroyers, (Cloud survived mega flare I know) but this sounds more awesome, I’ll show you the quote later. | | | 20 Apr 2008 07:27 pm |
Knight of Ratatosk Rep: 36 Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,141 OFFLINE | I do not even understand this topic.
Genesis DoC: Unknown potential. Should not be included in the poll.
Cloud DoC: Unknown potential. VS Rosso scene does not count. Should not be included in the poll.
Chaos DoC: Clearly stronger than Cloud.
Sephiroth AC: Stronger than Weiss. But probably weaker than Omega Weiss. Logically speaking, since Chaos>Omega Weiss and Omega Weiss>Sephiroth, Chaos>Sephiroth. ---
 | | | 20 Apr 2008 07:31 pm |
Buster Sword Guest | I do not even understand this topic.
Genesis DoC: Unknown potential. Should not be included in the poll.
Cloud DoC: Unknown potential. VS Rosso scene does not count. Should not be included in the poll.
Chaos DoC: Clearly stronger than Cloud.
Sephiroth AC: Stronger than Weiss. But probably weaker than Omega Weiss. Logically speaking, since Chaos>Omega Weiss and Omega Weiss>Sephiroth, Chaos>Sephiroth.
Well Cloud beat Rosso, as it says in the Compilation Ultimania, and Sephiroth in AC is > Everyone. | | | 20 Apr 2008 07:32 pm |
Knight of Ratatosk Rep: 36Joined: 05 Oct 2007 Posts: 5,141 OFFLINE | Buster Sword wrote:
I do not even understand this topic.
Genesis DoC: Unknown potential. Should not be included in the poll.
Cloud DoC: Unknown potential. VS Rosso scene does not count. Should not be included in the poll.
Chaos DoC: Clearly stronger than Cloud.
Sephiroth AC: Stronger than Weiss. But probably weaker than Omega Weiss. Logically speaking, since Chaos>Omega Weiss and Omega Weiss>Sephiroth, Chaos>Sephiroth.
Well Cloud beat Rosso, as it says in the Compilation Ultimania, and Sephiroth in AC is > Everyone.
Sephiroth in AC is > Everyone?
Does it really say that in Compilation Ultimania?
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