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24 May 2008 12:57 am
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
the21gamer wrote: Since when has Gplex backed anything up? Oh yeah, he’s the master strawman.

I have to disagree, he has provided sources like websites and videos before.


unlikely...

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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
the21gamer wrote: Since when has Gplex backed anything up? Oh yeah, he’s the master strawman.

I have to disagree, he has provided sources like websites and videos before.


Which had absolutely nothing to do with the argument whether or not God exists.
I know evolution is real. Posting videos showing evolution is real only proves it’s real but I never argued that evolution wasn’t real and evolution being real doesn’t disprove God. It’s an ASSUMPTION Gplex makes.

Yes but he posted those videos because users like Itachi and Seed kept saying it wasn’t real and such so he proved evolution to them.

Thks, I was going thinking “man now I have to go back and quote myself on all this stuff”

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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
the21gamer wrote: Since when has Gplex backed anything up? Oh yeah, he’s the master strawman.

I have to disagree, he has provided sources like websites and videos before.


unlikely...

The website and videos I gave you would be more then enought to get you first you first year of biology, yet you still deny it.

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Tyreaus wrote: You should be respecting all beliefs.

Again tell me why I am the asshole for telling him that I will not respect the kkk or nazism...

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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
the21gamer wrote: Since when has Gplex backed anything up? Oh yeah, he’s the master strawman.

I have to disagree, he has provided sources like websites and videos before.


Which had absolutely nothing to do with the argument whether or not God exists.
I know evolution is real. Posting videos showing evolution is real only proves it’s real but I never argued that evolution wasn’t real and evolution being real doesn’t disprove God. It’s an ASSUMPTION Gplex makes.

Yes but he posted those videos because users like Itachi and Seed kept saying it wasn’t real and such so he proved evolution to them.


Leave him alone. I can show videos proving anything I want but it’s not proof of what is being argued.

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27 May 2008 08:41 am
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Gplex wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
the21gamer wrote: Since when has Gplex backed anything up? Oh yeah, he’s the master strawman.

I have to disagree, he has provided sources like websites and videos before.


Which had absolutely nothing to do with the argument whether or not God exists.
I know evolution is real. Posting videos showing evolution is real only proves it’s real but I never argued that evolution wasn’t real and evolution being real doesn’t disprove God. It’s an ASSUMPTION Gplex makes.

Yes but he posted those videos because users like Itachi and Seed kept saying it wasn’t real and such so he proved evolution to them.

Thks, I was going thinking “man now I have to go back and quote myself on all this stuff”

Itachi Uchiha wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
the21gamer wrote: Since when has Gplex backed anything up? Oh yeah, he’s the master strawman.

I have to disagree, he has provided sources like websites and videos before.


unlikely...

The website and videos I gave you would be more then enought to get you first you first year of biology, yet you still deny it.


And you keep saying Qur’an not valid...

Qur’an,Life=Water
Evolution=water


oh god...

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Itachi Uchiha wrote: And you keep saying Qur’an not valid...

Qur’an,Life=Water
Evolution=water


oh god...

No Itachi evolution explains the diversity of life not how, where, or why life started.

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Gplex wrote:
Tyreaus wrote: You should be respecting all beliefs.

Again tell me why I am the asshole for telling him that I will not respect the kkk or nazism...


Tyreaus wrote: You should be respecting all beliefs. Not necessarily agreeing with them, but respecting them. Certain exceptions such as the KKK believing black people are inferior may not garner as much respect if any at all because of their intents to harm. Other religions and beliefs are not always directly doing this (I can’t think of any, but there are likely a few that are), and don’t really deserve any disrespect.


Perhaps reading my entire post would give an answer. smiley

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Tyreaus wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Tyreaus wrote: You should be respecting all beliefs.

Again tell me why I am the asshole for telling him that I will not respect the kkk or nazism...


Tyreaus wrote: You should be respecting all beliefs. Not necessarily agreeing with them, but respecting them. Certain exceptions such as the KKK believing black people are inferior may not garner as much respect if any at all because of their intents to harm. Other religions and beliefs are not always directly doing this (I can’t think of any, but there are likely a few that are), and don’t really deserve any disrespect.


Perhaps reading my entire post would give an answer. smiley

Not all kkk members cause harm, so you must respect them, the same to nazism, why do you think I pulled this out of your sentence, because the rest doesnt make sense.

Beliefs should only be respected when justifiyed.

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Gplex wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Tyreaus wrote: You should be respecting all beliefs.

Again tell me why I am the asshole for telling him that I will not respect the kkk or nazism...


Tyreaus wrote: You should be respecting all beliefs. Not necessarily agreeing with them, but respecting them. Certain exceptions such as the KKK believing black people are inferior may not garner as much respect if any at all because of their intents to harm. Other religions and beliefs are not always directly doing this (I can’t think of any, but there are likely a few that are), and don’t really deserve any disrespect.


Perhaps reading my entire post would give an answer. smiley

Not all kkk members cause harm, so you must respect them, the same to nazism, why do you think I pulled this out of your sentence, because the rest doesnt make sense.

Beliefs should only be respected when justifiyed.


KKK puts African American people lower than white people, thereby hurting the African Americans. Nazism does the same with Jews. Those are part of the beliefs. It need not necessarily be physical harm.

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Tyreaus wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Tyreaus wrote: You should be respecting all beliefs.

Again tell me why I am the asshole for telling him that I will not respect the kkk or nazism...


Tyreaus wrote: You should be respecting all beliefs. Not necessarily agreeing with them, but respecting them. Certain exceptions such as the KKK believing black people are inferior may not garner as much respect if any at all because of their intents to harm. Other religions and beliefs are not always directly doing this (I can’t think of any, but there are likely a few that are), and don’t really deserve any disrespect.


Perhaps reading my entire post would give an answer. smiley

Not all kkk members cause harm, so you must respect them, the same to nazism, why do you think I pulled this out of your sentence, because the rest doesnt make sense.

Beliefs should only be respected when justifiyed.


KKK puts African American people lower than white people, thereby hurting the African Americans. Nazism does the same with Jews. Those are part of the beliefs. It need not necessarily be physical harm.


What if a supremacist merely likes his own race more than the others but doesn’t hate the other races?

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Sean of the Living wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Tyreaus wrote: You should be respecting all beliefs.

Again tell me why I am the asshole for telling him that I will not respect the kkk or nazism...


Tyreaus wrote: You should be respecting all beliefs. Not necessarily agreeing with them, but respecting them. Certain exceptions such as the KKK believing black people are inferior may not garner as much respect if any at all because of their intents to harm. Other religions and beliefs are not always directly doing this (I can’t think of any, but there are likely a few that are), and don’t really deserve any disrespect.


Perhaps reading my entire post would give an answer. smiley

Not all kkk members cause harm, so you must respect them, the same to nazism, why do you think I pulled this out of your sentence, because the rest doesnt make sense.

Beliefs should only be respected when justifiyed.


KKK puts African American people lower than white people, thereby hurting the African Americans. Nazism does the same with Jews. Those are part of the beliefs. It need not necessarily be physical harm.


What if a supremacist merely likes his own race more than the others but doesn’t hate the other races?


I think Nazism and the KKK are founded more on actually hating a particular race(s), not just promoting their own. Even then, most cases (esp. those ones) would have to step on the toes of other races to put themselves in a higher position.

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Why religion/belief deserves respect, more then anything else.?


It deserves more than anything else cuz it takes lives...! How many religion wars we`ve been in..? that`s the answer....cuz that`s the most serious thing people do feel....!

Respect or not doesn`t matter....but showing disrespect maybe problem...!

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Di5turbing wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
the21gamer wrote: Since when has Gplex backed anything up? Oh yeah, he’s the master strawman.

I have to disagree, he has provided sources like websites and videos before.


Which had absolutely nothing to do with the argument whether or not God exists.
I know evolution is real. Posting videos showing evolution is real only proves it’s real but I never argued that evolution wasn’t real and evolution being real doesn’t disprove God. It’s an ASSUMPTION Gplex makes.

Yes but he posted those videos because users like Itachi and Seed kept saying it wasn’t real and such so he proved evolution to them.


Leave him alone. I can show videos proving anything I want but it’s not proof of what is being argued.

Links to websites are usually pretty good, If I think their might be something wrong, thats when I talk a walk down to my local libary and have a little read.

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Tyreaus wrote: KKK puts African American people lower than white people, thereby hurting the African Americans. Nazism does the same with Jews. Those are part of the beliefs. It need not necessarily be physical harm.

Oh so, christians putting atheist at risk, getting them fired, not letting them into office etc etc... I get you now, we are on the same page grin

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Gplex wrote:
Tyreaus wrote: KKK puts African American people lower than white people, thereby hurting the African Americans. Nazism does the same with Jews. Those are part of the beliefs. It need not necessarily be physical harm.

Oh so, christians putting atheist at risk, getting them fired, not letting them into office etc etc... I get you now, we are on the same page grin

You give atheist a bad name.

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dukedas wrote: Why religion/belief deserves respect, more then anything else.?


It deserves more than anything else cuz it takes lives...! How many religion wars we`ve been in..? that`s the answer....cuz that`s the most serious thing people do feel....!

Respect or not doesn`t matter....but showing disrespect maybe problem...!


Thats about as intelligent as the bumbling fools from the bush administration going on about being a patriot is not questioning the government.

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Gplex wrote:
Tyreaus wrote: KKK puts African American people lower than white people, thereby hurting the African Americans. Nazism does the same with Jews. Those are part of the beliefs. It need not necessarily be physical harm.

Oh so, christians putting atheist at risk, getting them fired, not letting them into office etc etc... I get you now, we are on the same page grin


Maybe in America, but that’s surely not the case everywhere. My friend gets picked on by his Atheist boss at work just because he’s Roman Catholic, and all the religious kids at school get teased, a lot of the religious people around town are considred “nutters”, many religious scientists around the world are not taken seriously by Atheistic ones, even for their beliefs outside of religion and God.
Try not to be so egocentric next time.

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Sean of the Living wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Tyreaus wrote: KKK puts African American people lower than white people, thereby hurting the African Americans. Nazism does the same with Jews. Those are part of the beliefs. It need not necessarily be physical harm.

Oh so, christians putting atheist at risk, getting them fired, not letting them into office etc etc... I get you now, we are on the same page grin


Maybe in America, but that’s surely not the case everywhere. My friend gets picked on by his Atheist boss at work just because he’s Roman Catholic, and all the religious kids at school get teased, a lot of the religious people around town are considred “nutters”, many religious scientists around the world are not taken seriously by Atheistic ones, even for their beliefs outside of religion and God.
Try not to be so egocentric next time.

Picked on, is not the same as firing him. I think someone who believes in a fairly tale is a nutter, religious books are no diffrent.

Sean of the Living wrote: There is a difference between stupid beliefs and evil ones. Just because someone believes something that isn’t particuarly smart doesn’t mean they deserve the same disrespect as someone who believes in something as evil as Nazism. Some of you are making no distinction.

Who is going to judge good or evil? right or wrong would be much easier to agree on.

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Gplex wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
the21gamer wrote: Since when has Gplex backed anything up? Oh yeah, he’s the master strawman.

I have to disagree, he has provided sources like websites and videos before.


Which had absolutely nothing to do with the argument whether or not God exists.
I know evolution is real. Posting videos showing evolution is real only proves it’s real but I never argued that evolution wasn’t real and evolution being real doesn’t disprove God. It’s an ASSUMPTION Gplex makes.

Yes but he posted those videos because users like Itachi and Seed kept saying it wasn’t real and such so he proved evolution to them.

Thks, I was going thinking “man now I have to go back and quote myself on all this stuff”

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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
the21gamer wrote: Since when has Gplex backed anything up? Oh yeah, he’s the master strawman.

I have to disagree, he has provided sources like websites and videos before.


unlikely...

The website and videos I gave you would be more then enought to get you first you first year of biology, yet you still deny it.


and what biology said about life...??? comes from clothes(rats)...???

no right...


miller...??? failed...

evolution said life comes from water... WTF...

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Gplex wrote: I cant see it. If you told me you believe in santa and I thought you where serious, why wouldnt I be allow to laught at you. If someone thinks that Bush is the greatest president ever in the history of the US, am I supose to just node and respect that belief. When I read about scientology and operation freak out, that they believe that it was justifiy. Do I just sit there and node, respecting that belief. Do I just sit their and respect a kkk member spouting off some bs, or do I get up and ridicule that person. Why does your religion/belief deserve more respect then anything else, I can think up...
Has it ever accure to any of these people that maybe, just maybe, they might try and use their own “respect all beliefs”, belief, on my little belief, about not having to respect those who can not or will not justifiy their beliefs..


Religion is the way a lot of people live their lives. You have no right as a human to disrespect a way of life. You can criticize religious practicies but when you start defacing it, that’s when people get pissed off. People like you are pretty much the scum of the planet. You’re the type of person that gives the non-believers a bad name. Sure, you’ve got the facts but you don’t know how to present them in a way that wouldn’t have gotten you hung by the neck 200 years ago.

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