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03 Jun 2008 06:23 pm
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U justify it when ur trying to witness is u dont jus go up to somebody and say believe in god but if someone tries to tell u something else u should respect it but dont have to agree with it

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Astro Boy X wrote: U justify it when ur trying to witness is u dont jus go up to somebody and say believe in god but if someone tries to tell u something else u should respect it but dont have to agree with it



I respect NOTHING

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03 Jun 2008 06:26 pm
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Gplex wrote:
Tyreaus wrote: KKK puts African American people lower than white people, thereby hurting the African Americans. Nazism does the same with Jews. Those are part of the beliefs. It need not necessarily be physical harm.

Oh so, christians putting atheist at risk, getting them fired, not letting them into office etc etc... I get you now, we are on the same page grin


If those people are doing it for that type of a reason they don’t deserve respect. At the same token, however, disrespecting someone because they are christian doesn’t make you much better. If their religion or belief is saying not to give a job to someone that is atheist and they live by that then, obviously, that religion or belief starts becoming disrespectful and the reasons to give it respect diminish. Though it also does depend on how much disrespect they decide to give, again such as the case with Nazis. It also works on a similar level with individuals, I suppose.
Personally I don’t care much for Christianity, but for beliefs such as Buddhism or even other theistic religions (not saying Buddhism is one) it’s a different story.

Edit: Astroboy, your sig is way too large.

Edit2: I’m likely to be going at this the completely wrong way or seeing things totally wrong, which I know and apologize for in advance.

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Astro Boy X wrote: U justify it when ur trying to witness is u dont jus go up to somebody and say believe in god but if someone tries to tell u something else u should respect it but dont have to agree with it

I got one step further and tell them why I dont agree with it, and it has been labled as disrespect, so I just went with it.

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Tyreaus wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Tyreaus wrote: KKK puts African American people lower than white people, thereby hurting the African Americans. Nazism does the same with Jews. Those are part of the beliefs. It need not necessarily be physical harm.

Oh so, christians putting atheist at risk, getting them fired, not letting them into office etc etc... I get you now, we are on the same page grin


If those people are doing it for that type of a reason they don’t deserve respect. At the same token, however, disrespecting someone because they are christian doesn’t make you much better. If their religion or belief is saying not to give a job to someone that is atheist and they live by that then, obviously, that religion or belief starts becoming disrespectful and the reasons to give it respect diminish. Though it also does depend on how much disrespect they decide to give, again such as the case with Nazis. It also works on a similar level with individuals, I suppose.
Personally I don’t care much for Christianity, but for beliefs such as Buddhism or even other theistic religions (not saying Buddhism is one) it’s a different story.

Edit: Astroboy, your sig is way too large.

Edit2: I’m likely to be going at this the completely wrong way or seeing things totally wrong, which I know and apologize for in advance.


apology accepted... I putting forward that all beliefs should be justify before respected, not giving a atheist or religious person a job because of their beliefs can not be justifiyed, unless that person beliefs can not be justified too, eg kkk christian, nazi atheist - yes you dont have to be christian to be a nazi.

without this, respecting other peoples beliefs, comes down to your own beliefs, not if their beliefs are true/evil or not.

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No belief deserves automatic respect just for being a belief, but I wouldn’t say that any deserve automatic disrespect either. I think you have to go case by case. But I do see where you are trying to go with this and I agree that religion gets way too much respect just for being religion.

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04 Jun 2008 02:54 am
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Of course beliefs/religion should be respected. However they should also be questioned. Never get confortable with your own beliefs. Because if your not open to new ideas then how can you ever be sure that yours is correct. Not to mention it furthers your beliefs.

Always be open minded and always question. Then you’ll gain my respect.

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04 Jun 2008 02:58 am
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Zucas wrote: Of course beliefs/religion should be respected. However they should also be questioned. Never get confortable with your own beliefs. Because if your not open to new ideas then how can you ever be sure that yours is correct. Not to mention it furthers your beliefs.

Always be open minded and always question. Then you’ll gain my respect.


Well if you define respect as a right to hold it then yeah, but I think most people are defining respect as withholding questioning.

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Nothing is respectalbe to the point of no questioning unless its a fact. And no religion of philosophy is fact. Thus it is questionable and always will be. And everyone should be open minded about them all. If everyone was open minded when it came to this, then we’d all be able to discuss them in a civilized fashion. But humans are naturally bias.

But yea I mean respect in the way of having the right to believe in it.

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Zucas wrote: Nothing is respectalbe to the point of no questioning unless its a fact. And no religion of philosophy is fact. Thus it is questionable and always will be. And everyone should be open minded about them all. If everyone was open minded when it came to this, then we’d all be able to discuss them in a civilized fashion. But humans are naturally bias.

But yea I mean respect in the way of having the right to believe in it.

Yes!! Couldn’t have said it better.
But having the right to believe in what you want doesn’t give you the right to be offended so much that you think that the people of “offended” you should be silenced.

Oh and everything should be questioned, even if its a known fact, that way something thats not a fact, can’t slip into the fact catagory without people noticing.

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Of course it doesn’t give you the right to be offended. If everyone was open minded about their beliefs, theoretically no one would be offended.

Should facts be questioned? Well it depends if we are on the same page about a fact. If something is undeniably correct and can’t be proven wrong, that’s my definition of a fact. Thus it shouldn’t be questioned, because it’s unquestionable technically. Normally science takes care of this for us, cause unlike everything else, they hardly call anything a fact until they are 100% sure and not afraid to go back on their own word if they make a mistake.

But that’s my definition of a fact which is why I won’t question it because according to my definition it’s unquestionable.

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05 Jun 2008 02:48 am
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Then nobody will be offended by my statement that Gplex is a dumbass and his atheistic religion can suck it. smiley

Oh no. I am an atheist! shocked

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05 Jun 2008 06:40 pm
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Well I’m not offended haha.

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Zucas wrote: But yea I mean respect in the way of having the right to believe in it.

Thats has nothing to do with respect, it is your right. Respect and your rights have nothing to do with what I am saying.

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Zucas wrote: Of course it doesn’t give you the right to be offended. If everyone was open minded about their beliefs, theoretically no one would be offended.

Should facts be questioned? Well it depends if we are on the same page about a fact. If something is undeniably correct and can’t be proven wrong, that’s my definition of a fact. Thus it shouldn’t be questioned, because it’s unquestionable technically. Normally science takes care of this for us, cause unlike everything else, they hardly call anything a fact until they are 100% sure and not afraid to go back on their own word if they make a mistake.

But that’s my definition of a fact which is why I won’t question it because according to my definition it’s unquestionable.

Actually just sitting their and calling someone a dumbass, and getting offended, is my right, OP not calling me a dumbass because he thinks what Im saying is dumb, he calling me that because he wants me to shut up.

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06 Jun 2008 02:45 am
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Gplex wrote:
Zucas wrote: Of course it doesn’t give you the right to be offended. If everyone was open minded about their beliefs, theoretically no one would be offended.

Should facts be questioned? Well it depends if we are on the same page about a fact. If something is undeniably correct and can’t be proven wrong, that’s my definition of a fact. Thus it shouldn’t be questioned, because it’s unquestionable technically. Normally science takes care of this for us, cause unlike everything else, they hardly call anything a fact until they are 100% sure and not afraid to go back on their own word if they make a mistake.

But that’s my definition of a fact which is why I won’t question it because according to my definition it’s unquestionable.

Actually just sitting their and calling someone a dumbass, and getting offended, is my right, OP not calling me a dumbass because he thinks what Im saying is dumb, he calling me that because he wants me to shut up.


Yea all that is a word jumble I’m sure of it. Cause right now it makes no sense.

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Zucas wrote:
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Zucas wrote: Of course it doesn’t give you the right to be offended. If everyone was open minded about their beliefs, theoretically no one would be offended.

Should facts be questioned? Well it depends if we are on the same page about a fact. If something is undeniably correct and can’t be proven wrong, that’s my definition of a fact. Thus it shouldn’t be questioned, because it’s unquestionable technically. Normally science takes care of this for us, cause unlike everything else, they hardly call anything a fact until they are 100% sure and not afraid to go back on their own word if they make a mistake.

But that’s my definition of a fact which is why I won’t question it because according to my definition it’s unquestionable.

Actually just sitting their and calling someone a dumbass. Getting offended, is my right, OP not calling me a dumbass because he thinks what Im saying is dumb, he calling me that because he wants me to shut up.


Yea all that is a word jumble I’m sure of it. Cause right now it makes no sense.

omg I did it again lol...
Getting offended, is my right, he is basicly just throwing out personal insult after insult, and not really debating.

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Gplex wrote:
Di5turbing wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
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the21gamer wrote: Since when has Gplex backed anything up? Oh yeah, he’s the master strawman.

I have to disagree, he has provided sources like websites and videos before.


Which had absolutely nothing to do with the argument whether or not God exists.
I know evolution is real. Posting videos showing evolution is real only proves it’s real but I never argued that evolution wasn’t real and evolution being real doesn’t disprove God. It’s an ASSUMPTION Gplex makes.

Yes but he posted those videos because users like Itachi and Seed kept saying it wasn’t real and such so he proved evolution to them.


Leave him alone. I can show videos proving anything I want but it’s not proof of what is being argued.

Links to websites are usually pretty good, If I think their might be something wrong, thats when I talk a walk down to my local libary and have a little read.


but all goes right on through your pencil thin head so you twist everything so you can take it all out on religious people.

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