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17 Apr 2008 08:55 pm
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NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
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Itachi Uchiha wrote: Do you believe in Jinn, Satan and Ghost...???

CAN SCIENCES REACH THAT LEVEL OF REALM...???

Answer this first... atheist... btw you and these universe are proof that god is exist...


No. I don’t believe in anything I cannot see physically.

The universe is proof? No it is not. Anything could have made the universe.

If you are saying God created the universe... what created God?

Want some proof of God’s non existance? Look around you. Look at the pain and suffering. Do you think a loving, caring God would throw us in this world of misery and hate?


And do you expect God to do everything for you? to fix all of your problems? Then what is the point of free will? We have to learn to do things for ourselves, not to let God do everything for us.



Why wouldn’t he? He has the power doesn’t he? What does he have to hide?


Why would he? Does he have to do everything for you?


Why not? He is all powerful. His power is limitless, am i right?

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17 Apr 2008 08:56 pm
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petrofsky wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote: Do you believe in Jinn, Satan and Ghost...???

CAN SCIENCES REACH THAT LEVEL OF REALM...???

Answer this first... atheist... btw you and these universe are proof that god is exist...


No. I don’t believe in anything I cannot see physically.

The universe is proof? No it is not. Anything could have made the universe.

If you are saying God created the universe... what created God?

Want some proof of God’s non existance? Look around you. Look at the pain and suffering. Do you think a loving, caring God would throw us in this world of misery and hate?


And do you expect God to do everything for you? to fix all of your problems? Then what is the point of free will? We have to learn to do things for ourselves, not to let God do everything for us.



Why wouldn’t he? He has the power doesn’t he? What does he have to hide?

Fix it yourself.


Why would he make us do it if he was so powerful when we are weak. We will just go through more pain. Or he could just be a lazy asshole.

Yeah, lazy, being that he created the entire universe, and not to mention yourself. God gives you the power to do things, so use it.

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Red_Calibur9 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote: Do you believe in Jinn, Satan and Ghost...???

CAN SCIENCES REACH THAT LEVEL OF REALM...???

Answer this first... atheist... btw you and these universe are proof that god is exist...


No. I don’t believe in anything I cannot see physically.

The universe is proof? No it is not. Anything could have made the universe.

If you are saying God created the universe... what created God?

Want some proof of God’s non existance? Look around you. Look at the pain and suffering. Do you think a loving, caring God would throw us in this world of misery and hate?

If you can even say that, then you know nothing of our God. People cause sin, not God.


If God was all powerful (if he exists) he can eliminate sin in the hearts of man.

And what would that cause? Infinite love? It wouldn’t be true love, God would be taking away our free will, forcing us to love and be perfect.


It will make the world much better wouldnt it?

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petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote: Do you believe in Jinn, Satan and Ghost...???

CAN SCIENCES REACH THAT LEVEL OF REALM...???

Answer this first... atheist... btw you and these universe are proof that god is exist...


No. I don’t believe in anything I cannot see physically.

The universe is proof? No it is not. Anything could have made the universe.

If you are saying God created the universe... what created God?

Want some proof of God’s non existance? Look around you. Look at the pain and suffering. Do you think a loving, caring God would throw us in this world of misery and hate?


And do you expect God to do everything for you? to fix all of your problems? Then what is the point of free will? We have to learn to do things for ourselves, not to let God do everything for us.



Why wouldn’t he? He has the power doesn’t he? What does he have to hide?


Why would he? Does he have to do everything for you?


Why not? He is all powerful. His power is limitless, am i right?


That is true. But why does he have to fix all of our problems?

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17 Apr 2008 08:56 pm
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No. I don’t believe in anything I cannot see physically.
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — -
I see... thats why you dont believe poltergeist event...

— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
The universe is proof? No it is not. Anything could have made the universe.
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
like what...??? we just see the 2 millions years ago of the andromeda galaxy... can we see it the current condition of andromeda even with sciences...???? No...!!!

— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — -
If you are saying God created the universe... what created God?
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — -
HE IS THE FIRST AND HE IS NEVER END... SATAN SAYING THIS...

— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
Want some proof of God’s non existance? Look around you. Look at the pain and suffering. Do you think a loving, caring God would throw us in this world of misery and hate?
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
I create human and jinn to bow to me... the satan is your true enemy and choose the path I choose for you... this is the right path... this life nothing more than a temporary enjoyment...

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17 Apr 2008 08:57 pm
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NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote: Do you believe in Jinn, Satan and Ghost...???

CAN SCIENCES REACH THAT LEVEL OF REALM...???

Answer this first... atheist... btw you and these universe are proof that god is exist...


No. I don’t believe in anything I cannot see physically.

The universe is proof? No it is not. Anything could have made the universe.

If you are saying God created the universe... what created God?

Want some proof of God’s non existance? Look around you. Look at the pain and suffering. Do you think a loving, caring God would throw us in this world of misery and hate?


And do you expect God to do everything for you? to fix all of your problems? Then what is the point of free will? We have to learn to do things for ourselves, not to let God do everything for us.



Why wouldn’t he? He has the power doesn’t he? What does he have to hide?


Why would he? Does he have to do everything for you?


Why not? He is all powerful. His power is limitless, am i right?


That is true. But why does he have to fix all of our problems?


Because he has the power. He could make us happy. He does not even have to think about it, if he is that powerful.

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petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote: Do you believe in Jinn, Satan and Ghost...???

CAN SCIENCES REACH THAT LEVEL OF REALM...???

Answer this first... atheist... btw you and these universe are proof that god is exist...


No. I don’t believe in anything I cannot see physically.

The universe is proof? No it is not. Anything could have made the universe.

If you are saying God created the universe... what created God?

Want some proof of God’s non existance? Look around you. Look at the pain and suffering. Do you think a loving, caring God would throw us in this world of misery and hate?


And do you expect God to do everything for you? to fix all of your problems? Then what is the point of free will? We have to learn to do things for ourselves, not to let God do everything for us.



Why wouldn’t he? He has the power doesn’t he? What does he have to hide?


Why would he? Does he have to do everything for you?


Why not? He is all powerful. His power is limitless, am i right?

Yes, you’re right. But why should he have to do everything for you? You might ask God to get you a job, pay your taxes, work. Do it yourself.

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Because he has the power. He could make us happy. He does not even have to think about it, if he is that powerful.
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — -
Do you believe in soul...???

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petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote: Do you believe in Jinn, Satan and Ghost...???

CAN SCIENCES REACH THAT LEVEL OF REALM...???

Answer this first... atheist... btw you and these universe are proof that god is exist...


No. I don’t believe in anything I cannot see physically.

The universe is proof? No it is not. Anything could have made the universe.

If you are saying God created the universe... what created God?

Want some proof of God’s non existance? Look around you. Look at the pain and suffering. Do you think a loving, caring God would throw us in this world of misery and hate?


And do you expect God to do everything for you? to fix all of your problems? Then what is the point of free will? We have to learn to do things for ourselves, not to let God do everything for us.



Why wouldn’t he? He has the power doesn’t he? What does he have to hide?


Why would he? Does he have to do everything for you?


Why not? He is all powerful. His power is limitless, am i right?


That is true. But why does he have to fix all of our problems?


Because he has the power. He could make us happy. He does not even have to think about it, if he is that powerful.


No one stays happy forever. If he has the power to stop everything and to make us happy, then why put us here in the first place? Why create earth at all?

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petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote: Do you believe in Jinn, Satan and Ghost...???

CAN SCIENCES REACH THAT LEVEL OF REALM...???

Answer this first... atheist... btw you and these universe are proof that god is exist...


No. I don’t believe in anything I cannot see physically.

The universe is proof? No it is not. Anything could have made the universe.

If you are saying God created the universe... what created God?

Want some proof of God’s non existance? Look around you. Look at the pain and suffering. Do you think a loving, caring God would throw us in this world of misery and hate?


And do you expect God to do everything for you? to fix all of your problems? Then what is the point of free will? We have to learn to do things for ourselves, not to let God do everything for us.



Why wouldn’t he? He has the power doesn’t he? What does he have to hide?


Why would he? Does he have to do everything for you?


Why not? He is all powerful. His power is limitless, am i right?


That is true. But why does he have to fix all of our problems?


Because he has the power. He could make us happy. He does not even have to think about it, if he is that powerful.

Do it yourself. People have the power to bring happiness.

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Ace of Spades

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Why would he make us do it if he was so powerful when we are weak. We will just go through more pain. Or he could just be a lazy asshole.
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
He have right of everything... just like I said to gplex... you want god server you not you serve him...

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[Quote] #32
17 Apr 2008 08:59 pm
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No one stays happy forever. If he has the power to stop everything and to make us happy, then why put us here in the first place? Why create earth at all?
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — -
for us to see who is the best follower to him...

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God doesn’t have to do things for you. People have the power to end suffering, to bring happiness, to be perfect.

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Itachi Uchiha wrote: No. I don�t believe in anything I cannot see physically.
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — -
I see... thats why you dont believe poltergeist event...

— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
The universe is proof? No it is not. Anything could have made the universe.
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
like what...??? we just see the 2 millions years ago of the andromeda galaxy... can we see it the current condition of andromeda even with sciences...???? No...!!!

— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — -
If you are saying God created the universe... what created God?
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — -
HE IS THE FIRST AND HE IS NEVER END... SATAN SAYING THIS...

— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
Want some proof of God�s non existance? Look around you. Look at the pain and suffering. Do you think a loving, caring God would throw us in this world of misery and hate?
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
I create human and jinn to bow to me... the satan is your true enemy and choose the path I choose for you... this is the right path... this life nothing more than a temporary enjoyment...




Something had to have made God. Something cant just be around forever. The universe developed over a period of time.

By the way, gas formations, and other events made the universe, not a magical force.

There is no Satan either. He was just a way to scare people in believing in God and make the church get more power.

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Red_Calibur9 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote: Do you believe in Jinn, Satan and Ghost...???

CAN SCIENCES REACH THAT LEVEL OF REALM...???

Answer this first... atheist... btw you and these universe are proof that god is exist...


No. I don’t believe in anything I cannot see physically.

The universe is proof? No it is not. Anything could have made the universe.

If you are saying God created the universe... what created God?

Want some proof of God’s non existance? Look around you. Look at the pain and suffering. Do you think a loving, caring God would throw us in this world of misery and hate?


And do you expect God to do everything for you? to fix all of your problems? Then what is the point of free will? We have to learn to do things for ourselves, not to let God do everything for us.



Why wouldn’t he? He has the power doesn’t he? What does he have to hide?


Why would he? Does he have to do everything for you?


Why not? He is all powerful. His power is limitless, am i right?


That is true. But why does he have to fix all of our problems?


Because he has the power. He could make us happy. He does not even have to think about it, if he is that powerful.

Do it yourself. People have the power to bring happiness.


Not as much as God.

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Itachi Uchiha wrote: No one stays happy forever. If he has the power to stop everything and to make us happy, then why put us here in the first place? Why create earth at all?
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — -
for us to see who is the best follower to him...

Why do we have to follow God? Isn’t it your religon that says God will allow you in heaven based on what you were taught in life and if you followed the commandments?

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Red_Calibur9 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote: Do you believe in Jinn, Satan and Ghost...???

CAN SCIENCES REACH THAT LEVEL OF REALM...???

Answer this first... atheist... btw you and these universe are proof that god is exist...


No. I don’t believe in anything I cannot see physically.

The universe is proof? No it is not. Anything could have made the universe.

If you are saying God created the universe... what created God?

Want some proof of God’s non existance? Look around you. Look at the pain and suffering. Do you think a loving, caring God would throw us in this world of misery and hate?


And do you expect God to do everything for you? to fix all of your problems? Then what is the point of free will? We have to learn to do things for ourselves, not to let God do everything for us.



Why wouldn’t he? He has the power doesn’t he? What does he have to hide?


Why would he? Does he have to do everything for you?


Why not? He is all powerful. His power is limitless, am i right?

Yes, you’re right. But why should he have to do everything for you? You might ask God to get you a job, pay your taxes, work. Do it yourself.


God is considered as our father. Parents want us to be completely happy, so, why not? It will make us happy.

And God expects us to fix problems like racism, extinction, etc. all by ourselves? Or even stop global warming for that matter?

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petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote: No. I don�t believe in anything I cannot see physically.
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — -
I see... thats why you dont believe poltergeist event...

— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
The universe is proof? No it is not. Anything could have made the universe.
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
like what...??? we just see the 2 millions years ago of the andromeda galaxy... can we see it the current condition of andromeda even with sciences...???? No...!!!

— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — -
If you are saying God created the universe... what created God?
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — -
HE IS THE FIRST AND HE IS NEVER END... SATAN SAYING THIS...

— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
Want some proof of God�s non existance? Look around you. Look at the pain and suffering. Do you think a loving, caring God would throw us in this world of misery and hate?
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
I create human and jinn to bow to me... the satan is your true enemy and choose the path I choose for you... this is the right path... this life nothing more than a temporary enjoyment...




Something had to have made God. Something cant just be around forever. The universe developed over a period of time.

By the way, gas formations, and other events made the universe, not a magical force.

There is no Satan either. He was just a way to scare people in believing in God and make the church get more power.

God can be around forever. He’s God. He’s incomprehendible.

God isn’t magic. He’s Omnipotent.

Satan is real. He just wants you to think he’s fake. shocked

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Itachi Uchiha wrote: Because he has the power. He could make us happy. He does not even have to think about it, if he is that powerful.
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — -
Do you believe in soul...???


No. We are chemicals put together in a way we function by instinct for us to survive.

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petrofsky wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote: Do you believe in Jinn, Satan and Ghost...???

CAN SCIENCES REACH THAT LEVEL OF REALM...???

Answer this first... atheist... btw you and these universe are proof that god is exist...


No. I don’t believe in anything I cannot see physically.

The universe is proof? No it is not. Anything could have made the universe.

If you are saying God created the universe... what created God?

Want some proof of God’s non existance? Look around you. Look at the pain and suffering. Do you think a loving, caring God would throw us in this world of misery and hate?


And do you expect God to do everything for you? to fix all of your problems? Then what is the point of free will? We have to learn to do things for ourselves, not to let God do everything for us.



Why wouldn’t he? He has the power doesn’t he? What does he have to hide?


Why would he? Does he have to do everything for you?


Why not? He is all powerful. His power is limitless, am i right?

Yes, you’re right. But why should he have to do everything for you? You might ask God to get you a job, pay your taxes, work. Do it yourself.


God is considered as our father. Parents want us to be completely happy, so, why not? It will make us happy.

And God expects us to fix problems like racism, extinction, etc. all by ourselves? Or even stop global warming for that matter?

Are you saying that it’s impossible for humans to stop suffering? Jesus did. It’s all our own free will to choose to do right.

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