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21 Apr 2008 07:00 am
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Itachi Uchiha wrote: Yes it’s quite simple actually.
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Let me see it... and do not copy it from another...

You said for me to create something LIKE the Quran, can you not use your imagination and just make up shit?

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21 Apr 2008 05:41 pm
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Besides that fact that theists are the ones that must provide evidence for the claim that there is a “god”, let me ask you this.

Why do we need a god?

and

Why is “heaven” preferable over the world that already exists? What makes heaven better?

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21 Apr 2008 10:56 pm
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You said for me to create something LIKE the Quran, can you not use your imagination and just make up shit?
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you are have more intelectual more than Prophet Muhammad SAW... He never go to school, He cant read and write... but He remember everything that He said since the first He claim that He is prophet.... can you create something like Qur’an...???

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21 Apr 2008 11:18 pm
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Really, it depends what you are looking for when writing a holy book. All holy books have stories that are very far fetched, yes, but they all have symbolism on how to live as a decent human being. Really, I find it to be just as hard as writing a novel like To Kill A Mockingbird, Catcher in the Rye, etc.

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21 Apr 2008 11:20 pm
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Really, it depends what you are looking for when writing a holy book. All holy books have stories that are very far fetched, yes, but they all have symbolism on how to live as a decent human being. Really, I find it to be just as hard as writing a novel like To Kill A Mockingbird, Catcher in the Rye, etc.
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My sister could create novel...

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Itachi Uchiha wrote: Really, it depends what you are looking for when writing a holy book. All holy books have stories that are very far fetched, yes, but they all have symbolism on how to live as a decent human being. Really, I find it to be just as hard as writing a novel like To Kill A Mockingbird, Catcher in the Rye, etc.
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My sister could create novel...


Yeah, a crappy one most likely, but NOTHING like classics with symbolism behind every word.

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21 Apr 2008 11:23 pm
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like de davinci code...

freemason and knight of templar...

so yeah writing novel is easy baby... while writing exploit you need a lot of brain...

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Itachi Uchiha wrote: like de davinci code...

freemason and knight of templar...

so yeah writing novel is easy baby... while writing exploit you need a lot of brain...


Writing a novel is not easy in the least bit. It is one of the most difficult things to do. Go ahead and try to write a novel and make it as great as To Kill A Mockingbird. You will see how hard it is.

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21 Apr 2008 11:30 pm
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nope... you know what... writing exploit for linux is as hard as to throw the rocks... have you create one...???

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Itachi Uchiha wrote: nope... you know what... writing exploit for linux is as hard as to throw the rocks... have you create one...???


I am sorry. Can you repeat that? Your poor spelling, and your poor grammar have confused me.

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21 Apr 2008 11:32 pm
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writing exploit for linux os... can you do that...??

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21 Apr 2008 11:32 pm
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Itachi meet the fucking world.

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Khorib wrote: Besides that fact that theists are the ones that must provide evidence for the claim that there is a “god”, let me ask you this.

Why do we need a god?

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Why is “heaven” preferable over the world that already exists? What makes heaven better?


Beliefs start on a neutral. If they started on a positive we’d have to believe in everything.
If they started on a negative we’d have to believe in nothing, not even existance, because we have no evidence beyond existance and using existance as evidence as existance is as circular as using scripture as proof of scripture (to be real) or dream experiences to prove that dreams are real.

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Itachi Uchiha wrote: writing exploit for linux os... can you do that...??


I don’t even know what the hell linux os is.

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21 Apr 2008 11:35 pm
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learn computer more... or perhaps you will think linux is nihil...???

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Itachi Uchiha wrote: learn computer more... or perhaps you will think linux is nihil...???


As I see in a dictionary, it is some kind of computer software.

Very good Itachi. Now what does a dog say?

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21 Apr 2008 11:37 pm
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nihilus...

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21 Apr 2008 11:37 pm
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Why do you think it is hard to write a holy book?

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21 Apr 2008 11:38 pm
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can you create one...???

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ramunematt wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote: Why would he make us do it if he was so powerful when we are weak. We will just go through more pain. Or he could just be a lazy asshole.
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He have right of everything... just like I said to gplex... you want god server you not you serve him...


Why would you want to serve a ruthless dictator?


How is he a dictator? Humans have killed each other far more than God has and God doesn’t forcibly program everyone to believe in him either. The only bad thing God has done in Abrahamic religions is made the flood and even then that was to kill millions of demons who were living on Earth and give humanity another chance at a fresh new world through Noah.


I’m not saying god is a dictator because he killed people, I’m saying he is a dictator because he has absolute power/authority over the universe.


He made the universe, doesn’t that give him ownership?

RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Sean of the Living wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote: Why would he make us do it if he was so powerful when we are weak. We will just go through more pain. Or he could just be a lazy asshole.
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He have right of everything... just like I said to gplex... you want god server you not you serve him...


Why would you want to serve a ruthless dictator?


How is he a dictator? Humans have killed each other far more than God has and God doesn’t forcibly program everyone to believe in him either. The only bad thing God has done in Abrahamic religions is made the flood and even then that was to kill millions of demons who were living on Earth and give humanity another chance at a fresh new world through Noah.

But he killed many humans in the process, also he is a dictator because he wants everyone to worship him and if you don’t well you go to hell. So no he doesn’t force you too.


Translations of the Hebrew word Sheol as “Hell” through verses which speak of a lake of fire is the wrong conclusion. Ecclesiastes 9:5 says “The living are conscious they will die, as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all”, meaning that all talk of a lake of fire is symbolic and that non-existance or death is the punishment for sin. If it wasn’t, howcome Jesus didn’t go to Eternal Hell for our sins? He didn’t do that. He died (supposedly). Thus dying is the price of sin in Christianity.

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