#81 20 Apr 2008 01:52 pm |
Oderint Dum Metuant Rep: 105  Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 37,430 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
NihilusRavager7780 wrote:
If you have checked the last page, like I know that you did, it just went out of order.
It wasn’t even bad it was...just plain wrong.
I don’t think that wrong can describe it. The games make up for the anime. | | | #82 20 Apr 2008 01:55 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 10  Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,404 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
I just can’t believe it was brought up in the first place.Shaman King(because of Hao),Saint Seiya yes,Slayers yes,but...POKEMON! I mean I could even understand if they said Digimon but POKEMON!
In all fairness, Those moves should work on him. Regardless of weather the pokemon did it, I seriously doubt Prime could beat every character in anime going against him at once. So no matter how wrong we were about pokemon it wouldn’t matter because we were technically part right. | | #83 20 Apr 2008 02:47 pm |
Light-Bringer Rep: 28  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,584 ONLINE | I’m not saying he can take every anime,I just couldn’t believe someone believed Mewtwo(we will leave him unnamed “cough,cough”  could beat him. ---
 | | #84 20 Apr 2008 04:26 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 20  Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 2,709 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
The fact that they have guys who think Pokemon can beat Prime really has me wondering about the sanity of my planet.
The fact that you think prime could beat the legendaries from pokemon really makes me laugh. You just don’t like the fact that prime gets owned by a kids show/game but I gave detailed explanations on how he would lose to just one. Instead of just saying
“lol pokemon can’t beat superman”
Tell me why. Quote my points and disprove them ---
   | | #85 20 Apr 2008 04:30 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 46  Joined: 02 Apr 2008 Posts: 1,895 OFFLINE | ^LOL! | | #86 20 Apr 2008 04:34 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 20  Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 2,709 OFFLINE | Yeah you WOULD say that ---
   | | #87 20 Apr 2008 04:38 pm |
Light-Bringer Rep: 28  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,584 ONLINE | Invaderzym wrote:
Transform turns the user into the person (Or thing) they’re fighting. It copies their abilities and power and I assume knowledge as well.
Perfect.Do they mimic them perfectly?Not that it matters since Supes knows how to work his powers better than some creature who just copied him.
Invaderzym wrote:
Even if it didn’t copy the knowledge how much knowledge do you need to use supermans powers huh? Punch, kick, fly, not that hard.
Heat vision,ice breath,x-ray vision,soul vision,etc.
Invaderzym wrote:
Mew could read superman’s mind to know what he’s about to do.
Okay first off what does turning to Prime do?He is always bloodlusted and if they turned into him he would still more than likely win because of experience.
Invaderzym wrote:
but if you want to bring Mewtwo into the picture Mewtwo can control supermans mind, or just blow up his brain or insides.
Do you know anything about comics?Martian Manhunter as telepathic powers that put Mewtwo to shame.He could shut all of the minds on earth off if he wants.
Invaderzym wrote:
Superman can’t touch Mew or Mewtwo as they can read his mind on what he’s about to do and teleport.
So they can now move so fast they can avoid a guy who flew from one universe to the next?Yeah...
Invaderzym wrote:
As for destiny bond, if by some chance superman is winning they’d use it as a last resort. Not that it would even go that far.
It won’t matter but go ahead and tell me what this tech does.
Invaderzym wrote:
Pokemon are on a higher tier than superman.
I almost died laughing with this.I guess that means the kid who catches Dialga and Palkia in Diamond and Pearl can control time aswell.
Invaderzym wrote:
Palika and Dialga control time and space,
Look above.
Invaderzym wrote:
Azelf can make him lose his will (No will to fight),Mesprite can make him lose his emotions , Uxie can make him lose all his memories.
You have to explain how all of this works
Invaderzym wrote:
And those are just a few legendaries. Anyone of them would be a challenge to superman. If they all went against him it wouldn’t be a fight it would be a slaughter.
I lol at your underestimation of DC.I bet Aizen can solo DC can’t he. ---
 | | #88 20 Apr 2008 04:38 pm |
Light-Bringer Rep: 28  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,584 ONLINE | Invaderzym wrote:
The fact that you think prime could beat the legendaries from pokemon really makes me laugh. You just don’t like the fact that prime gets owned by a kids show/game but I gave detailed explanations on how he would lose to just one. Instead of just saying
“lol pokemon can’t beat superman”
Tell me why. Quote my points and disprove them
Hey you asked for it so I answered. ---
 | | #89 20 Apr 2008 05:10 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 20  Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 2,709 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
Perfect.Do they mimic them perfectly?Not that it matters since Supes knows how to work his powers better than some creature who just copied him.
Yes it copies them perfectly. Since Mew is physicic it can read supermans mind for what it needs to do in the new body if it already doesn’t know
Manchester Black wrote:
Heat vision
if it doesn’t know that it still knows fire blast, flame thrower, hyper beam, ect
Manchester Black wrote:
ice breath,
Ice beam, shear cold, snow storm, ect
Manchester Black wrote:
x-ray vision,
can read minds
Manchester Black wrote:
soul vision,etc.
what does soul vision do? I’m sure there’s a move that just like or better than it
Manchester Black wrote:
Okay first off what does turning to Prime do?He is always bloodlusted and if they turned into him he would still more than likely win because of experience.
Mew would be better in primes body since ontop his the power and speed it has, it can combine it with all the moves it knows. Example
Superman prime can go 1000mph
Mew transforms into prime and then can go 1000mph but uses agility or a move that increases it’s speed to 1300mph
Manchester Black wrote:
Do you know anything about comics?Martian Manhunter as telepathic powers that put Mewtwo to shame.He could shut all of the minds on earth off if he wants.
Ok...and? We aren’t talking about manhunter we’re talking about Prime. How’s he going to resist being mind controlled and having his mind blown up, or put under hypnosis, or having his memory erased? Mewteo can do all those things
Manchester Black wrote:
So they can now move so fast they can avoid a guy who flew from one universe to the next?Yeah...
They can read his mind and teleport. They know he’s going start flying before he does it
Manchester Black wrote:
It won’t matter but go ahead and tell me what this tech does.
It’s basiclly “If I go down I’m taking you with me!" as the name suggest their destinies are bonded. If one of them dies the other one dies as well
Manchester Black wrote:
I almost died laughing with this.
I bet you think superman prime and DC and marvel characters are the strongest in all of fantasy huh?
Manchester Black wrote:
I guess that means the kid who catches Dialga and Palkia in Diamond and Pearl can control time aswell.
No. He/she has the creatures who control time and space
Manchester Black wrote:
Look above.
you too. being with a trainer doesn’t mean you lose your power. They still control time and space
Manchester Black wrote:
You have to explain how all of this works
Azelf (アグノム, Agunomu?, Agnome in original Japanese language versions) is a legendary Pokémon that is part of the Psychic-type trio along with Uxie and Mesprit. It has a small blue body about the size of Mew, and is identical to Uxie and Mesprit except for its head. It has a blue cone shaped head with a jewel embedded in its forehead and also two blue dropping ears, yellow eyes, and eyelids the same dark blue as its head. It is referred to as “The Being of Willpower”. It can either make people give up on an activity or cause them to attempt the activity repeatedly. Residing and sleeping at the base of Lake Valor, it keeps the world in balance.
Number: 481 Type: Psychic Does not evolve
Mesprit (エムリット, Emuritto?, Emrit in original Japanese language versions) is a legendary Pokémon that is part of the Psychic-type Lake Trio along with Uxie and Azelf. Mesprit’s name comes from the word sprite, a tiny fairy found in fantasy and fairy tales, or spirit, as its spirit often exits its body, leaving it on the bottom of Lake Verity. It has a small blue body about the size of Mew, and is identical to Uxie and Azelf except for its head. It has a pink head with a jewel embedded in its forehead, and four long ears drooping down its head looking like those of Lucario. Mesprit is referred to as “The Being of Emotion”. It is said that Mesprit taught humans to sense emotion such as the pain of sorrow and the value of joy. If a human touches it, three days after the touch, the person will lose their emotions. When you attempt to capture it, it will roam around Sinnoh
Uxie (ユクシー, Yukushī?) has a yellow and round head with a jewel (probably a ruby), embedded in its forehead, and in its Sugimori art it appears to be sleeping, or closing its eyes in deep thought. Uxie’s name comes from the word pixie, a small mythical creature, and “you”, U being short for it. The other members of the Psychic-type, Mew like Lake Trio, Mesprit and Azelf, represent “me” and “us”, respectively. It is also a possibility that these three Pokémon are inspired from a trio of Arabian goddesses, Al-Lat (Azelf), Manat (Mesprit), and Al-Uzza (Uxie). This is further supported by their moniker as Mirage Pokémon (as mirages are something associated with the Arabian desert), and that the three appear to be wearing jeweled turbans, which are associated with Arabic royalty. Uxie’s eyelids are also yellow, although they are obviously not part of the top of the head where the other yellow is. Uxie also resembles a religious monk. Its head resembles a human brain, since it is the Knowledge Pokémon. Like Mesprit and Azelf, its partners in the legendary trio, it has two tails with jewels embedded in them, and the only major difference between them is their heads and their faces. It is also believed that the mystic trio was all hatched from the same egg.
Uxie is referred to as “The Being of Knowledge”. It is said that the wisdom that enriches the lives of humans was brought with the birth of Uxie. Similar to the legend of the basilisk where the basilisk could cause death by a single glance, Uxie can cause a complete mindwipe by a single glance of its open eyes; hence, its eyes are always closed, even when it is in battle
Manchester Black wrote:
I lol at your underestimation of DC.I bet Aizen can solo DC can’t he.
I lol at your underestimation of pokemon. not even DBZ character can beat pokemon. No I don’t think Aizen could solo the entire DC universe. Why would I? ---
   | | #90 20 Apr 2008 05:16 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 10  Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,404 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
Invaderzym wrote:
Transform turns the user into the person (Or thing) they’re fighting. It copies their abilities and power and I assume knowledge as well.
Perfect.Do they mimic them perfectly?Not that it matters since Supes knows how to work his powers better than some creature who just copied him.
There is nothing to suggest they cannot use their powers to the fullest extent.
Invaderzym wrote:
Even if it didn’t copy the knowledge how much knowledge do you need to use supermans powers huh? Punch, kick, fly, not that hard.
Heat vision,ice breath,x-ray vision,soul vision,etc.
Ice breath is also a pokemon move.
Invaderzym wrote:
Mew could read superman’s mind to know what he’s about to do.
Okay first off what does turning to Prime do?He is always bloodlusted and if they turned into him he would still more than likely win because of experience.
Well pokemon like Ditto and Mew can turn into their oppenents and they have all their oppenents moves up to that level. For instant a level 10 Ditto copying a level 70 Mewtwo would only be turn into the equivilant of a level 10 Mewtwo.
Invaderzym wrote:
but if you want to bring Mewtwo into the picture Mewtwo can control supermans mind, or just blow up his brain or insides.
Do you know anything about comics?Martian Manhunter as telepathic powers that put Mewtwo to shame.He could shut all of the minds on earth off if he wants.
Mewtwo could probably do that too. He has vastly improved.
Invaderzym wrote:
Superman can’t touch Mew or Mewtwo as they can read his mind on what he’s about to do and teleport.
So they can now move so fast they can avoid a guy who flew from one universe to the next?Yeah...
Technically if they know what he is going to do before he does it and they teleport then yes, they can at least dodge him.
Invaderzym wrote:
As for destiny bond, if by some chance superman is winning they’d use it as a last resort. Not that it would even go that far.
It won’t matter but go ahead and tell me what this tech does.
Destiny bond kills the user and the oppenent.
Invaderzym wrote:
Pokemon are on a higher tier than superman.
I almost died laughing with this.I guess that means the kid who catches Dialga and Palkia in Diamond and Pearl can control time aswell.
I can agree with this.
Invaderzym wrote:
Palika and Dialga control time and space,
Look above.
In all fairness it’s not as if they give the pokemon in the games those kinds of powers. Just look at Mewtwo, he isn’t as powerful in the game as in the movie.
Invaderzym wrote:
Azelf can make him lose his will (No will to fight),Mesprite can make him lose his emotions , Uxie can make him lose all his memories.
You have to explain how all of this works
Invaderzym wrote:
And those are just a few legendaries. Anyone of them would be a challenge to superman. If they all went against him it wouldn’t be a fight it would be a slaughter.
I lol at your underestimation of DC.I bet Aizen can solo DC can’t he.
| | #91 20 Apr 2008 05:37 pm |
Light-Bringer Rep: 28  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,584 ONLINE | Invaderzym wrote:
Yes it copies them perfectly. Since Mew is physicic it can read supermans mind for what it needs to do in the new body if it already doesn’t know
An alien being once tried to mess with Supes mind.Guess what happened to him.
http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pc8et0.jpg
http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pc9ff4.jpg
Yes he died.
Invaderzym wrote:
if it doesn’t know that it still knows fire blast, flame thrower, hyper beam, ect
Since your using the anime we see Team Rocket survive attacks like these with no problem.A guy who survived a universe buster would laugh at this.
Invaderzym wrote:
Ice beam, shear cold, snow storm, ect
Not that it would matter.I just realized this.Answer the question.What would turning to Supes do?Ice breath won’t hurt him since he can deal with temperatures below zero and heat vision won’t do jack.
Invaderzym wrote:
can read minds
Can’t react to attack beyond light speed.
Invaderzym wrote:
what does soul vision do? I’m sure there’s a move that just like or better than it
http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/5134/supessoul4pi.jpg
Invaderzym wrote:
Mew would be better in primes body since ontop his the power and speed it has, it can combine it with all the moves it knows. Example
Superman prime can go 1000mph
Mew transforms into prime and then can go 1000mph but uses agility or a move that increases it’s speed to 1300mph
So why does it only use the moves of the pokemon it copied.Howw long does it last anyway?
Invaderzym wrote:
Ok...and? We aren’t talking about manhunter we’re talking about Prime. How’s he going to resist being mind controlled and having his mind blown up, or put under hypnosis, or having his memory erased? Mewteo can do all those things
You didn’t read any of what I just posted did you?Manhunter can shut off everyone on the planets minds and had the JLA at his mercy when he went Rogue.Prime koed him in one punch.The only reason Maxwell Lord was able to control Post-Crisis is because he had been using his powers for years.
Invaderzym wrote:
They can read his mind and teleport. They know he’s going start flying before he does it
Have you watched Naruto or read Yuyuhakusho?Those are two perfect examples.Sasukes eyes can predict movements and techniques yet he was pwned by Rock Lee because Lee was MULTIPLE TIMES FASTER THAN HE WAS.In Yuyuhakusho Yusuke fought some guy who could read minds and was confident he would win.Yusuke was to fast and beat him.Genkai said even if he could read minds if he couldn’t react to it it doesn’t matter.
Invaderzym wrote:
It’s basiclly “If I go down I’m taking you with me!" as the name suggest their destinies are bonded. If one of them dies the other one dies as well
Prime would kill them before it could be used.
Invaderzym wrote:
I bet you think superman prime and DC and marvel characters are the strongest in all of fantasy huh?
I don’t think Prime is the strongest I just have enough sense to know Pokemon can’t beat him.I mean maybe if you said Digimon but Pokemon?Also read earlier I named so universes out of the top of my head that I know has characters that pwn Prime.
Invaderzym wrote:
No. He/she has the creatures who control time and space
And they are?
Invaderzym wrote:
you too. being with a trainer doesn’t mean you lose your power. They still control time and space
Your not getting what I’m saying.Your saying they control time and space but I’m reminding you if they were as strong as you say they would have never been captured in the first place.
Invaderzym wrote:
Azelf (¥¢¥°¥Î¥à, Agunomu?, Agnome in original Japanese language versions) is a legendary Pok¨¦mon that is part of the Psychic-type trio along with Uxie and Mesprit. It has a small blue body about the size of Mew, and is identical to Uxie and Mesprit except for its head. It has a blue cone shaped head with a jewel embedded in its forehead and also two blue dropping ears, yellow eyes, and eyelids the same dark blue as its head. It is referred to as “The Being of Willpower”. It can either make people give up on an activity or cause them to attempt the activity repeatedly. Residing and sleeping at the base of Lake Valor, it keeps the world in balance.
That doesn’t explain how it does it?For all we know it could take a long procedure.
Invaderzym wrote:
Mesprit (¥¨¥à¥ê¥Ã¥È, Emuritto?, Emrit in original Japanese language versions) is a legendary Pok¨¦mon that is part of the Psychic-type Lake Trio along with Uxie and Azelf. Mesprit’s name comes from the word sprite, a tiny fairy found in fantasy and fairy tales, or spirit, as its spirit often exits its body, leaving it on the bottom of Lake Verity. It has a small blue body about the size of Mew, and is identical to Uxie and Azelf except for its head. It has a pink head with a jewel embedded in its forehead, and four long ears drooping down its head looking like those of Lucario. Mesprit is referred to as “The Being of Emotion”. It is said that Mesprit taught humans to sense emotion such as the pain of sorrow and the value of joy. If a human touches it, three days after the touch, the person will lose their emotions. When you attempt to capture it, it will roam around Sinnoh
Well one Prime isn’t human.Two he doesn’t really have to touch him.Prime has no problem frieing people with his heat vision.
Invaderzym wrote:
Uxie is referred to as “The Being of Knowledge”. It is said that the wisdom that enriches the lives of humans was brought with the birth of Uxie. Similar to the legend of the basilisk where the basilisk could cause death by a single glance, Uxie can cause a complete mindwipe by a single glance of its open eyes; hence, its eyes are always closed, even when it is in battle
Can’t ignore that.But lets say it does open its eyes it mindwipes everyone then and then you got a rampaging mad man with powers.
Invaderzym wrote:
I lol at your underestimation of pokemon. not even DBZ character can beat pokemon. No I don’t think Aizen could solo the entire DC universe. Why would I?
I know pokemon is strong but they can’t beat Prime.Oh so you don’t think DBZ is the strongest good.I said that because of some comments you have made in the past segusting you think Bleach can give DC problems. ---
 | | #92 20 Apr 2008 05:42 pm |
Light-Bringer Rep: 28  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,584 ONLINE | RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
There is nothing to suggest they cannot use their powers to the fullest extent.
Yes after getting used to the body maybe.
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Well pokemon like Ditto and Mew can turn into their oppenents and they have all their oppenents moves up to that level. For instant a level 10 Ditto copying a level 70 Mewtwo would only be turn into the equivilant of a level 10 Mewtwo.
Since DC doesn’t use levels its going to be real confusing.
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Mewtwo could probably do that too. He has vastly improved.
He probably could but until we actually see it its speculation.
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Technically if they know what he is going to do before he does it and they teleport then yes, they can at least dodge him.
Read the example I gave Zym.
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Destiny bond kills the user and the oppenent.
It isn’t one of those techs that has to charge is it(like hyper beam)cause if it is it really doesn’t matter.
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
I can agree with this.
I’m glad to see I’m not alone.I know Pokemon is strong they just can’t handle with Prime.
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
In all fairness it’s not as if they give the pokemon in the games those kinds of powers. Just look at Mewtwo, he isn’t as powerful in the game as in the movie.
You should read the Pokemon manga.The creator himself said its the way he wanted it to be. ---
 | | #93 20 Apr 2008 06:42 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 10  Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,404 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
There is nothing to suggest they cannot use their powers to the fullest extent.
Yes after getting used to the body maybe.
Well I’ve only seen the move used in the games so I really don’t know. There is nothing that suggests it takes awhile to get used to however, it’s not as if they copy the hp and defence or anything. So it’s basically just a pokemon with all of supes powers but with lower hp and such.
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Well pokemon like Ditto and Mew can turn into their oppenents and they have all their oppenents moves up to that level. For instant a level 10 Ditto copying a level 70 Mewtwo would only be turn into the equivilant of a level 10 Mewtwo.
Since DC doesn’t use levels its going to be real confusing.
That is true, but as you get stronger your attacks should get stronger. So if Mew turned into prime, Mew would have heat vision and be able to use it, but not to the same extent as Supes could, in other words, It depends on how strong you are to determine the limits of the attack.
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Mewtwo could probably do that too. He has vastly improved.
He probably could but until we actually see it its speculation.
Well I doubt it’s going to happen since it is a kids show but he created a storm that could devistate the world with just the twirl of a finger, and he isn’t as powerful as he was in his return.
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Technically if they know what he is going to do before he does it and they teleport then yes, they can at least dodge him.
Read the example I gave Zym.
I just did. I would assume it would depend on the situation if they could dodge or not. They could always create a psychic barrier or something.
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Destiny bond kills the user and the oppenent.
It isn’t one of those techs that has to charge is it(like hyper beam)cause if it is it really doesn’t matter.
I’ve only seen it done once in the anime and I don’t know if it had to be charged or not.
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
I can agree with this.
I’m glad to see I’m not alone.I know Pokemon is strong they just can’t handle with Prime.
At least for now. But I think if those pokemon worked together they might give Supes a bit of trouble at least.
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
In all fairness it’s not as if they give the pokemon in the games those kinds of powers. Just look at Mewtwo, he isn’t as powerful in the game as in the movie.
You should read the Pokemon manga.The creator himself said its the way he wanted it to be.
He wanted it to be like the games? | | #94 20 Apr 2008 07:57 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 20  Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 2,709 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
An alien being once tried to mess with Supes mind.Guess what happened to him.
Yes he died.
Nice. Now show superman PRIME doing it. Plus all I said was mew was going to read his mind, not mess with it
Manchester Black wrote:
Since your using the anime we see Team Rocket survive attacks like these with no problem.A guy who survived a universe buster would laugh at this.
So I guess a punch from me is equal to a punch from Chuck Norris huh?
Manchester Black wrote:
Not that it would matter.I just realized this.Answer the question.What would turning to Supes do?Ice breath won’t hurt him since he can deal with temperatures below zero and heat vision won’t do jack.
you’re the one who brought up them not being able to use fire/ice. Plus shear cold is a 1 hit KO no matter who or what it hits
Manchester Black wrote:
Can’t react to attack beyond light speed.
I assume you’ve got proof of that
well thanks, this prove superman has ki so I’ll show this to bustersword later, but seriously I don’t get what this soul thing does
Manchester Black wrote:
So why does it only use the moves of the pokemon it copied.Howw long does it last anyway?
It know EVERY move. It lasts as long as the user wants or until it’s knocked out
Manchester Black wrote:
You didn’t read any of what I just posted did you?Manhunter can shut off everyone on the planets minds and had the JLA at his mercy when he went Rogue.Prime koed him in one punch.The only reason Maxwell Lord was able to control Post-Crisis is because he had been using his powers for years.
ok and this tells me superman prime can’t be controlled or is resistant to psychic powers how? Mewtwo isn’t Manhunter. There’s no way to tell he’d make the mistakes Manhuter did
Manchester Black wrote:
Have you watched Naruto or read Yuyuhakusho?Those are two perfect examples.Sasukes eyes can predict movements and techniques yet he was pwned by Rock Lee because Lee was MULTIPLE TIMES FASTER THAN HE WAS.
Reading minds isn’t the same as reading movements. Sasuke was surprised because he THOUGHT lee was going to move a certain way. If he could read his MIND then he would know what he was about to do
Manchester Black wrote:
In Yuyuhakusho Yusuke fought some guy who could read minds and was confident he would win.Yusuke was to fast and beat him.Genkai said even if he could read minds if he couldn’t react to it it doesn’t matter.
So? Could the guy teleport?
Manchester Black wrote:
Prime would kill them before it could be used.
No he wouldn’t. Plus the move is pretty much instant
Manchester Black wrote:
I don’t think Prime is the strongest I just have enough sense to know Pokemon can’t beat him.I mean maybe if you said Digimon but Pokemon?Also read earlier I named so universes out of the top of my head that I know has characters that pwn Prime.
Digimon? You kidding me or something?
Manchester Black wrote:
And they are?
I just told you. Palkia and Diagla
Manchester Black wrote:
Your not getting what I’m saying.Your saying they control time and space but I’m reminding you if they were as strong as you say they would have never been captured in the first place.
Oh really? What makes you think they didn’t WANT to be captured? There’s been times when pokemon wanted be test a trainer and wanted to be caputed. You can’t say they didn’t
Manchester Black wrote:
That doesn’t explain how it does it?For all we know it could take a long procedure.
It takes a long time? What makes you say that?
Manchester Black wrote:
Well one Prime isn’t human.
Fair enough
Manchester Black wrote:
Two he doesn’t really have to touch him.Prime has no problem frieing people with his heat vision.
teleport, mind reading, ect
Manchester Black wrote:
Can’t ignore that.But lets say it does open its eyes it mindwipes everyone then and then you got a rampaging mad man with powers.
Yes it keeps it’s eyes closed cause it doesn’t want to wipe everyones memory, but if it’s pushed then it will. And why would superman be rampaging? He doesn’t even know who he is, how to use his powers, or even how to beathe<_<
Manchester Black wrote:
I know pokemon is strong but they can’t beat Prime.Oh so you don’t think DBZ is the strongest good.I said that because of some comments you have made in the past segusting you think Bleach can give DC problems.
Yes they can, no I don’t, since when is Aizen stronger than Janmaba and buu? ---
   | | #95 20 Apr 2008 08:15 pm |
Light-Bringer Rep: 28  Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 8,584 ONLINE | Invaderzym wrote:
Nice. Now show superman PRIME doing it. Plus all I said was mew was going to read his mind, not mess with it
I guess you missed that Prime>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Post Crisis Superman.
Invaderzym wrote:
So I guess a punch from me is equal to a punch from Chuck Norris huh?
I wonder what this has to do with anything...
Invaderzym wrote:
you’re the one who brought up them not being able to use fire/ice. Plus shear cold is a 1 hit KO no matter who or what it hits
On POKEMON.Not Prime.Regular Superman was frozen in space and soon as he heard someone scream he instantly broke out and saved their life.
Invaderzym wrote:
I assume you’ve got proof of that
Proof that he’s lightspeed?Ofcourse.He flew from one universe to the next in seconds.
Invaderzym wrote:
well thanks, this prove superman has ki so I’ll show this to bustersword later, but seriously I don’t get what this soul thing does
To be honest I don’t either.
Invaderzym wrote:
It know EVERY move. It lasts as long as the user wants or until it’s knocked out
If thats the case only a few seconds.
Invaderzym wrote:
ok and this tells me superman prime can’t be controlled or is resistant to psychic powers how? Mewtwo isn’t Manhunter. There’s no way to tell he’d make the mistakes Manhuter did
I sometimes wonder why I bother.I posted scans of someone trying to probe regular Supes mind and dieing the process,I brought up how Maxwell Lord only controled Supes becausing he had been slowly taking control of him over the years,then I mention Martian Manhunter and my point still hasn’t got across.
Invaderzym wrote:
Reading minds isn’t the same as reading movements. Sasuke was surprised because he THOUGHT lee was going to move a certain way. If he could read his MIND then he would know what he was about to do
And still I get my point across.You can be able to know what your opponent does it means nothing if you can’t react.
Invaderzym wrote:
So? Could the guy teleport?
It wouldn’t matter because Yusuke was still multiple times faster than him.
Invaderzym wrote:
No he wouldn’t. Plus the move is pretty much instant
Yeah like how he had problems with all of the earths Super heroes,the Green Lantern corps,and the Sinestro Corps.Well he didn’t so he won’t have a problem with some pokemon at all.
Invaderzym wrote:
Digimon? You kidding me or something?
Please Digimon is way stronger than Pokemon.
Invaderzym wrote:
I just told you. Palkia and Diagla
“cough"was caught by some random kid"cough”
Invaderzym wrote:
Oh really? What makes you think they didn’t WANT to be captured? There’s been times when pokemon wanted be test a trainer and wanted to be caputed. You can’t say they didn’t
Its funny because it works both ways.You can’t say they did want to get captured.
Invaderzym wrote:
It takes a long time? What makes you say that?
I said for all we know it COULD take a long time.
Invaderzym wrote:
teleport, mind reading, ect
To fast to react,strong mind against psychics,etc.
Invaderzym wrote:
Yes it keeps it’s eyes closed cause it doesn’t want to wipe everyones memory, but if it’s pushed then it will. And why would superman be rampaging? He doesn’t even know who he is, how to use his powers, or even how to beathe<_<
Prime is special for some reason.He always finds away out of a situation.I guess you can call this PIS.
Invaderzym wrote:
Yes they can, no I don’t, since when is Aizen stronger than Janmaba and buu?
No they can’t.Thats not what I said.You were making comments in another thread like Aizen could cause some serious trouble in DC even against high tiers. ---
 | | #96 20 Apr 2008 09:02 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 20  Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 2,709 OFFLINE | Manchester Black wrote:
I guess you missed that Prime>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Post Crisis Superman.
In mental powers too? Need proof
Manchester Black wrote:
I wonder what this has to do with anything...
You said superman survived hyper beams before. They were from regular pokemon. Not legendaries. A hyper beam from a dragonite isn’t going to feel the same as one from mewtwo
Manchester Black wrote:
On POKEMON.Not Prime.Regular Superman was frozen in space and soon as he heard someone scream he instantly broke out and saved their life.
Sheer cold says it causes the opponent to faint. Not “It causes a pokemon to faint”
Manchester Black wrote:
Proof that he’s lightspeed?Ofcourse.He flew from one universe to the next in seconds.
No proof Mew and Mewtwo can’t react to something faster than light, but while you’re at it I’d like to see this universe feat
Manchester Black wrote:
To be honest I don’t either.
Then why did you...oh never mind
Manchester Black wrote:
If thats the case only a few seconds.
You don’t know that. Maybe Mew will stay in supermans form long after it beats him
Manchester Black wrote:
I sometimes wonder why I bother.I posted scans of someone trying to probe regular Supes mind and dieing the process,I brought up how Maxwell Lord only controled Supes becausing he had been slowly taking control of him over the years,then I mention Martian Manhunter and my point still hasn’t got across.
Nice try buddy but you have to do better than that. Superman prime and post crisis are two different supermans from two different writers. Just cause one superman can resist mind control doesn’t mean ALL superman can. Post crisis is weak to kryptonite but you’ve told me prime isn’t. Post scans of PRIME doing ot
Manchester Black wrote:
And still I get my point across.You can be able to know what your opponent does it means nothing if you can’t react.
Sasuke could have reacted if he knew exactly what lee was about to do
Manchester Black wrote:
It wouldn’t matter because Yusuke was still multiple times faster than him.
The days Yusuke is faster than a teleporter is the day this argument holds any water
Manchester Black wrote:
Yeah like how he had problems with all of the earths Super heroes,the Green Lantern corps,and the Sinestro Corps.Well he didn’t so he won’t have a problem with some pokemon at all.
Oh yes he will
Manchester Black wrote:
Please Digimon is way stronger than Pokemon.
No they’re not
Manchester Black wrote:
“cough"was caught by some random kid"cough”
1. If we’re using anime then neither have been caught
2. Using gameplay as an example is a bad idea since it varies GREATLY from person to person. You don’t HAVE to catch them. I could have just beat them (with other legendary pokemon) and say “It never was caught, it was beat by another legendary pokemon. Or it could beat me and I can say “It wasn’t caught it beat the person”. So you can’t say they were caputed
Manchester Black wrote:
Its funny because it works both ways.You can’t say they did want to get captured.
I’m not saying THEY DID. I’m just saying you can’t say they didn’t
Manchester Black wrote:
I said for all we know it COULD take a long time.
Based on what?
Manchester Black wrote:
To fast to react,strong mind against psychics,etc.
Again what proof do you have it’s to fast for them to react, wrong superman, ect
Manchester Black wrote:
Prime is special for some reason.He always finds away out of a situation.I guess you can call this PIS.
you did it so wrong it’s not even funny.
Manchester Black wrote:
No they can’t.Thats not what I said.You were making comments in another thread like Aizen could cause some serious trouble in DC even against high tiers.
Yes they can. Yes it is. And I said WITH DBZ character ---
   | | #97 20 Apr 2008 09:13 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 10  Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,404 OFFLINE | It’s not as if Pokemon are the only ones in this fight. And isn’t Arceus the creator of the pokemon universe or something? That pokemon has to be worth something here. | | #98 20 Apr 2008 09:35 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 20  Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 2,709 OFFLINE | RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
It’s not as if Pokemon are the only ones in this fight. And isn’t Arceus the creator of the pokemon universe or something? That pokemon has to be worth something here.
yes it is ---
   | | #99 20 Apr 2008 09:36 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 10  Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,404 OFFLINE | Invaderzym wrote:
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
It’s not as if Pokemon are the only ones in this fight. And isn’t Arceus the creator of the pokemon universe or something? That pokemon has to be worth something here.
yes it is
So now we can add the Pokemon God to the list of pokemon that are going to help take down prime. | | #100 20 Apr 2008 09:44 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 20  Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Posts: 2,709 OFFLINE | RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Invaderzym wrote:
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
It’s not as if Pokemon are the only ones in this fight. And isn’t Arceus the creator of the pokemon universe or something? That pokemon has to be worth something here.
yes it is
So now we can add the Pokemon God to the list of pokemon that are going to help take down prime.
Throw Jarachi and Celibii in there too
Jarachi grants wishes and Celibi can travel though time ---
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