| 21 Apr 2008 07:01 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 10 Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,402 OFFLINE | Tyreaus wrote:
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Didn’t Dante and Vergil wipe the floor with Arkhum(Sp?) with Sparda’s power. who had the power to beat Mundus?
They did it EASILY.
Arkham couldn’t control it properly. Chances are he didn’t tap into the full power, where Dante and Vergil (each half-devil, do the math) could.
(Sanctus had the same problem in DMC4, but was beat by just Nero)
Vergil said Arkham couldn’t handle the power of Sparda. That doesn’t mean he couldn’t use it at full power, He may not be able to use it skillfully.
I know it’s not the same exact thing but...
If I have a gun and you have the same kind of gun as I do, and you have more practice than I do, That doesn’t mean my gun doesn’t do as much as yours, you just know how to use the potential of the weapon more.
Arkham just didn’t have enough skill to use it as effectivly as Sparda himself could.
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| 21 Apr 2008 07:03 pm |
Es Milu Tevi Engelis Rep: 43 Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 9,096 | RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Didn’t Dante and Vergil wipe the floor with Arkhum(Sp?) with Sparda’s power. who had the power to beat Mundus?
They did it EASILY.
Arkham couldn’t control it properly. Chances are he didn’t tap into the full power, where Dante and Vergil (each half-devil, do the math) could.
(Sanctus had the same problem in DMC4, but was beat by just Nero)
Vergil said Arkham couldn’t handle the power of Sparda. That doesn’t mean he couldn’t use it at full power, He may not be able to use it skillfully.
I know it’s not the same exact thing but...
If I have a gun and you have the same kind of gun as I do, and you have more practice than I do, That doesn’t mean my gun doesn’t do as much as yours, you just know how to use the potential of the weapon more.
Arkham just didn’t have enough skill to use it as effectivly as Sparda himself could.
True, but it still doesn’t mean that he possibly could have not tapped into it all, as like I said before, Sanctus had trouble taking down Nero alone.
Either way, the outcome is similar enough. Not arguing against the Sparda team just yet as I have to go, but maybe later I’ll catch back up.
Toodles. lol
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| 21 Apr 2008 07:10 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17 Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,614 OFFLINE | lol bubye
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| 21 Apr 2008 07:10 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 10Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,402 OFFLINE | Tyreaus wrote:
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Didn’t Dante and Vergil wipe the floor with Arkhum(Sp?) with Sparda’s power. who had the power to beat Mundus?
They did it EASILY.
Arkham couldn’t control it properly. Chances are he didn’t tap into the full power, where Dante and Vergil (each half-devil, do the math) could.
(Sanctus had the same problem in DMC4, but was beat by just Nero)
Vergil said Arkham couldn’t handle the power of Sparda. That doesn’t mean he couldn’t use it at full power, He may not be able to use it skillfully.
I know it’s not the same exact thing but...
If I have a gun and you have the same kind of gun as I do, and you have more practice than I do, That doesn’t mean my gun doesn’t do as much as yours, you just know how to use the potential of the weapon more.
Arkham just didn’t have enough skill to use it as effectivly as Sparda himself could.
True, but it still doesn’t mean that he possibly could have not tapped into it all, as like I said before, Sanctus had trouble taking down Nero alone.
Either way, the outcome is similar enough. Not arguing against the Sparda team just yet as I have to go, but maybe later I’ll catch back up.
Toodles. lol
He probably didn’t tap in to all of it, because of his cockyness of the ultimate power being part of him.
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| 21 Apr 2008 07:14 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,614 OFFLINE | Well Dante in DMC2 is stronger than Sparda i don’t no if Virgil and Nero will or have reached those level’s yet but i know Dante has
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| 21 Apr 2008 07:25 pm |
LoL' WuT? Rep: 53 Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 20,884 | well...thats hard...team ff fight supernatural monsters, team dmc fight demons...id almost say it were even...
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| 21 Apr 2008 07:41 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,614 OFFLINE | It is close huh
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| 21 Apr 2008 07:43 pm |
ALL HAIL 98SUPRA Rep: 57 Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 11,931 OFFLINE | Kyle Knight wrote:
Yes Arkam stole the power of Sparda and Dante and Virgil aged 19 in DMC3 no less and in base form maneged to topple him so yea that show’s they have a great deal of skill
Um................................................
Dante is like 10 million years old
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| 21 Apr 2008 07:46 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,614 OFFLINE | Dante is in his late 30’s his mother was human so he isn’t completely Immortal
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| 21 Apr 2008 07:47 pm |
ALL HAIL 98SUPRA Rep: 57Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 11,931 OFFLINE | Kyle Knight wrote:
Dante is in his late 30’s his mother was human so he isn’t completely Immortal
okay, your right
Im wrong
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| 21 Apr 2008 07:57 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,614 OFFLINE | thanx^^
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| 21 Apr 2008 07:59 pm |
Es Milu Tevi Engelis Rep: 43Joined: 01 Apr 2007 Posts: 9,096 | RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Tyreaus wrote:
RebornChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Didn’t Dante and Vergil wipe the floor with Arkhum(Sp?) with Sparda’s power. who had the power to beat Mundus?
They did it EASILY.
Arkham couldn’t control it properly. Chances are he didn’t tap into the full power, where Dante and Vergil (each half-devil, do the math) could.
(Sanctus had the same problem in DMC4, but was beat by just Nero)
Vergil said Arkham couldn’t handle the power of Sparda. That doesn’t mean he couldn’t use it at full power, He may not be able to use it skillfully.
I know it’s not the same exact thing but...
If I have a gun and you have the same kind of gun as I do, and you have more practice than I do, That doesn’t mean my gun doesn’t do as much as yours, you just know how to use the potential of the weapon more.
Arkham just didn’t have enough skill to use it as effectivly as Sparda himself could.
True, but it still doesn’t mean that he possibly could have not tapped into it all, as like I said before, Sanctus had trouble taking down Nero alone.
Either way, the outcome is similar enough. Not arguing against the Sparda team just yet as I have to go, but maybe later I’ll catch back up.
Toodles. lol
He probably didn’t tap in to all of it, because of his cockyness of the ultimate power being part of him.
Yeah, it’s probable that he didn’t. Might be something to do with intentions that he couldn’t use all of the power too, but that’d also tie into cockyness in a way.
And about Dante surpassing his father; fans have said he absorbed some of the Sparda sword’s power when he used it against Mundus, but I doubt his power has actually surpassed that of Sparda himself, though likely having gotten quite close. Unless someone can confirm otherwise since I haven’t looked into DMC2 as much.
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| 21 Apr 2008 08:09 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,614 OFFLINE | I just know it’s mentioned in DMC2 that Dante surpasses Sparda in every way
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| 21 Apr 2008 08:10 pm |
ALL HAIL 98SUPRA Rep: 57Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 11,931 OFFLINE | lol
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| 21 Apr 2008 08:13 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,614 OFFLINE | ???
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| 21 Apr 2008 08:15 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 57 Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 2,327 OFFLINE | Wats up ppl
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| 22 Apr 2008 09:24 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,614 OFFLINE | not alot
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| 22 Apr 2008 09:33 am |
ALL HAIL 98SUPRA Rep: 57Joined: 04 Mar 2008 Posts: 11,931 OFFLINE | ntting
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| 24 Apr 2008 11:03 am |
Buster Sword Guest | @ Kyle, yes Genesis is above Weiss in CC form. Because he’s equal to Sephiroth who is greater than Weiss also.
I don’t see how they are even going to hit Sephiroth’s barrier, if he puts one up, then of course there is intangibility and the -ve lifestream that would rape energy and the spells that Genesis AND Sephiroth can use.
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| 26 Apr 2008 08:54 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 17Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,614 OFFLINE | Nahhh Weiss is never mentioned to be weaker only that he is called out for extreamly important mission’s and that Gen was to become his “brother” their is no solid proof Gen>Weiss but their is comformation that Seph and Gen are equal aside from J-cell’s (witch Weiss wasnt given either but as you have seen he really dousent need them) so Weiss is most likely stronger than Gen untill he rechived J-Cell’s so it’s anyone’s guess really but i can’t prove anything beside’s in DoC Online (witch happened before DoC AC and VII) Weiss ability far outstrip’s Genesis and CC Seph but their is something of a 7yr lapse i belive between the two game’s CC and DoC Online but it’s just to show more on DG.
I guess it’s kinda gathered from the fact The restrictor’s fear Weiss when they beat the best in Solider in 1 night and he could stop blow’s from a tranceformed Azul in strenth and the speed of 3 Russo plus he is given the title of Emporer of all Solider so it’s a given he is incredibly powerful and from said feat’s is stronger than Gen CC.
Now Seph’s Barrior i dont belive ive seen or the Ve-Lifestream absorb energy...or Seph use Intangibiliy against Cloud IN VII or AC lol so what exactly douse he use?
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