Broly vs Superman

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YES. IT. IS! A fricken baby can survive a planet explosion? Even if it put up a shield that’s impressive since he’s only a few hours old. Stop trying to belittle Broly



Has he done anything to suggest he’s universe destroying like destroy a galaxy?



Big whoop. That’s just like the fight between Cell and Goku. Not impressive at all




You said superman moved planets. That was the same superman who got a bloody lip from Ali. Don’t try to play me for a fool



I don’t see anything. Broken link?



So? It still had the same effect and the same rule applies. Just cause superman is moving so fast that DD can’t touch him doesn’t mean NOTHING can. Plus that scan didn’t say a think about molecules. It only showed DD’s fire and punches going though him and then superman stoping to punch him in the side. Plus Gohan was able to do the same thing without moving so I guess Gohan can vibrate his molecules too, and since Broly is better than Gohan in every way...



Aside from being stronger than Freeza. You seriously need to get off this thing with Freeza’s durability. There is NOTHING and I mean NOTHING that suggests Freeza’s durability is better than anyone elses. Are you seriously going to tell me ssj2 Gohan isn’t as durable as Freeza?



Did he do it just by running into them once?



How so? We’re using anime here, buu destroyed an entire galaxy



ooooooooook...so?



Look at the gif again. I made that gif. I saw it frame for frame. He was blown up from the inside out



That’s not the same has having your entire body blown up from the inside.



I don’t care. I’m going on with the belief that he can.

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You say I have selective reading but I wonder if you do.I’m saying its more impressive if you survive an explosion with YOUR OWN DURABILITY than a forcefield.


He has the powers of the big bang and the hole point of the story was to stop him from destroying the universe.


Yet again you fail.That was with THEIR FISTS COLLIDING.No energy blasts or anything.If that doesn’t help I have scans of Post-Crisis Superman vs Earth 2 Superman destroying dimensions with every blow.


Hey guess what...Post Crisis moved planets to.I didn’t have to play you for one you played yourself.


Both links work perfect.


I really want to ask you this but I will hold my tongue to keep the debate civil.Notice I never said nothing could touch him just its more impressive than blocking with your knee.Does everything have to be spelled out for you?Other than the fact that DDs freaking fist is flying through his head he is obviously what?Vibrating his molecules ding ding ding!Also speed isn’t Brollys strong point especially since Videl was dodging his attacks.


Other than the fact that Frieza has shown he can survive a planet explosion while unconscious while Piccolo and MYSTIC GOHAN died from one.


Wait for me to find the scans.


And what did he destroy later?Earth and then he went on a rampage blowing up planets one by one.


A guy with enough strength to balance a mountain on his pinky is more impressive.Ofcourse this is how I felt when you posted the gif of him destroying it by jumping off.


I look at the gif.He bled but didn’t blow up otherwise his ass would be in pieces.


Yet again you missed the point.Whatever if Goku who’s strength is nowhere close to Supes could punch through Brolly Supes would have no problem.


Good I don’t care either.I’m going with the belief he can’t.

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*gets a popcorn, sits down, and watches*

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This topic is booming. It’s another interesting one at the most. It’s about time. We haven’t had a good one since Broly vs Darkseid and Majin Vegeta vs Broly.

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Maybe it is. Point is Broly was able to survive a planet explosion when he was only a few hours old. Name me one person in Marvel or DC, who can survive a planet explosion when their only a few hours old. REGARDLESS OF THE METHOD



In other words no. Ok listen up. Broly destroyed a galaxy in his second weakest form with his powers restricted. Piccolo laster states his Lssj form could destroy the universe. So since you have no problem believing what’s his name could destroy the universe despite him not destroying anything at all then you have no trouble believing Lssj Broly can destroy the univers



Yet again YOU fail. first of it shouldn’t matter the method in which the planet is being destroyed. It’s being destroyed cause of the fight, but since you want to use physical power



You can clearly see the ground shaking cause of Goku and Cell’s punches. Entire mountains that are far away are being shattered just by them missing their punches and kicks




Show me




I see now, but I don’t see any planet exploding




But Goku did the same thing. Both Jeice and Burters attacks went right though him too. That doesn’t mean Goku was vibrating his molecules does it?




He just woke up from a 7 year coma, he’s bond to be a little rusty




Buu’s attack =/= a planet explosion. It was much power powerful than the planet Freeza survived on. You have to stop confusing Attack that destroed a planet for a planet exploding




ok




So to you every attack buu pushes out has to be a galaxy destroying one? I know superman can travel faster than light but he doesn’t travel faster than light ALL THE TIME! Buu didn’t feel like destroying a galaxy, he just wanted to destroy earth. As for the other planets he did that cause he was looking for Goku




With his pinky? I need to see that.




Should I remake it and slow it down for you? Look at the explosion. It’s coming from INSIDE cause his boy was overloaded with energy




1. It wasn’t Goku’s punch. It was Goku with the energy from Vegeta, Piccolo, Trunks, and Gohan.

2. Unless Superman has energy in that punch and forces it inside Broly, it aint gonna do anything




Whatever

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Why don’t you read up on 5th dimension imps?Anyone of them could destroy the universe when they are a few minutes old.


Taken from you “selective reading ftl”.Imperiex had the powers of the big bang the very thing that created the universe and the main point of the storyline was to prevent him from destroying it.If DC says he was going to do it that makes it clear.


Yet again,whats more impressive?A guy who can sneeze and blow up your planet or a guy who has to charge up an energy blast to blow it up?Exactly.


Show me the EARTHQUAKES like in Zod and Supes battle while they were under a red sun meaning Supes was weakened.Infact I don’t even to use that show me Goku and anyones blows destroying dimensions.Infact since I know you’re going to ask for them.
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This is while Braniac in one of his most advanced forms is using all of his energy to stop him.Braniac had the energy of Imperiex meaning the big bang.


The bomb that was going to blow up the planet was taken into space by Supes where it blew up in his face.He returned with no problems.


Goku was shown moving Side to side though later.Its shown that Supes was just vibrating his molecules.Hell Supergirl vibrated herself invisble so Supes could aswell.


Rusty enough to where a regular human who’s only special ability is flying can dodge him?


What was destroyed?Earth and nothing more.Namek is bigger than earth so the explosion is bound to be more powerful.


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Notice Supes wasn’t even trying because he didn’t want to hurt his friends.


Superman=/=Kid Buu? Superman is an intelligent guy who saves people.Buu is a ramapaging killing machine with no care in the world.


It didn’t happen.Batman said he could and judging from Supes feats it may sound a little true.


Yes now saiyans have enough healing to bring back their organs.If Brolly was blown up from the inside all his organs would have been destroyed and he would be dead.


1.Supes won’t need help from anyone.

2.He’s already strong enough to split a planet in half with his fist.And if he doesn’t have the power he goes for a dip in the sun.

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If you clearly watch the video enough, those were not mountains crumbling in the vid from their power, they were giant rocks and stones, not mountains, but the punches did affect the area around them.

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Namek was only said to be bigger than Earth in the manga I think.

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You were right about me Nihilus, I am posting in here again, but not because of who wins this fight, it’s simply to clear up this Pre Crisis Ali pwning bollocks.


I caught his bluff. Trying to find dirt on Superman without knowing the events that took place. (and I get called the anti-fanboy/fanboy).

And here’s a site that contains every scan of that issue, I hear that Supes even had been raped with the red sun radiation, I wonder what this does to his powers?

http://sayapimaji.multiply.com/photos/album/20?&album=20&view:replies=reverse

Enjoy.

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Superman is a 5th dimension imp? I thought he was kryptonion



You say he has the big bang. What has he done to prove it?



Neither. The guy who destroyed the planet with a point of a finger without powering up like Vegeta



The EARTHQUAKES were shown in the fight. Buu destroyed a dimension too remember. Also Broly was able to make a giant earthquake just by lifting off



Ok, he’s moving the planet. Fair enough



The every explosion is the same you know. The blast Broly threw could have been stronger than that



No Goku was shown standing still and the attacks going though him. Later we see feet implants. We don’t see him moving. Show me the scan that they’re moving their molecules. Vibrating to become invisible means you’re moving too fast for the person you’re up against to see. Someone who can keep track of fast moving things would still probably see them



Let’s blow you up, throw you infront of a comet, freeze your for 7 year and see how good YOUR mobility. Also Mr. Satan was able to dodge 2 of kid buu’s attacks. Yeah they’re flukes like Videl



This is what you’re not getting. First I don’t remember it being stated namek was bigger than Earth, but whatever. Second the “It’s enough to destroy the earth 10 times” is a dub line. Apparently we can’t use that for some reason. The blast that did it could have been 1000000 times for all we know, but let’s just say it was 10 times over. That doesn’t mean it isn’t as strong as namek as we know how much bigger namek is to earth. Let’s say it’s 5 times bigger which means the attack is still 5 times more powerful than the blast Freeza survived



No one was knocked out espically just by running into superman




Exactly he’s crazy, his actions are usually illogical and makes no sense



If you don’t believe cell can destroy a solar system even though he’s billions of time stronger than a guy who could destroy a planet with ease why should I believe this


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I sounds as though you’re trying to use logic to explain this situation. Surely you joke. Yes by all logic he should be dead but guess what... HE ISN’T! You said superman fought without his heart. If that was true he’s be dead...but did he die? This proves how powerful Broly



1. Yes he will if he’s going to punch though Broly

2. Doesn’t mean he can punch though Broly. Also going into the sun for a sun dip? That sounds like an unfair advantage in a neutral battle. What makes you think they’re even fighting under a yellow sun? I’m sure in your world with your rules fit to help superman Broly loses, but in a totally neutral battle superman isn’t going to the walk in the park as you seen to believe

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You said to name ANYONE that could survive a planet explosion when their a few hours old.


The same thing Janemba did to prove he could destroy the universe.But anyway:
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Wow way to bring up a totally different thing.Also I could have sworn he fired a beam?


...I really wonder why I bother with you sometimes.Buu would pwn Brolly first off.Second the two Supermens fist colliding and with every blow a dimension was destroyed.


And what is our key word?Could have.


Which means he was moving from side to side fast and anyone with good eyes would have seen it.I already did show you the scan.Wonder Girl couldn’t see her and Supes did it once and an alien being couldn’t find him.


If I’m a freaking legendary Super Saiyan a human shouldn’t be able to dodge any of my attacks.Mister Satan also survived being knocked into a rock by Cell.He is prevented from dying through plot device.


Considering the fact its a dub ONLY line its about as canon as a fanfiction.Lets say it was a basic planet destroyer which is more than likely all it was.


That wasn’t the point.


Which means he would be as destructive as he could.


Hey you had no problem believing the sneezing and destroying the planet crap.


You still don’t understand.Also didn’t you say you weren’t going to debate again?Anyway Supes has shown that he can Vegeta got a hole through his heart and died.


1.Let me guess.Because you say so and none of the guys from DBZ could punch through him.None of the guys in DBZ also have strength anywhere close to Supes.
2.Please show me Goku punching a planet inhalf then while in base since his SSJ form punched through Brolly.Its one of his powers.He gets energy from the sun and therefore can power up from it.I don’t see anyone having a problem with Gokus spirit bomb.

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And you give me beings that can destroy a universe. Not the same as surviving a planet explosion



Thing is he did. Putting heaven and hell under his control shows us his power. Even so YOU don’t believe Janemba could which is why I’m questing this guy cause your logic is messed up. And I see in those scans he didn’t destroy anything




And where did that beam come from?



Depending on what buu. Mr, Evil, kid, and fat buu are weaker than Broly, super possibly, above that is probably stronger than Broly. Buu’s fight with Vegetto almost destroyed the universe



Exactly my point so you have no right to say it’s the same



Exactly my point! It’s cause the speed difference was so great. Someone who’s fast not only could see him but hit him as well. Same with superman and his alleged molecule moving. Just cause DD was too slow to touch him doesn’t mean Goku or Broly couldn’t



Yes you did show me the scan and I remember it well. Nothing about molecules it mentioned. I bet you just assumed it was his molecules. And yes wonder girl and the alien couldn’t see them. doesn’t mean NO ONE could




He wasn’t in his Lssj form and guess who Videl is related too



That’s bullshit and you damn well know that. Buu’s first attack was a planet destroyer and it was easily blown away by ssj Vegeta. The next attack was thousands of times bigger than the first and made Goku and Vegeta piss their pants. It was no way a “basic planet destroyer”



Then what was the point? Broly knocked out Fpssj Gohan and Ussj Trunks just by running into them once. what does that scan show me?



What part of ILLOGICAL did you not get? That does NOT mean he would be as destructive as possible it just means he’s going to do what he feels like doing. He felt like only destroying earth at the time (Probably cause he remembered Gohan and Gotneks beating him in a stronger form and wanted to prevent it from happening again) then he went looking for Goku and blowing up the planets that he wasn’t on. He does what he feels like doing. He isn’t destructive all the time otherwise he would have just destroyed the planet of the kais the moment he got there



Well I have a problem with this



You’re comparing Freeza saga base form Vegeta to the Legendary Super saiyan? What the fuck is wrong with you!?



1. Just cause superman is stronger doesn’t mean he’s going to get much further than Broly. Jackie chan is stronger than me but if we both tried to brake a mountain we’d get the same result

2. Am I talking to myself? Ssj Goku with the energy from his friends punched though Broly. We’ve already seen Goku try every physical attack in the book with Broly on his own and he didn’t get anywhere. Yes superman gets powers from the YELLOW sun. What makes you think that’s the sun they’re fighting under? How do you know it’s not a red sun? Goku’s spirit bomb is formed from life. Any kind of life, even from other dimensions. Superman’s powers are from a specific sun

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WTF?! Whats more impressive Zym.A being who can survive a planet being destroyed when a few hours old or a being that can destroy the universe when he’s only that old?


Other than the shit that was written out for you and all the destruction that proves Imperiex is a universe buster.So if I take over America I can destroy America?See how flawed your logic is?



If it was fired it would have obviously come from his finger.


After he had absorbed Gohan and was thus stronger than Brolly so your argument fails.


Actually I do.


DD speedblitzed Flash once.DD is far from slow.Its also still better because Supes was standing in one spot.


Anyone with common sense could see he was vibrating his molecules especially since he’s done it before.Great way to read wrong. I never said no one could.


And it doesn’t matter.He is still the Legendary Super Saiyan.Yes Videl is related to him but doesn’t have his plot device powers.Also Buu was sealed for millions of years and when he got out look how rusty he was...


Other than the fact that it was bigger and thus they couldn’t stop it.Just like you try to annoy the shit out of me by saying “Where does it say its him vibrating his molecules"where does it say the attack was more than a planet buster.


It shows Supes pwning guys equal to him or slightly above him easily while he himself is holding back.


He is destructive when NO ONE ELSE IS AROUND!If he was a galaxy buster farewell galaxy.


Hmm I wonder why...


You said Brolly surviving being blown from the inside shows how strong he is.I brought up how one of your high tier characters got a hole in his heart and died.It could have been end of Buu saga and a hole in his heart would still kill him.LOL you said Sheer Cold is a one hit ko on anything even the Presence.


1.Yet again comparing a human to an alien doesn’t work.Goku who in Buu saga couldn’t lift 40 tons until he went SSJ punched through Brolly.Superman who can move planets,turn the wheels of Megaddon(which trumps the solar system)and many other things so how can you tell me Supes isn’t going to punch through him.
2.Supes wouldn’t need help.Goku needed it because he didn’t have the strength to.Supes doesn’t need powerups from all his friends to punch through him.Fail a yellow sun isn’t the only sun that gives him powers.You know what lets put him under a blue sun where he gets so strong his powers go out of control.

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A being who can destroy a universe. But we weren’t talking about that now were we? Whatever. Broly surving a planet explosion the day he was born is more impressive than what superman could do when he was a few hours old. Hell it’s more impressive than what superman could do when he’s 10 years old



It was written cell could destroy the solar system and you still argue with that. And did Janemba use an army to take over heaven and hell? No. He used his own power



My point exactly. Thus my point stands



Well since you seem to be ok with using game logic Broly is equal to Gogeta who is equal to Vegetto who is stronger than buu



You do? Prove they’re the same then cause that’s the only way



Proof of that if you don’t mind. Also Gohan was standing in one spot when he did it, so i guess he’s doing the same thing superman is doing



Then for god sakes SHOW ME when he’s done it before




But he wasn’t in Lssj form, yes she does as she dodged one of Broly’s hits, and buu was pumped full of energy with the help of babidi



The first attack was a planet buster. The next one was bigger and stronger thus it was more than a planet buster



Not as impressive as what Broly did



When no one else is around? Then where was Goku and Vegeta when he destroyed earth. What about the people on the planets he later destroyed huh?



Does it matter? Prove he can or don’t bring it up again



Didn’t you read the poster? Broly isn’t just another yellow haired freak with a number at the end. By your logic I guess since some kryponitons died in a planet explosion ALL kryponions can die in a planet explosion huh? Including superman...but wait! Superman has survived a planet explosion just like Broly survived being blown up from the inside out!



1. And I’ve proven to you that ssj is capable of moving thousands of tons. Combine that with the energy from his friends. Plus even that punch couldn’t have hurt broly anywhere. They hit him in the scar he got when he was stabbed as a baby. Superman would have to know about that. And again even if he was punched though with superman unless there is energy being forced in, it’s not going to bother Broly

2. Yes he does and what makes you think it’s a blue sun? Why can’t it be a red sun huh?

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I guess you don’t know much about kryptonians.This is only true if Supes has had little to no contact with yellow or blue sunlight.


The thing is unlike Cell Imperiex actually showed his power.So since Yujiro can bring down nations he can destroy it outright?No.


Uh no.A beam destroying a planet is less impressive than a sneeze doing it.


And Videl is stronger than all of them.I only used the game because I thought it named an attack.Don’t put words in my mouth.


What did he blow up?Brolly blew up some planets and one galaxy and that was shown only once every other time was a planet being destroyed.Buu was said to have destroyed galaxies(I don’t quite remember it myself but post vids if you have it)but was shown only busting planets.


Here is Booster Gold saying he’s faster.Considering Gold has worked with Flash for years it doesn’t seem to be hyperbole.
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What are you talking about with Gohan?


He’s invisible in this scan.
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More later.


But he was still rusty as everyone said.


And Supes was holding still and vibrating his molecules.Ofcourse what I say comes into question but yours is pure fact"sarcasm”


How is ramming and koeing a bunch of guys who aren’t at your level impressive.


Yes because we saw there were people on the planets he blew up.


Yes it does.You accept certain statements because you think it won’t matter.You want me to prove Supes can lift mountains with his fingers when I’ve already showed you him moving a planet,lifting a mountain large enough to crush Metropolis at one of his weakest states,etc.


Yes all of them would if they unlike Superman don’t live for years under a yellow sun.Since he has lived so long he can survive a planet explosion.Also Brolly is just a yellow haired freak without a number.The only difference is unlike other Saiyans he gets stronger the longer the fight goes on.


1.Yes lets ignore Goku in Buu saga struggling to lift 40 tons.In YOUR mind you proved it but to everyone else you didn’t.You honestly think the scar is the only place he can be hurt?So by your logic Thanos couldn’t kill Brolly unless he punched him in the scar.LOFL!
2.No he doesn’t.Its pretty clear Darkseid pwns Brolly and Supes has gone toe to toe with him on occasion.I never said it was a blue sun I was correcting you.

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Wait I meant to say anime not manga.

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I don’t care the reason. Point is surving a planet explosion is something no superman could do when they’re only a few hours old



But he didn’t actually destroy a universe did he. Cell has shown he can destroy planets, but you don’t believe he can make it into a solar system. And who does Yujiro bring down nations



No it isn’t. Can superman sneeze at will? No. Can Vegeta fire energy beams at will? Yes.



You used game logic period. You can’t just use game lgoc for the things that help you. You take the good and the bad



Broly blew up a planet...ok? And? Are all planets the same size? Would it take the same amount of power to destroy earth and jupiter? And the episode is 204 energy drain when they show buu destroying a galaxy



First you said he speedblitz the flash...where’s the flash? Second DD faster than the flash? I don’t care how long he’s worked with the Flash. Unless flash himself says it I don’t believe it






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I can still see him...and I can’t read a thing



No one said he was rusty. But it would explain how he let Dabura throw a spear in him



Where does it say he was holding still huh? It had the same effects as when Goku did it so who’s to say he just wasn’t moving fast?



Knocking out some of the strongest beings in the universe, who can destroy planets with ease just by running into them is impressive



...YES...WE DID!



Moving a planet isn’t the same as lifitng. I can move my refregirator, but that doesn’t mean i can lift it



Yellow?

That’s green buddy. And yes, like superman who got stronger by living under a yellow sun, Broly went Lssj which made all of his body stronger meaning he can survive being blown up from the inside out




Let’s also ignore that was base. Goku was ssj in the movie




Speak for yourself. I proved to you and bustersword Coolers death ball had to have been a few thouand tons. Are you seriously telling me you’ve forgotten?



I haven’t been proven otherwise





We’re talking about superman




Broly owns darkaied. I’ve proven this to you but you see to ignore it. Oh well, looks like i have to go back to the DS vs Broly topic. Whatever, point is superman getting a powerup from a sun is an advantge as it counts as outside help

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Okay I take baby Superman.I live him in the sun for a few hours and then put him on an exploding planet.He would survive because he has absorbed a large amount of sunlight.


Did you miss where its said he destroyed it and then started it all over again.Yujiro brings down nations with his fighting skills,intelligence,and strength.Doesn’t mean he can outright destroy it.


Thats the dumbest thing I’ve heard in this whole thread.Okay you can destroy a planet by firing a beam while all I have to do is sneeze and the planet is destroyed.Hmm what sounds more impressive?


This is funny considering you like to use the anime but presented me with manga scans that one time.


Post a vid.Your still missing the point.The main point was he was only busting planets after he destroyed the galaxy.


This yet again shows your bias.You accept Gokus statement of Janemba destroying the universe,you accept Cells statement of him being able to destroy the solar system,yet when DC charcters say something you don’t accept it especially if it hurts your argument.

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We already had this debate, and it led to you saying ridiculous things like your heart stops when you sneeze.


Actually I asked you about speed, and you said 'what has speed got to do with it?' You forget Force = Mass x Acceleration.

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Superman when he’s 10 hasn’t shown the ability to survive a planet explosion. He’s going to need more than a few hours




Yes it SAID he destroyed it...but it show him destroying it? And if Yujiro can bring down nation without moving, or even really doing anything at all then yes I’m sure he can destroy it



One cannot sneeze at will



The anime and manga aren’t two totally different things. The anime is based off the manga. 70% of the anime happened in the manga so I was provding a scan of what happened in the anime and manga



Maybe that’s cause he already destroyed the galaxy and all that’s left are a few planets.

http://videodragonball.blogspot.com/

Watch it there



Same can be said about you. And normally I would accept it if DC characters say it, but since you don’t do it with DBZ characters why the hell should I do it with DC characters?



Too bad he fought Broly after this and got owned in a minute



He’s a bad guy. ALL bad guys boast. Darksied boasts, Lex luthor boasts, it’s what bad guys do. That doesn’t mean everything that comes out of their mouths is a lie



They’ve shown DBZ characters invisable to us before. Give a scan I can actually READ why don’t you?




No. He said

“All those years in that ball MUST have weakened him”

This was when he thought buu was dead cause all that came out was smoke



Where does it say he’s doing it this time



Compared to you yes, but in general no



I gave you the link to watch DBZ vids, it the episode after “end of earth”



That doesn’t mean he can do it with his pinky



Broly isn’t vegeta. He survied being blown up from the inside. And Superman is a freak with ridiculously smooth hair



Base Goku > Ssj Goku in movie 8? I assume you’ve got something to back that up



No that’s just you. Coolers death ball was going to go though 4000 miles of rock and steel. It’s resting weight may not be that much, but when you add the force, mass, speed, ect, Goku is puhsing up against at least a few thoudans tons of pressure



He can also be hurt if his body is overloaded with energy. Something Superman can’t do



I bet you would



No you left the topic and never came back. I left cause i was tired of busterswords bullshit. I was promised scans of darksied survived galaxy busting attacks and destroy a galaxy and I never got them. I just assumed you were making stuff up. And no, his natural ability is to absorb sunlight, but since it varies on the sun it should be considered outside help