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#81
26 Apr 2008 01:55 pm
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I left cause i was tired of busterswords bullshit.

As I remember you left not knowing what a reflex was, not knowing what the speed of lightning was, thinking that the heart stops when you sneeze, thinking Buu can beat Prime, then there’s your condescending 'Prove me wrong? In your dreams maybe.' attitude, and there’s also the flamming, so either you left because you couldn’t counter these things or you just realised that you were talking bullshit.
#82
26 Apr 2008 01:59 pm
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Maybethat’s cause he already destroyed the galaxy and all that’s left are a few planets.

Either you are saying that DBZ only have one galaxy, or he didn’t destroy the whole galaxy in one go.
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Buster Sword wrote:
Maybethat’s cause he already destroyed the galaxy and all that’s left are a few planets.

Either you are saying that DBZ only have one galaxy, or he didn’t destroy the whole galaxy in one go.


The place they were fighting in was the reamins of the south galaxy. There were only a few planets left cause Paragus needed them
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Buster Sword wrote:
I left cause i was tired of busterswords bullshit.

As I remember you left not knowing what a reflex was, not knowing what the speed of lightning was, thinking that the heart stops when you sneeze, thinking Buu can beat Prime, then there’s your condescending 'Prove me wrong? In your dreams maybe.' attitude, and there’s also the flamming, so either you left because you couldn’t counter these things or you just realised that you were talking bullshit.


You arguing superman didn’t have ki was the last straw
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#85
26 Apr 2008 02:47 pm
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The last straw? LMFAO. You said Aura is the same as Ki, when it ISNT.
You and your ego is enough to put anyone off debating with you, do you want me to go through all the ridciculous things you’ve said? I mean I love how you miss all the points I just made like you said the heart stops but you just ignored it and said the ki thing was the last straw, do I smell ignorance?
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26 Apr 2008 03:02 pm
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Superman owns.
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Buster Sword wrote: The last straw? LMFAO. You said Aura is the same as Ki, when it ISNT.
You and your ego is enough to put anyone off debating with you, do you want me to go through all the ridciculous things you’ve said? I mean I love how you miss all the points I just made like you said the heart stops but you just ignored it and said the ki thing was the last straw, do I smell ignorance?


Aura is an effect of chi. All living beings have ki, and as a result they also have and aura. No life, no ki, no arua
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#88
26 Apr 2008 03:24 pm
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Aura is an effect of chi. All living beings have ki, and as a result they also have and aura. No life, no ki, no arua

Nope, you said Aura is the SAME as Ki. And STILL the ignorance.
#89
26 Apr 2008 03:30 pm
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Superman has a bio-electric aura that shields him from physical damage


Last time I checked, ki was spiritual energy.
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Buster Sword wrote:
Superman has a bio-electric aura that shields him from physical damage


Last time I checked, ki was spiritual energy.


It’s life energy. If it’s the energy that you have when you’re alive. Is superman alive? Yes? Then he has ki. End of discussion
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#91
26 Apr 2008 04:51 pm
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It’s life energy. If it’s the energy that you have when you’re alive. Is superman alive? Yes? Then he has ki. End of discussion
Again, completely read only what you wish to read. Not only did you ignore that YOU said Aura and Ki are the same thing, but you also fail because by your logic ki is kinetic energy, living things all move, but we know kinetic energy and ki are different things. Next you’ll be saying thermal energy is ki. And STILL the ignorance, you have a habit of this don’t you?
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Buster Sword wrote:
It’s life energy. If it’s the energy that you have when you’re alive. Is superman alive? Yes? Then he has ki. End of discussion
Again, completely read only what you wish to read. Not only did you ignore that YOU said Aura and Ki are the same thing, but you also fail because by your logic ki is kinetic energy, living things all move, but we know kinetic energy and ki are different things. Next you’ll be saying thermal energy is ki. And STILL the ignorance, you have a habit of this don’t you?


Don’t start with me boy. You’ve been wrong before too and I don’t bring it up all the time
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#93
26 Apr 2008 06:37 pm
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Don’t start with me boy. You’ve been wrong before too and I don’t bring it up all the time

First off, don’t call me boy, as it does you no favours, you want me to stop pointing out your flaws? Well admitting them in the first case would do you wonders, see I don’t care about being wrong, and I can admit when I’m wrong, my ego isn’t big enough to be ignorant about it, the fact that you IGNORE your mistakes is the reason why I bring it up alot of the time. You try to point out others mistakes whilst ignoring your own. And it’s not just your ignorance, it’s your attitude too you know, you can be a debator who’s almost always right, but still be a condescending, flamming person, because you can’t deny that you are condescending. I can go on, but whatever.
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superman kicks the shit out of brolly
if goku and superman are even then superman kick the shit out of him
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God Father of Goku and Jesus wrote: superman kicks the shit out of brolly
if goku and superman are even then superman kick the shit out of him


If Goku and superman are even and Broly beat Goku then superman gets beat. Did you even see the Broly movies?
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Wasn’t ki in a rock on king kai’s planet.
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Superman Prime wrote: Wasn’t ki in a rock on king kai’s planet.


where did you get this idea
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Invaderzym wrote:
Superman when he’s 10 hasn’t shown the ability to survive a planet explosion. He’s going to need more than a few hours

Supes after being in the sun for only a few hours was pwning Imperiex probes.Put a baby kryptonian in the sun for hours and take them out they can survive it.

Invaderzym wrote:
Yes it SAID he destroyed it...but it show him destroying it? And if Yujiro can bring down nation without moving, or even really doing anything at all then yes I’m sure he can destroy it

Lets look at the scans again.We see a universe get destroyed.Also its funny because Cell said the exact same thing and said nothing but you believe it.Yujiro is a regular human with great fighting skills and strength.

Invaderzym wrote:
One cannot sneeze at will

Its still more impressive.

Invaderzym wrote:
The anime and manga aren’t two totally different things. The anime is based off the manga. 70% of the anime happened in the manga so I was provding a scan of what happened in the anime and manga

The games story line follows the anime for the most part aswell.The only thing that ruins it is in gameplay anyone can defeat each other.

Invaderzym wrote:
Maybe that’s cause he already destroyed the galaxy and all that’s left are a few planets.

http://videodragonball.blogspot.com/

Watch it there

So yet again your implying theres only one galaxy.DBZ has four.

Invaderzym wrote:
Same can be said about you. And normally I would accept it if DC characters say it, but since you don’t do it with DBZ characters why the hell should I do it with DC characters?

If Majin Buu who is stronger than Cell only destroyed a planet and Cell claimed he could destroy a solar system what are you going to believe?Theres also the fact that DC themselves said Our Worlds At War was to stop Imperiex from destroying the universe.

Invaderzym wrote:
Too bad he fought Broly after this and got owned in a minute

The first movie takes place before the Cell saga.The second takes place after and Brolly himself was stronger from surviving a near death experience.

Invaderzym wrote:
He’s a bad guy. ALL bad guys boast. Darksied boasts, Lex luthor boasts, it’s what bad guys do. That doesn’t mean everything that comes out of their mouths is a lie

The thing about Darkseid is he puts his money where his mouth is.

Invaderzym wrote:
They’ve shown DBZ characters invisable to us before. Give a scan I can actually READ why don’t you?

So Toriyama=/=the guys who draw for DC?They have different drawing styles.You annoy the shit out of me sometimes with your asking of scans and when I provide you ask for more.

Invaderzym wrote:
No. He said

“All those years in that ball MUST have weakened him”

This was when he thought buu was dead cause all that came out was smoke

And considering he got hit by Dabura this is more than proven.

Invaderzym wrote:
Where does it say he’s doing it this time

What mangas do you read?Those everything have to be spelled out for you?In DBZ when characters fly does it state they are moving at the speed of light?No it doesn’t.

Invaderzym wrote:
Compared to you yes, but in general no

I can see yet again someone failed to read my argument.Brolly was pwning guys who are weaker than he is.Supes pwned guys who are on his level and some are superior.

Invaderzym wrote:
I gave you the link to watch DBZ vids, it the episode after “end of earth”

Number of episode.

Invaderzym wrote:
That doesn’t mean he can do it with his pinky

And because Janemba took over heaven and hell doesn’t mean he can destroy the universe.

Invaderzym wrote:
Broly isn’t vegeta. He survied being blown up from the inside. And Superman is a freak with ridiculously smooth hair

I don’t have a problem with anyone calling Supes a freak you seem to though with Brolly.Yet again you missed the point.

Invaderzym wrote:
Base Goku > Ssj Goku in movie 8? I assume you’ve got something to back that up

Come on Zym.The guy trains all the time and by the time the Buu saga came Base Goku was stronger than SSJ Goku in movie 8.

Invaderzym wrote:
No that’s just you. Coolers death ball was going to go though 4000 miles of rock and steel. It’s resting weight may not be that much, but when you add the force, mass, speed, ect, Goku is puhsing up against at least a few thoudans tons of pressure

Buster already answered.

Invaderzym wrote:
He can also be hurt if his body is overloaded with energy. Something Superman can’t do

Heat vision the whole in his stomach.

Invaderzym wrote:
I bet you would

Cause it is.

Invaderzym wrote:
No you left the topic and never came back. I left cause i was tired of busterswords bullshit. I was promised scans of darksied survived galaxy busting attacks and destroy a galaxy and I never got them. I just assumed you were making stuff up. And no, his natural ability is to absorb sunlight, but since it varies on the sun it should be considered outside help

I never got a reply from my post.You only were responding to Bustersword.The thing is I provided you with scans of him taking a blast and you denied them.I showed you scans of the antilife equation in action and you said “Brolly kills him before he uses it”.And no its not considered outside help.Do you consider it outside help that Goku killed Cooler by flying him into the sun?
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Manchester Black wrote: Supes after being in the sun for only a few hours was pwning Imperiex probes.Put a baby kryptonian in the sun for hours and take them out they can survive it.


Baby superman was pwnign imperiex? Wow that is more impressive than Broly...no. There’s nothing to suggest a kryptonion BABY in the sun for a few hours can survive a planet explosion

Manchester Black wrote: Lets look at the scans again.We see a universe get destroyed.Also its funny because Cell said the exact same thing and said nothing but you believe it.Yujiro is a regular human with great fighting skills and strength.


If you were willing to believe cell could destroy a solar system and Lssj Broly could destroy a universe then I’d have no problem accepting this guy could destroy a universe. But since this guy is basiclly doing what Cell did and you don’t believe cell, why should I believe this guy? If you accept cell can destroy a solar system I’ll accept this guy can destroy the universe. I think that’s a fair trade.

Also is janemba a regular human with super strengh and fighting skills...no. don’t compare the two

Manchester Black wrote:
Its still more impressive.


In your opinion. Destroying a planet is destroying a planet. Personally I’d be more afriad of someone who can destroy a planet any time they want rather than someone who can if they sneeze, whenever that would be

Manchester Black wrote:
The games story line follows the anime for the most part aswell.The only thing that ruins it is in gameplay anyone can defeat each other.


Gameplay =/= story. It’s two different things

Manchester Black wrote: So yet again your implying theres only one galaxy.DBZ has four.


No. The place they were at were the remains of the south galaxy. They didn’t move to another galaxy. And the DBZ universe doesn’t have only 4 galaxies

Manchester Black wrote: If Majin Buu who is stronger than Cell only destroyed a planet and Cell claimed he could destroy a solar system what are you going to believe?Theres also the fact that DC themselves said Our Worlds At War was to stop Imperiex from destroying the universe.


This is a problem with you. You seem to think that they HAVE to destroy more than planets everytime. Buu only destroyed earth cause that’s only what he (and most importantly Akira) wanted to be destroyed. I mean think about it. Cell is stronger than Freeza who destroyed a planet right? But does cell push out planet destroying blasts ALL THE TIME?

Manchester Black wrote: The first movie takes place before the Cell saga.The second takes place after and Brolly himself was stronger from surviving a near death experience.


ok...so? It’s still Broly. Topic says Broly, not movie 8 Broly. Point stands

Manchester Black wrote: The thing about Darkseid is he puts his money where his mouth is.


Darksied has said he’s going to kill superman loads of times. Has he?

Manchester Black wrote: So Toriyama=/=the guys who draw for DC?They have different drawing styles.You annoy the shit out of me sometimes with your asking of scans and when I provide you ask for more.


I’m asking for something I can read since it can’t use visuals

Manchester Black wrote:
And considering he got hit by Dabura this is more than proven.


Maybe he just wasn’t paying attention. He has the mind of a 5 year old. Plus Cell get hit by Vegeta even though he JUST got a major power up. Are you going to tell me cell is rusty?

Manchester Black wrote: What mangas do you read?Those everything have to be spelled out for you?In DBZ when characters fly does it state they are moving at the speed of light?No it doesn’t.


Thing is we’ve seen that you don’t HAVE to move your molecues to get that effect. So tell me why I should believe he is when we’ve seen you don’t have to

Manchester Black wrote:
I can see yet again someone failed to read my argument.Brolly was pwning guys who are weaker than he is.Supes pwned guys who are on his level and some are superior.


The reason I posted it is to show how strong they were and how vastly stronger Broly was

Manchester Black wrote:
Number of episode.


It has the episode titles. It’s the one after end of earth. Ctrl F end of earth and watch the episode after it

Manchester Black wrote:
And because Janemba took over heaven and hell doesn’t mean he can destroy the universe.


With they way he did it. So basiclly you just admited superman can’t lift a mountian with his pinky

Manchester Black wrote:
I don’t have a problem with anyone calling Supes a freak you seem to though with Brolly.Yet again you missed the point.


You called Broly a freak...granted he himself called himself a freak, but that’s no reason to insult the guys hair. Look I don’t even know why we are arguing about this. Broly survived being blown up from the inside out. I don’t care if it makes sense or not it happened. Superman breathed in space despite that being impossible but you don’t hear me bitch about how it didn’t happen cause it was impossble

Manchester Black wrote:
Come on Zym.The guy trains all the time and by the time the Buu saga came Base Goku was stronger than SSJ Goku in movie 8.


I’m not saying they didn’t train. Maybe he’s stronger than his namek ssj self, but movie 5 takes place right before the android saga. That’s another stroy. Unless you’ve got some semi-decent proof he’s stronger than his android saga ssj self other than you saying it, don’t bring it up again

Manchester Black wrote:
Buster already answered.


Yeah ok? Doesn’t change tht fact it had to be seveal thousand tons of pressure

Manchester Black wrote:
Heat vision the whole in his stomach.


Overloaded with KI energy. Come on try to keep up

Manchester Black wrote:
Cause it is.


In your world maybe

Manchester Black wrote:
I never got a reply from my post.You only were responding to Bustersword.The thing is I provided you with scans of him taking a blast and you denied them.I showed you scans of the antilife equation in action and you said “Brolly kills him before he uses it”.


You showed me getting hit with a beam and called it galaxy busting without any proof

Manchester Black wrote:
And no its not considered outside help.Do you consider it outside help that Goku killed Cooler by flying him into the sun?


Goku after beating cooler

“Yes! I did it...with a little HELP FROM THE SUN!"

Yes it is considered outside help. Goku himself considered it outside help. If the sun wasn’t there cooler wouldn’t have been beat that way. Goku still would have pwned him though. so yes, the sun is outside help
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28 Apr 2008 01:52 pm
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Invaderzym wrote:
Baby superman was pwnign imperiex? Wow that is more impressive than Broly...no. There’s nothing to suggest a kryptonion BABY in the sun for a few hours can survive a planet explosion

I sometimes wonder about the sanity of my world.If a kryptonian goes into the sun its called a sundip.Kryptonians after only a few hours of sundipping have redicoulous ass feats.

Invaderzym wrote:
If you were willing to believe cell could destroy a solar system and Lssj Broly could destroy a universe then I’d have no problem accepting this guy could destroy a universe. But since this guy is basiclly doing what Cell did and you don’t believe cell, why should I believe this guy? If you accept cell can destroy a solar system I’ll accept this guy can destroy the universe. I think that’s a fair trade.

If only I didn’t have these:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/1-29.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/juggernaut666666/2-20.jpg

Invaderzym wrote:
Also is janemba a regular human with super strengh and fighting skills...no. don’t compare the two

I find this funny since all you do is compare humans with aliens.Anyway it was another way to show you how flawed your logic is.

Invaderzym wrote:
In your opinion. Destroying a planet is destroying a planet. Personally I’d be more afriad of someone who can destroy a planet any time they want rather than someone who can if they sneeze, whenever that would be

In your opinion destroying it with a beam is more impressive but in my opinion destroying with a sneeze is more impressive.

Invaderzym wrote:
Gameplay =/= story. It’s two different things

You have no right to talk to buster about selective reading...

Invaderzym wrote:
No. The place they were at were the remains of the south galaxy. They didn’t move to another galaxy. And the DBZ universe doesn’t have only 4 galaxies

So then Brolly didn’t destroy the whole galaxy since there were still planets left?Also North,South,East,and West galaxy since were going by the anime.

Invaderzym wrote:
This is a problem with you. You seem to think that they HAVE to destroy more than planets everytime. Buu only destroyed earth cause that’s only what he (and most importantly Akira) wanted to be destroyed. I mean think about it. Cell is stronger than Freeza who destroyed a planet right? But does cell push out planet destroying blasts ALL THE TIME?

And Freeza is stronger than Master Roshi who destroyed what?The moon.

Invaderzym wrote:
ok...so? It’s still Broly. Topic says Broly, not movie 8 Broly. Point stands

Uh no it doesn’t.Yet again your selective reading ftl.You showed me Gohan phasing it doesn’t matter since not only was that Gohan stronger from when he fought Brolly but Brolly isn’t that fast.

Invaderzym wrote:
Darksied has said he’s going to kill superman loads of times. Has he?

No.Darkseid knows he can’t kill Superman because the Source won’t allow it.

Invaderzym wrote:
I’m asking for something I can read since it can’t use visuals

What do you need to read it for?But whatever.

Invaderzym wrote:
Maybe he just wasn’t paying attention. He has the mind of a 5 year old. Plus Cell get hit by Vegeta even though he JUST got a major power up. Are you going to tell me cell is rusty?

Cell wasn’t necassaryly serious now was he.

Invaderzym wrote:
Thing is we’ve seen that you don’t HAVE to move your molecues to get that effect. So tell me why I should believe he is when we’ve seen you don’t have to

Other than the fact he vibrates his molecules to go invisible among other things...Gee I wonder...

Invaderzym wrote:
The reason I posted it is to show how strong they were and how vastly stronger Broly was

Do you know how stronger Wonder Woman,Green Lantern,Flash,and Martian Manhunter are?

Invaderzym wrote:
It has the episode titles. It’s the one after end of earth. Ctrl F end of earth and watch the episode after it

Fine

Invaderzym wrote:
With they way he did it. So basiclly you just admited superman can’t lift a mountian with his pinky

Um no I didn’t...Not only selective reading but now your putting words in my mouth.

Invaderzym wrote:
You called Broly a freak...granted he himself called himself a freak, but that’s no reason to insult the guys hair. Look I don’t even know why we are arguing about this. Broly survived being blown up from the inside out. I don’t care if it makes sense or not it happened. Superman breathed in space despite that being impossible but you don’t hear me bitch about how it didn’t happen cause it was impossble

I can provide you with a scan showing Mongul talking about it.

Invaderzym wrote:
I’m not saying they didn’t train. Maybe he’s stronger than his namek ssj self, but movie 5 takes place right before the android saga. That’s another stroy. Unless you’ve got some semi-decent proof he’s stronger than his android saga ssj self other than you saying it, don’t bring it up again

Since were using anime look at the Goku vs Pikkon fight.

Invaderzym wrote:
Yeah ok? Doesn’t change tht fact it had to be seveal thousand tons of pressure

It does considering you were proven wrong and never answered.

Invaderzym wrote:
Overloaded with KI energy. Come on try to keep up

Notice everyone he’s chaning his words.Earlier he said energy in general.

Invaderzym wrote:
In your world maybe

In your world Bleach and DBZ pwn Marvel and DC so...

Invaderzym wrote:
You showed me getting hit with a beam and called it galaxy busting without any proof

The funny thing is I gave you proof you just didn’t accept it.Also what do you have to say about your comments regarding the antilife equation?

Invaderzym wrote:
Goku after beating cooler

“Yes! I did it...with a little HELP FROM THE SUN!"

Yes it is considered outside help. Goku himself considered it outside help. If the sun wasn’t there cooler wouldn’t have been beat that way. Goku still would have pwned him though. so yes, the sun is outside help

Thats not the same as powering up from the sun...
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