petrofsky wrote:

You misunderstood my post. I was suspecting that, wrongly worded. Life cannot come from live material if there was one point where there was no life (before earth perhaps?) so all material is dead in a way. These dead materials, (atoms and molecules) construct something that is “alive” like us and they all react in ways that make us work, move, and think. It is all chemistry.

Itachi Uchiha wrote:

It phails already and miller has shows that before...

petrofsky wrote: I wrote my own little simple definition of nihilism. It may help some people.

MY VIEWS AND BELIEFS ON NIHILISM
By Petrofsky

Intro:

Nihilism is not a very easy thing to discuss, both emotionally and physically. It is difficult emotionally because it could give thinkers a feeling of worthlessness and hopelessness, and physically because it is just plain old hard to explain. I will try to keep short and sweet. If it happens to be a bit long for you readers, please bare with me, or if not, don’t comment or judge me, for nihilism is a pretty controversial subject, especially towards religious followers. I became a nihilist after going through rougher times in my life, and began questioning the existence of god. Eventually, the same ideas and beliefs that nihilism contains entered my head, and it then made perfect sense. Here, I will try to put the beliefs into my own words, and in a way that most people can understand.
Before we begin, keep in mind that the word nihilism comes from the Greek word “nihil” meaning nothing, thus creating the word “nihilism” or the belief in nothing. This term may not make sense when you first read it, but after reading my comments you may understand what it is all about, if not, do your own research, because of how difficult it is to explain. When we mean by the belief in nothing, we mean the belief in the non-existences of morals, good, evil, God, emotion, life, etc.

I. GOD

There simply is no physical or scientific proof of a God. Also, evidence in the bible, torah, etc. explains this with their inaccuracy of subjects dealing with ethics, geographical situations, historical happenings, etc. Also the idea that hundreds, if not, thousands of Gods have been created, but have been proven wrong supports the idea God does not exist.

II. MORALS

My second topic, morals do not exist. Religious people may already be on my ass for believing this, and thinking I am evil, or a preacher of Satan, but for those who do think this, you are a colossal moron. Hear me out. Why do morals not exist? Like I my previous topic of the absence of God, what is the proof of there being morals? Most people would say God created morals, but what if there is no God? Where are morals now? Where were morals officially written before we as humans came to a rise? Who defined what was good or bad when we were trying to survive in the wild? There is none. Morals are established in our head, “brainwashed” in a stronger term to tell us what is right and wrong as a fact rather than an actual opinion, though there was nothing to tell us this many years ago before the existence of God or government. Gods and government to keep order so people can work in an organized fashion for the benefit of mankind created morals. It does work, and it is a great thing I must say, but once again, back before all of this, who would prevent someone from coming murder, or robbing someone, etc.? Where do the morals come in? Religion and government has not come into existence and put these ideas into our head yet, so is it good or bad? The answer is neither. Another example of the absence of morals is through political views. Americans find the persecution of people for different beliefs immoral, but the Middle Easterners find it right. Where are the morals coming in?

III. RELIGION / GOVERNMENT

Religion does not exist. This idea may not seem to make sense, but I will try to explain my best. How did religion start if God did not exist? Through human beings, and through a book a few humans made that would soon be realized and looked at as the “Holy Book.” If we connect the idea that there is no God to the idea of religion, how does religion exist? I will say it exists not physically, but mentally. We have established churches and places for prayer, but that is not religion itself, but establishments of religion. Religion is mental thing because we are told through books and people about it, passing down from generation to generation. Unfortunately, people seem to miss the idea that there is no difference between the bible and a bedtime story. They both are just as unlikely scientifically. But because we are told that what is in the bible is true constantly throughout our entire lives, we mentally believe in these stories, thus making religion a mental thing that people consciously believe through brainwashing. The same goes for government. Humans established government. Government is not something we can physically see, but something that exists in our minds because people who started government set up punishments for those who have done wrong in their minds.

IV. EMOTION

Emotion does not exist because we all run on chemical balances and combinations. Imbalances create sadness, anger, etc. We feel certain ways as an instinctual way to tell us what we need or want. Our mind telling us we are in danger will make us feel scared, making the chemicals in our brain imbalanced, and making us feel that particular way. So emotion does not exist in a particular way, but it DOES EXIST in an instinctual way. Our instincts make us feel certain ways to react in certain situations.

V. LIFE

This is probably the most confusing, so I put it last. We are all made of atoms and molecules, which are not living things that come together to make a “living organism.” So in a way, we are not really alive. I apologize in advance for this one for it is very hard to explain, so I will not go on for this one.

CONCLUSION

In conclusion, these are my beliefs as a nihilist. I hope you are able to understand my ideas better.

Itachi Uchiha wrote:

Abraham — ->Moses — — >Jesus — — >Muhammad

Prophet Muhammad SAW never know who they are but He know them very well... can you explain that to me...???


Jews and Christian not enter Arab at the age of Islam but how come Prophet Muhammad SAW mention them and their books....???


who told them while He never go to school, cant read and write...


explanation please...

Sean of the Living wrote: Since when is Nihilism misunderstood anyway?

Itachi Uchiha wrote: I know nihilist will deny this...

Itachi Uchiha wrote: But can you PROVE that they actually saw something. Are you actually them? No. Are you actually positive they exist? No. You trust a book for answers when it is just as accurate as a bedtime story.

Those are all mentioning in your Holy Books which cannot be proven. All of the “proof” you are trying to give me does not have any scientific value nor does it make sense in a conversation like this.

I discussed this with you through PM, but you never did reply to me on this note after asking me this. Why didn’t you reply? Why are you asking me again? Run out of ideas? Just come to respect me and I will respect you. That is something you don’t understand.
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You not get the point...

Al Buruuj:1 " By the stars of the constellations”

not sciences huh...???

petrofsky wrote:

But those sciences have nothing to do with the proof of God or the truth of the stories in the Quran.

Itachi Uchiha wrote:

Still in denial...

Itachi Uchiha wrote: That pis is great... I think my master will love it...

Itachi Uchiha wrote:

Are you the member of the brotherhood of darkness...???