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28 Apr 2008 03:27 pm
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=562236&in_page_id=1766&ito=1490

This is really quite amazing. This Orangutan is the first one to be seen using a tool. My hypothesis is that god made that Orangutan mimic human behavior to test our faith.

And as always... Itachi, introduce me to your explanation. I am very anxious to get acquainted with it.

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28 Apr 2008 03:54 pm
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oh no!
planet of the apes!

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28 Apr 2008 03:56 pm
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That is austounding! That helps shows us how closely related both mentally and physically we are to apes, monkeys, etc. It helps point us to finding out more about evolution. We may have evolved from an animal like that.

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28 Apr 2008 04:04 pm
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At first I was wondering if it was simply mimicking what it saw a human do, or if it had thought of how to use it on it’s own. This statement is what gave me my answer.

“This individual had seen locals fishing with spears on the Gohong River.

Although the method required too much skill for him to master, he was later able to improvise by using the pole to catch fish already trapped in the locals' fishing lines.“


So it seems it watched others do it, then tried it itself. However, failing to catch fish, it thought of other ways it could use the tool.

Simply amazing. Astounding really.

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28 Apr 2008 04:06 pm
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NEREVAR117 wrote: At first I was wondering if it was simply mimicking what it saw a human do, or if it had thought of how to use it on it’s own. This statement is what gave me my answer.

“This individual had seen locals fishing with spears on the Gohong River.

Although the method required too much skill for him to master, he was later able to improvise by using the pole to catch fish already trapped in the locals' fishing lines.“


So it seems it watched others do it, then tried it itself. However, failing to catch fish, it thought of other ways it could use the tool.

Simply amazing. Astounding really.

yah in a way it was mimicking (monkey see, monkey do)
but still its amazing that it go so far in attempting

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28 Apr 2008 04:18 pm
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Fuck their getting smarter!

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28 Apr 2008 05:12 pm
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This doesn’t really surprise me, orangutans have been known to paddle boats from watching humans (which is much cooler then fishing my my opinionsmiley).


Although, I do think this is slightly silly in the religious section. I realize (or assume) it is supposed to be evidence of evolution, but this isn’t evidence. Orangutans have had the mimicking characteristic for a long long time.

Anyway, this isn’t evidence that the chimps are evolving either. They may be able to mimic, but they can’t teach. Baby chimps aren’t learning to swim, catch fish and paddle a boat from it’s parents. Besides, evolution is biological not physiological. Unless you show me that this chimp has a bigger (or smaller) brain then her friend and that’s why he can fish, then nothing is particularly different with this chimp then many who came before her.
I mean, humans have new ideas all the time, we don’t evolve unless those ideas take hold and change the lifestyles of generations (aka: fire, clothes, farming, medicine, etc). And even those changes take forever (see below).

You want better evidence for evolution? Check out my wisdom teeth. SOBs crowd my mouth and have to come out. boo earns. Wish I was born in the evolved post-wisdom teeth era. Instead of the “mouth got smaller but wisdom teeth still grow in” era wink.

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28 Apr 2008 05:18 pm
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Treeplanter, your sig kicks major ass.

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28 Apr 2008 05:27 pm
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NEREVAR117 wrote: Treeplanter, your sig kicks major ass.



Thanks, tuscan made it for mesmiley
I have no idea what “for the love of the world” means. unless it’s like “for goodness sake!" you know...“For the love of the world!"

Either way, I’m thinking it’s kind in gestersmiley

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28 Apr 2008 08:09 pm
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ramunematt wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=562236&in_page_id=1766&ito=1490

This is really quite amazing. This Orangutan is the first one to be seen using a tool. My hypothesis is that god made that Orangutan mimic human behavior to test our faith.

And as always... Itachi, introduce me to your explanation. I am very anxious to get acquainted with it.


Perhaps you will be surprise since they also take out ants using tools (wood) and some bird using stone to break through the camel bird eggs...

so yeah something like that...

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28 Apr 2008 08:26 pm
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Orangutans use tools all the time. God made them like that.

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28 Apr 2008 08:31 pm
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yupe...

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28 Apr 2008 08:43 pm
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Hey matt this is for you



and orang utan evolution...??? ooo... please deh...



Orang utan trying to be human walking bipedal...



hahahahaha....

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28 Apr 2008 08:43 pm
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Whoa!!

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28 Apr 2008 08:47 pm
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I hope matt like it...

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28 Apr 2008 09:21 pm
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Orangutans are going through evolution. The ones that are surviving are the ones most like us because we as humans have great intelligence, which is probably the most important aspect of survival. Who knows, perhaps someday, they will become closely related to us.

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29 Apr 2008 12:52 am
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they will not evolve to something else... they have it since thousand of years... they just still apes...

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29 Apr 2008 12:59 am
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i think its fake because apes monkeys eat fruits and veggies

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29 Apr 2008 01:01 am
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and bugs but i never saw proof of a ape monkey etc
eating fish

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29 Apr 2008 01:09 am
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They will never evolve to something else... they just what they are...

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