| 30 Apr 2008 12:24 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 6  Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 2,893 OFFLINE | Are we forgeting the speed of the Z Fighter’s when they fight and the skill Goku and Co have displayed in hand to hand combat...sorry but Z 4 me
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| 30 Apr 2008 12:25 pm |
Wannabe Rep: 0 Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 78 OFFLINE | Good one man
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| 30 Apr 2008 12:31 pm |
Buster Sword Guest | yea that is true but by the time they think of doing that the DBZ cruw have moved fast anuth to kill them off they move around normaly under 500 times Grav, planet burster’s lol Vegeta at 18 thousand can wipe out earth so the Z fighter’s own them in pure power alone plus they have Brolly he can destroy a galasy in 1 move and dont for get bout Kid buu he solos and the FF weapon’s would do jack to them (Trunk’s sword) shud i keep going
DBZ aren’t Marvel and DC lightspeeders so they aren’t that fast. They move around 10x Earth Gravity, where did you get 500 from? Since when does power of destruction = victory? Don’t you get it, FF don’t need planet busting attacks to win this fight because they won’t exist at all, I was actually being kind with that because Ultimecia wipes them out as she controls TIME and space, so she could easily slow them down to the point of not moving. It doesn’t matter what they can destroy, they ain’t nigh omnipotent, and that is why a lot of fictional characters would stomp them badly.
@ Kyle, that’s like saying Superman can beat Mr Mxy because he’s physcially better than him.
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| 30 Apr 2008 03:11 pm |
Wannabe Rep: 0Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 78 OFFLINE | Buster Sword wrote:
yea that is true but by the time they think of doing that the DBZ cruw have moved fast anuth to kill them off they move around normaly under 500 times Grav, planet burster’s lol Vegeta at 18 thousand can wipe out earth so the Z fighter’s own them in pure power alone plus they have Brolly he can destroy a galasy in 1 move and dont for get bout Kid buu he solos and the FF weapon’s would do jack to them (Trunk’s sword) shud i keep going
DBZ aren’t Marvel and DC lightspeeders so they aren’t that fast. They move around 10x Earth Gravity, where did you get 500 from? Since when does power of destruction = victory? Don’t you get it, FF don’t need planet busting attacks to win this fight because they won’t exist at all, I was actually being kind with that because Ultimecia wipes them out as she controls TIME and space, so she could easily slow them down to the point of not moving. It doesn’t matter what they can destroy, they ain’t nigh omnipotent, and that is why a lot of fictional characters would stomp them badly.
@ Kyle, that’s like saying Superman can beat Mr Mxy because he’s physcially better than him.
Ok One vagiter trans at 500g in the trunks saga and goku can use IT and snap Ultimecia’s neck wayel the overs kill the rest of them
and the can move faster the light in the frazzer saga they do it Burta can move as fast as light and he carnt keep up with Goku
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| 30 Apr 2008 03:19 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 8Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,401 OFFLINE | Yes. Let’s not forget, there is alot of powerful spellcasters. Hell they don’t have to be powerful, some of the protangonist spellcasters have this spell. It’s a lovely ability called stop. No lets use slowaga. Slowaga will make the dbz characters extremly slow and the ff cast could get hastaga, barrier,shell, auto regen, auto life, and even more for their characters.
Sephiroth is NOT the strongest character in FF as said in the last page. He isn’t the weakest, but he defently isn’t the strongest, the strongest in FF7 universe but...
I don’t believe dbz could win and it’s not as if Broly or someone is going to throw a galaxy buster right off. The DBZ crew is not going to have any IDEA what the FF crew can do. Slowaga+Confusion+Darkness+Mini is a bad combination to get used on you. Now if your oppenents have Hastaga+Barrier+Shell+Protect(Standard spells)
In FFIX it is stated by Mikato(Girl Genome) that Kuja destroyed a world by himself. Kuja not only brought an end to Terra but he survived it’s destruction as well.
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| 30 Apr 2008 03:21 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 8Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,401 OFFLINE | The Forbiden One wrote:
Buster Sword wrote:
yea that is true but by the time they think of doing that the DBZ cruw have moved fast anuth to kill them off they move around normaly under 500 times Grav, planet burster’s lol Vegeta at 18 thousand can wipe out earth so the Z fighter’s own them in pure power alone plus they have Brolly he can destroy a galasy in 1 move and dont for get bout Kid buu he solos and the FF weapon’s would do jack to them (Trunk’s sword) shud i keep going
DBZ aren’t Marvel and DC lightspeeders so they aren’t that fast. They move around 10x Earth Gravity, where did you get 500 from? Since when does power of destruction = victory? Don’t you get it, FF don’t need planet busting attacks to win this fight because they won’t exist at all, I was actually being kind with that because Ultimecia wipes them out as she controls TIME and space, so she could easily slow them down to the point of not moving. It doesn’t matter what they can destroy, they ain’t nigh omnipotent, and that is why a lot of fictional characters would stomp them badly.
@ Kyle, that’s like saying Superman can beat Mr Mxy because he’s physcially better than him.
Ok One vagiter trans at 500g in the trunks saga and goku can use IT and snap Ultimecia’s neck wayel the overs kill the rest of them
and the can move faster the light in the frazzer saga they do it Burta can move as fast as light and he carnt keep up with Goku
In the manga it is only 100x gravity if I’m not mistaken, and no lightspeed had been reached by the namek saga. If it had, Goku should have been able to save Vegeta, he would have gotten across the planet almost instantly. Also Goku would not snap someones neck. Mystic Buu should have gotten to Goku and Vegeta before they had time to talk too. Mystic Buu> Namek character’s speeds.
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| 30 Apr 2008 03:26 pm |
Wannabe Rep: 0Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 78 OFFLINE | 1/ Ok there spells carnt keep up with IT it is instent as sune as they start to use there Spell goku would all ready be behand them to blat them
2/ Ok then
3/ So that means that the FF crow wont no about the DBZ crow so they wont have there spell ready to cast
4/ so Gohan SSJ2 can stop and firer a blast strong anuth to wape out the solrsistem in one lets see Kuja stop that one
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| 30 Apr 2008 03:31 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 8Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,401 OFFLINE | The Forbiden One wrote:
1/ Ok there spells carnt keep up with IT it is instent as sune as they start to use there Spell goku would all ready be behand them to blat them
You assume Goku speedblitzes which he doesn’t do.
2/ Ok then
Just thought I would point it out.
3/ So that means that the FF crow wont no about the DBZ crow so they wont have there spell ready to cast
So the same could be applied to the dbz cast then.
4/ so Gohan SSJ2 can stop and firer a blast strong anuth to wape out the solrsistem in one lets see Kuja stop that one
Except you have to prove it was a solar system busting attack, Cell’s statement is hardly enough.
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| 30 Apr 2008 03:34 pm |
Wannabe Rep: 0Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 78 OFFLINE | 1/ i dont get what you mean
2/ i know i was agreying
3/ yes so its how can do there shit faster
4/ wiy would Cell lie
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| 30 Apr 2008 03:41 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 8Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,401 OFFLINE | The Forbiden One wrote:
1/ i dont get what you mean
You think Goku is going to use IT right off and go for the kill. Which he has never done. He only killed Buu in the whole DBZ series and it wasn’t even a speedblitz much less his own power.
2/ i know i was agreying
3/ yes so its how can do there shit faster
The spellcasters would just use spells like that to give them the advantage. Besides it seems spellcasting is near instant, rmember in FF9 when the black mages used fire spells in Lindbulm? They didn’t have to charge. In FF7, crisis core, spells are near instant and the dbz cast isn’t going to to just attack with all their speed, they will probably power up and such.
4/ wiy would Cell lie
Oh I don’t know...To make Gohan feel helpless? To bluff...You know. The fact is unless I there is any evidence to make one believe it is a solar system buster, I can’t say it is one, at least not alone. Cell was probably aiming to destroy the sun which would have caused the end of the solar sysyem.
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| 30 Apr 2008 03:49 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 8Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,401 OFFLINE | Exdeath alone is like at Mr.Mxy level. The only difference is that he can’t be sent to the fifth diminsion for saying he his name backwards. Even if he couldn’t do it, Ultimicia makess fiction become fact and we all know what that means...
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| 30 Apr 2008 03:50 pm |
Buster Sword Guest | Ok One vagiter trans at 500g in the trunks saga and goku can use IT and snap Ultimecia’s neck wayel the overs kill the rest of them
and the can move faster the light in the frazzer saga they do it Burta can move as fast as light and he carnt keep up with Goku
Ultimecia can go intangible.
And no lightspeed.
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| 30 Apr 2008 04:36 pm |
Khalil Guest | Wasn’t Namek only stated to be 2x the size of earth in the anime?
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| 30 Apr 2008 04:38 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 8Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,401 OFFLINE | Khalil wrote:
Wasn’t Namek only stated to be 2x the size of earth in the anime?
No I don’t think so why would it matter anyway?
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| 30 Apr 2008 04:39 pm |
Kal-El of Earth Prime Guest | It is impossible to take out the sun with some little ki blast.
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| 30 Apr 2008 04:41 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 8Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,401 OFFLINE | Kal-El of Earth Prime wrote:
It is impossible to take out the sun with some little ki blast.
Cell’s Kamehameha was far from small, I was just saying, Thats what Cell was probably going to do to take out the Solar system if he even could.
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| 30 Apr 2008 04:44 pm |
Kal-El of Earth Prime Guest | You check out how big the sun is.
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| 30 Apr 2008 04:47 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 8Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,401 OFFLINE | Kal-El of Earth Prime wrote:
You check out how big the sun is.
I didn’t say I was absolutly right that he could do it now did I?
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| 30 Apr 2008 07:30 pm |
guest91 Guest | Kal-El of Earth Prime wrote:
It is impossible to take out the sun with some little ki blast.
to you but that is you and we have to go by DBZ logic and FF logic not our logic
But i believe that z would win because most FF would not be able to survie a direct hit with one ki blast now think about it you know they couldent. And as for shell and barrier that would not do much when your getting hit with a puntch that will fling them through the side of a mountain. Not only that since we are not using FF game mechanics most spells would be able to be easily avoided by z cast extream speed.
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| 30 Apr 2008 08:24 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 8Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 1,401 OFFLINE | guest91 wrote:
Kal-El of Earth Prime wrote:
It is impossible to take out the sun with some little ki blast.
to you but that is you and we have to go by DBZ logic and FF logic not our logic
But i believe that z would win because most FF would not be able to survie a direct hit with one ki blast now think about it you know they couldent. And as for shell and barrier that would not do much when your getting hit with a puntch that will fling them through the side of a mountain. Not only that since we are not using FF game mechanics most spells would be able to be easily avoided by z cast extream speed.
Yeah, because Barrier doesn’t reduce physical damage. Also do you really think Dbz characters could possibly know the spells they are using? Since we are not using FF game mechanics, they will be able to use spells near instaneously(Like in Lindblum with the black mage dolls.)
Do you even relize that spells like Slowaga are not seen? You have to have magic evasivness or protection against it. DBZ character might be fast but they would have no idea of a slowage spell coming their way. Also, Sephiroth could just use his memory manipulation to mess with the other side. He doesn’t have to use it on Vegeta or Goku, he could use it on Krillin or something.
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