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29 Apr 2008 07:24 am
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I got this guy giving me a thumbs down and then say this.
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Is “bald” a hair color?
Is “not collecting stamps” a hobby?
If you no longer believe in Santa Claus, do you call yourself an “Anti-Santa-Clausian?"
Is there some doctrine you follow pursuant with your non-belief in the existence of the tooth fairy?
Atheism is a lack of belief in any god.

Religion is defined as the following -
a)the belief in a supernatural controlling power, esp. in a personal God or gods entitled to obedience and worship.

b)the expression of this in worship.

c)a particular system of faith and worship.

Not to be confused with Atheism which is not a belief in the opposite, but a lack of belief.

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29 Apr 2008 09:24 am
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In a way, it could be considered a type of belief system, because you believe that no gods exist. Doesn’t necessarily make it a religion, however.

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29 Apr 2008 10:20 am
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lmao u do know people are just trying to piss u off?

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29 Apr 2008 10:31 am
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according to your rep you are the most hated person here smiley

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29 Apr 2008 02:12 pm
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I do not see why people hate him so much. He is not disrespectful.

Anyway, I find Atheism more of an ideology than a religion. I find religion just to be the belief in god, not the non-belief.

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29 Apr 2008 08:03 pm
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Tao or Zen...???

it will become a belief...

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TReason wrote: according to your rep you are the most hated person here smiley

Thats because atheist tend to be yea hes right but I dont think he sould talk about it in that way, and theist are hes right but Im going to hate him anyway.

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petrofsky wrote: I do not see why people hate him so much. He is not disrespectful.

Anyway, I find Atheism more of an ideology than a religion. I find religion just to be the belief in god, not the non-belief.

Oh I can be when you act like Itachi.

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Tyreaus wrote: In a way, it could be considered a type of belief system, because you believe that no gods exist. Doesn’t necessarily make it a religion, however.

A disbelief in any god. How the hell can that be considered a belief system. Atheism is the opposite of religion a opposite of a belief, the the lack of one. Do you belief there are pink untageable, invisible unicorns following you and everyone else around, if not that must be class as a belief system too.

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petrofsky wrote: I do not see why people hate him so much. He is not disrespectful.

Anyway, I find Atheism more of an ideology than a religion. I find religion just to be the belief in god, not the non-belief.

It would be closer to ideology then religion, its just the fact that we are not convince that any gods exist.

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30 Apr 2008 03:53 pm
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Gplex wrote:
Tyreaus wrote: In a way, it could be considered a type of belief system, because you believe that no gods exist. Doesn’t necessarily make it a religion, however.

A disbelief in any god. How the hell can that be considered a belief system. Atheism is the opposite of religion a opposite of a belief, the the lack of one. Do you belief there are pink untageable, invisible unicorns following you and everyone else around, if not that must be class as a belief system too.


Could not have said it better.

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TReason wrote: according to your rep you are the most hated person here smiley

Wrong. SanjayNethos is.

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Gplex wrote: I got this guy giving me a thumbs down and then say this.
Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:20:55 EDT:
Online Predator: smiley smiley smiley smiley smiley Atheism = Religion smileysmileysmileysmileysmiley


Is “bald” a hair color?
Is “not collecting stamps” a hobby?
If you no longer believe in Santa Claus, do you call yourself an “Anti-Santa-Clausian?"
Is there some doctrine you follow pursuant with your non-belief in the existence of the tooth fairy?
Atheism is a lack of belief in any god.

Religion is defined as the following -
a)the belief in a supernatural controlling power, esp. in a personal God or gods entitled to obedience and worship.

b)the expression of this in worship.

c)a particular system of faith and worship.

Not to be confused with Atheism which is not a belief in the opposite, but a lack of belief.


Oh but you do believe. You believe that there are no gods. It could be put in the way that you disbelieve in gods, but then again I could put Theism as disbelief that there are no gods now couldn’t I?

Besides, I thought “everyone was Atheist” according to you.

Also, if I can compare any belief to any other belief (God and Santa Claus), I guess that means it’s fair to compare any form of disbelief to any other form of disbelief, such as Atheism and not believing the world is round, because there’s no evidence for either now is there (don’t give me that fall back on your ass bullshit about the burden of proof, because I’ve explained why it’s on a neutral not a convienient atheistic sopolist negative for those such as yourself, there’s no real evidence God doesn’t exist, just like there’s no real evidence the world isn’t round, so I guess it’s fair to compare... well... at least by your logic and respect, or lack of it).

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Sean of the Living wrote:
Gplex wrote: I got this guy giving me a thumbs down and then say this.
Thu, 24 Apr 2008 02:20:55 EDT:
Online Predator: smiley smiley smiley smiley smiley Atheism = Religion smileysmileysmileysmileysmiley


Is “bald” a hair color?
Is “not collecting stamps” a hobby?
If you no longer believe in Santa Claus, do you call yourself an “Anti-Santa-Clausian?"
Is there some doctrine you follow pursuant with your non-belief in the existence of the tooth fairy?
Atheism is a lack of belief in any god.

Religion is defined as the following -
a)the belief in a supernatural controlling power, esp. in a personal God or gods entitled to obedience and worship.

b)the expression of this in worship.

c)a particular system of faith and worship.

Not to be confused with Atheism which is not a belief in the opposite, but a lack of belief.


Oh but you do believe. You believe that there are no gods. It could be put in the way that you disbelieve in gods, but then again I could put Theism as disbelief that there are no gods now couldn’t I?

Besides, I thought “everyone was Atheist” according to you.

Also, if I can compare any belief to any other belief (God and Santa Claus), I guess that means it’s fair to compare any form of disbelief to any other form of disbelief, such as Atheism and not believing the world is round, because there’s no evidence for either now is there (don’t give me that fall back on your ass bullshit about the burden of proof, because I’ve explained why it’s on a neutral not a convienient atheistic sopolist negative for those such as yourself, there’s no real evidence God doesn’t exist, just like there’s no real evidence the world isn’t round, so I guess it’s fair to compare... well... at least by your logic and respect, or lack of it).

No, sean, you are lost in this belief non belief system which people have been trying to mix together for years. If I where to say the world is not round after all the evidence that is produce before me, I would be laught at. But if I was to say there is no evidence that the earth is flat, then I would be making a correct statement.

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01 May 2008 03:10 pm
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I agree with you Gplex, this double-negative stuff is getting very old.
Although now, because of this argument, I simply say that I am agnostic. I am agnostic because there is NO evidence proving the existence of Gaia, nor is there any direct evidence that proves Gaia doesn’t exist. From what we’ve observed in our universe, we have yet to find a need for such a god to exist.

For now, because of the extreme lack of evidence and that we have not even discovered a need for such a “being”, I have decided that there is probably NO Gaia. The same conclusion is also drawn for Zeus, Chronos, Ra/Amen-Ra, etc...

However, because my beliefs are malleable, if suffiecient and convincing evidence is found in the future that a Gaia or a god does exist, then I may become a deist. However, if it known as fact, then it can hardly any longer be considered a belief/faith.

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Any god and every god is 2 diffrent things.

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01 May 2008 10:20 pm
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you diff...

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Gplex wrote:
Tyreaus wrote: In a way, it could be considered a type of belief system, because you believe that no gods exist. Doesn’t necessarily make it a religion, however.

A disbelief in any god. How the hell can that be considered a belief system. Atheism is the opposite of religion a opposite of a belief, the the lack of one. Do you belief there are pink untageable, invisible unicorns following you and everyone else around, if not that must be class as a belief system too.


Like I said, in a way it’s a belief system; a belief that no gods exist. Me believing that there are no pink, untangable invisible unicorns following everyone around also classes a type of belief, as you can believe that such a thing doesn’t exist.
As well, like I said before, it doesn’t necessarily classify it as a religion.

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01 May 2008 11:16 pm
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it still a belief...

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Religion is the belief of a higher power, or a creator. Atheism is against it, the complete opposite. So no, atheism is not religion.

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