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08 May 2008 01:43 am
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we have something in common.
but anyways, i mainly separate myself from “atheists” because of people like gplex taking the idea that im an atheist and using it to further is his pointless attacks on people.

nice talking to you. glad to knwo ur not like gplex.

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Sweeney Todd wrote: Correction. Atheism, as an explicit position, either affirms the nonexistence of gods, or rejects theism.

the21gamer wrote: no it isnt. atheism is denial that God exists. a new born child can’t deny God exists when it doesn’t even know who or what God is.

2 people wanting to re define the word atheism.. great.
Atheism is the absence of belief in deities. I dont have to know every single deitie, to have a absence of belief of that deitie - thats why I said everyone is a atheist.

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the21gamer wrote: we have something in common.
but anyways, i mainly separate myself from “atheists” because of people like gplex taking the idea that im an atheist and using it to further is his pointless attacks on people.

nice talking to you. glad to knwo ur not like gplex.

Quote me.

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08 May 2008 02:56 am
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Khorib wrote: so...?
“I don’t know if God exists, but I believe he does."

Btw, be nice. I haven’t insulted you at all. smiley

Hes not going to care, hes going to make something up or say you are insulting him soon..

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08 May 2008 03:04 am
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Gplex wrote:
Khorib wrote: so...?
“I don’t know if God exists, but I believe he does."

Btw, be nice. I haven’t insulted you at all. smiley

Hes not going to care, hes going to make something up or say you are insulting him soon..


he didnt insult me. wink

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08 May 2008 03:05 am
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Gplex wrote:
Sweeney Todd wrote: Correction. Atheism, as an explicit position, either affirms the nonexistence of gods, or rejects theism.

the21gamer wrote: no it isnt. atheism is denial that God exists. a new born child can’t deny God exists when it doesn’t even know who or what God is.

2 people wanting to re define the word atheism.. great.
Atheism is the absence of belief in deities. I dont have to know every single deitie, to have a absence of belief of that deitie - thats why I said everyone is a atheist.


so ur saying u hate atheists and thats why u spam me?

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08 May 2008 03:06 am
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Gplex wrote:
the21gamer wrote: we have something in common.
but anyways, i mainly separate myself from “atheists” because of people like gplex taking the idea that im an atheist and using it to further is his pointless attacks on people.

nice talking to you. glad to knwo ur not like gplex.

Quote me.

i quoted u.

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08 May 2008 03:08 am
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Gplex wrote:
Sweeney Todd wrote: Correction. Atheism, as an explicit position, either affirms the nonexistence of gods, or rejects theism.

the21gamer wrote: no it isnt. atheism is denial that God exists. a new born child can’t deny God exists when it doesn’t even know who or what God is.

2 people wanting to re define the word atheism.. great.
Atheism is the absence of belief in deities. I dont have to know every single deitie, to have a absence of belief of that deitie - thats why I said everyone is a atheist.


Let’s not get into that debate again here. If need really be, the topic that was intended for it can be used.
Also, using it from a dictionary, it’s defined as “a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings." To classify as an Atheist, you would need to know what a deity is first, by what I can gather.

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the21gamer wrote:
Gplex wrote:
the21gamer wrote: we have something in common.
but anyways, i mainly separate myself from “atheists” because of people like gplex taking the idea that im an atheist and using it to further is his pointless attacks on people.

nice talking to you. glad to knwo ur not like gplex.

Quote me.

i quoted u.

he quoted u

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08 May 2008 03:29 am
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08 May 2008 07:15 am
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the21gamer wrote:
Khorib wrote: No, you are referring to Atheism as an explicit position, which it can be. However, I’m not stretching the definition. When it is broadly defined, atheism is the absence of belief in deities, alternatively called nontheism.


no, it IS an explicit position. that is why it is called atheism.
by your stretched definition i would be labeled an athiest but i have nothing in common with atheism nor do i have anything in common religion.

really, there is no label i can think of yet for people like me that dont go either way except not having a position on whether or not God exists.

if atheism was not a position then atheists wouldn’t be on this religion section fighting with religious people.

i know u have no counter for that bolded part. it’s fact. no position would mean no arguing about the existence of God.


Here is a counter; no one ever denied that. So essentially, the bolded part which you thought was invincible (and is the exact reason why it) is a strawman.

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ramunematt wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
Khorib wrote: No, you are referring to Atheism as an explicit position, which it can be. However, I’m not stretching the definition. When it is broadly defined, atheism is the absence of belief in deities, alternatively called nontheism.


no, it IS an explicit position. that is why it is called atheism.
by your stretched definition i would be labeled an athiest but i have nothing in common with atheism nor do i have anything in common religion.

really, there is no label i can think of yet for people like me that dont go either way except not having a position on whether or not God exists.

if atheism was not a position then atheists wouldn’t be on this religion section fighting with religious people.

i know u have no counter for that bolded part. it’s fact. no position would mean no arguing about the existence of God.


Here is a counter; no one ever denied that. So essentially, the bolded part which you thought was invincible (and is the exact reason why it) is a strawman.


Its not a strawman because it was brought up to show a contradiction. So essentially you pulled a strawman.

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08 May 2008 04:04 pm
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News flash, nearly EVERYTHING is a position, so what’s all this talk about a contradiction? That is why I called your argument a straw man.

Second, I didn’t pull a strawman because my statement was true that no one ever denied atheism being a position, which you were trying to argue against.

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ramunematt wrote: News flash, nearly EVERYTHING is a position, so what’s all this talk about a contradiction? That is why I called your argument a straw man.

Second, I didn’t pull a strawman because my statement was true that no one ever denied atheism being a position, which you were trying to argue against.


It was originally because I was saying that “atheism” as a defined term, isn’t explicitly a taken position

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08 May 2008 04:41 pm
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ramunematt wrote: News flash, nearly EVERYTHING is a position, so what’s all this talk about a contradiction? That is why I called your argument a straw man.

Second, I didn’t pull a strawman because my statement was true that no one ever denied atheism being a position, which you were trying to argue against.


He pointed out a contradiction.

Second, your statement was wrong because it was pointing out a contradiction, not saying that what he said, only that there seemed to be a contradiction. News flash! That’s not a strawman, just pointing something out.

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08 May 2008 07:54 pm
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Sweeney Todd wrote:
the21gamer wrote:
Gplex wrote:
RageOverdose wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote: Your saying atheism is a belief. That’s like saying lacking hair is still having hair, or that lacking a hobby is still a hobby. What you’ve just said is, “a lack of X is still X”. Atheism is lack of belief, not belief. Get over it.
— — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — — —
xx=x2 right...???

now x = x

right...???

atheism=a belief or system that there are/is no god(s)...
like zen or tao...


-X does not equal +X you dumbass.


x = x

unsigned x = signed x;


No.

x =/= -x

Now:

x = |-x|

Which leads to this:

If you want to get technical, atheism really is a belief. In disbelief, you hold a belief. You reject the belief of gods, but believe that gods do not exist. Similarly, theists reject the belief that gods don’t exist, but believe that gods exist.

If a child is born he does not know anything about any god, this is a non belief, a non belief, and a disbelief is classed under atheism.


no it isnt. atheism is denial that God exists. a new born child can’t deny God exists when it doesn’t even know who or what God is.



Correction. Atheism, as an explicit position, either affirms the nonexistence of gods, or rejects theism.


unsigned int x;

which mean only using +x.....

signed int x;
which mean using -x +x

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Tyreaus wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Sweeney Todd wrote: Correction. Atheism, as an explicit position, either affirms the nonexistence of gods, or rejects theism.

the21gamer wrote: no it isnt. atheism is denial that God exists. a new born child can’t deny God exists when it doesn’t even know who or what God is.

2 people wanting to re define the word atheism.. great.
Atheism is the absence of belief in deities. I dont have to know every single deitie, to have a absence of belief of that deitie - thats why I said everyone is a atheist.


Let’s not get into that debate again here. If need really be, the topic that was intended for it can be used.
Also, using it from a dictionary, it’s defined as “a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings." To classify as an Atheist, you would need to know what a deity is first, by what I can gather.

This bs started with 1 religious person not liking atheist, and change the meaning to that, and now we are stuck with it, hypochristianity at its fineist.

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the21gamer wrote:
Gplex wrote:
Sweeney Todd wrote: Correction. Atheism, as an explicit position, either affirms the nonexistence of gods, or rejects theism.

the21gamer wrote: no it isnt. atheism is denial that God exists. a new born child can’t deny God exists when it doesn’t even know who or what God is.

2 people wanting to re define the word atheism.. great.
Atheism is the absence of belief in deities. I dont have to know every single deitie, to have a absence of belief of that deitie - thats why I said everyone is a atheist.


so ur saying u hate atheists and thats why u spam me?

the21gamer wrote:
Gplex wrote:
the21gamer wrote: we have something in common.
but anyways, i mainly separate myself from “atheists” because of people like gplex taking the idea that im an atheist and using it to further is his pointless attacks on people.

nice talking to you. glad to knwo ur not like gplex.

Quote me.

i quoted u.

childlike behavior.

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Who was this 'religous person' you speak of?

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