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[Quote] #61
14 May 2008 08:13 pm
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petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote: Islam did eveything including morals... in Islam killing people even its an accident is not allowed... you must pay some money for the familiy you killed...


All religions have some kind of set up morality system. Law does the same. That is so society can be kept in order and without and violence or corruption.

Imagine we are in the wild. There is no law, homes, etc. We are just like apes. You need fire to cook, but do not know, nor do you know where to get besides another human. No other human will let you take their fire. What do you have to do to survive? You need to steal the fire. Survival of the fittest is the name of the game. (that also is the game of evolution)


Hmmm... You previously said that there should be no law...??? contradiction...???

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14 May 2008 08:15 pm
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Itachi Uchiha wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote: Islam did eveything including morals... in Islam killing people even its an accident is not allowed... you must pay some money for the familiy you killed...


All religions have some kind of set up morality system. Law does the same. That is so society can be kept in order and without and violence or corruption.

Imagine we are in the wild. There is no law, homes, etc. We are just like apes. You need fire to cook, but do not know, nor do you know where to get besides another human. No other human will let you take their fire. What do you have to do to survive? You need to steal the fire. Survival of the fittest is the name of the game. (that also is the game of evolution)


Hmmm... You previously said that there should be no law...??? contradiction...???


When did I ever say there should be no law? I only remember saying that law helps construct our morals.

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14 May 2008 08:19 pm
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shocked

You previously said so...

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14 May 2008 08:21 pm
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Why are so scared itachi?

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14 May 2008 08:23 pm
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Itachi Uchiha wrote: shocked

You previously said so...


Where? I honestly do not remember.

I think law is a beautiful thing. It helps us stay in order and cooperate to benefit to each others needs in a peaceful way.

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14 May 2008 08:25 pm
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Religion does not equal laws

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14 May 2008 08:26 pm
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In ways it does. Just religion has no immediate consequence. In religion they tell you that you will go to hell.

In law, they would send you to jail immeadiately.

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14 May 2008 08:59 pm
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petrofsky wrote: In ways it does. Just religion has no immediate consequence. In religion they tell you that you will go to hell.

In law, they would send you to jail immeadiately.

But they also let you out. Like purgatory.

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14 May 2008 09:00 pm
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ChaosSpartan wrote:
petrofsky wrote: In ways it does. Just religion has no immediate consequence. In religion they tell you that you will go to hell.

In law, they would send you to jail immeadiately.

But they also let you out. Like purgatory.


Yes, but in religion, that is after you die, which is a long way away. With law, it is instantaneous.

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14 May 2008 09:05 pm
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I get the whole no god thing but whered the initial energy come from?

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14 May 2008 09:09 pm
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1indainfinite wrote: I get the whole no god thing but whered the initial energy come from?

It could be it was always there. Energy CANNOT be created or destroyed remember.

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14 May 2008 09:12 pm
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
1indainfinite wrote: I get the whole no god thing but whered the initial energy come from?

It could be it was always there. Energy CANNOT be created or destroyed remember.

OYG he’s a celestial!

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14 May 2008 09:14 pm
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petrofsky wrote:
ChaosSpartan wrote:
petrofsky wrote: In ways it does. Just religion has no immediate consequence. In religion they tell you that you will go to hell.

In law, they would send you to jail immeadiately.

But they also let you out. Like purgatory.


Yes, but in religion, that is after you die, which is a long way away. With law, it is instantaneous.

Well, when they catch you, but not unless you have an awesome lawyer.

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14 May 2008 09:17 pm
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ChaosSpartan wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
ChaosSpartan wrote:
petrofsky wrote: In ways it does. Just religion has no immediate consequence. In religion they tell you that you will go to hell.

In law, they would send you to jail immeadiately.

But they also let you out. Like purgatory.


Yes, but in religion, that is after you die, which is a long way away. With law, it is instantaneous.

Well, when they catch you, but not unless you have an awesome lawyer.

Who is your lawyer

Well it’s Jesus of course he’s one hell of a Jew you know

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14 May 2008 09:18 pm
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ChaosSpartan wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
ChaosSpartan wrote:
petrofsky wrote: In ways it does. Just religion has no immediate consequence. In religion they tell you that you will go to hell.

In law, they would send you to jail immeadiately.

But they also let you out. Like purgatory.


Yes, but in religion, that is after you die, which is a long way away. With law, it is instantaneous.

Well, when they catch you, but not unless you have an awesome lawyer.


Lol, very true

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14 May 2008 09:18 pm
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Itachi Uchiha wrote:
ramunematt wrote: A universe with god will have evil in it anyway. The concept of evil can’t exist without the concept of good. No matter how omnipotent you say your god is, there is no way to eradicate all evil from this universe because unitary and binary opposites exist.


God = Good
Evil = no Good

If God = Good then
Evil = No Good

which mean Evil = No God

Heat <> Cold
Cold = No Heat

Dark = No Light

We represent Dark as No light...

get it yet scientist brainless...???

Why there is evil since the evil says no good(good = God)...


Holy crap your stupid. Let me put this in a way your small mind might be able to comprehend.

God = Good
Evil = no Good

If God = Good then
Evil = No Good


But what is good?

Heat <> Cold
Cold = No Heat


But what is heat?

Dark = No Light

We represent Dark as No light...


But then what do you represent light as? Anyway, I think you get my point. Try to defend one absolute opposite and you will need the other one. Light is the absence of darkness, and darkness is the absence of light.

If evil did not exist, how could one possibly know what good was? If all we had was good, would you know that it was good? No, you wouldn’t. If you were dwelling on the Sun for your entire life, you would never know what light is due to the absence of darkness. Light is meaningless without dark, as is good is meaningless without evil. Understand?

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14 May 2008 09:22 pm
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14 May 2008 09:24 pm
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I’m tired of the religious folk here being so stupid. Its embarassing.

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15 May 2008 12:59 am
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1indainfinite wrote:
ChaosSpartan wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
ChaosSpartan wrote:
petrofsky wrote: In ways it does. Just religion has no immediate consequence. In religion they tell you that you will go to hell.

In law, they would send you to jail immeadiately.

But they also let you out. Like purgatory.


Yes, but in religion, that is after you die, which is a long way away. With law, it is instantaneous.

Well, when they catch you, but not unless you have an awesome lawyer.

Who is your lawyer

Well it’s Jesus of course he’s one hell of a Jew you know


lol wow thats a good one never would have thought of that one myself

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15 May 2008 01:19 am
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guest 91 wrote:
1indainfinite wrote:
ChaosSpartan wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
ChaosSpartan wrote:
petrofsky wrote: In ways it does. Just religion has no immediate consequence. In religion they tell you that you will go to hell.

In law, they would send you to jail immeadiately.

But they also let you out. Like purgatory.


Yes, but in religion, that is after you die, which is a long way away. With law, it is instantaneous.

Well, when they catch you, but not unless you have an awesome lawyer.

Who is your lawyer

Well it’s Jesus of course he’s one hell of a Jew you know


lol wow thats a good one never would have thought of that one myself

Can your lawyer walk on water I don’t think so

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