| 19 May 2008 02:32 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50  Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,520 OFFLINE | ramunematt wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
A universe with god will have evil in it anyway. The concept of evil can’t exist without the concept of good. No matter how omnipotent you say your god is, there is no way to eradicate all evil from this universe because unitary and binary opposites exist.
God = Good
Evil = no Good
If God = Good then
Evil = No Good
which mean Evil = No God
Heat <> Cold
Cold = No Heat
Dark = No Light
We represent Dark as No light...
get it yet scientist brainless...???
Why there is evil since the evil says no good(good = God)...
Holy crap your stupid. Let me put this in a way your small mind might be able to comprehend.
God = Good
Evil = no Good
If God = Good then
Evil = No Good
But what is good?
Heat <> Cold
Cold = No Heat
But what is heat?
Dark = No Light
We represent Dark as No light...
But then what do you represent light as? Anyway, I think you get my point. Try to defend one absolute opposite and you will need the other one. Light is the absence of darkness, and darkness is the absence of light.
If evil did not exist, how could one possibly know what good was? If all we had was good, would you know that it was good? No, you wouldn’t. If you were dwelling on the Sun for your entire life, you would never know what light is due to the absence of darkness. Light is meaningless without dark, as is good is meaningless without evil. Understand?
Your sciences mind cant reach that level...???
 
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| 19 May 2008 12:19 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 28 Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 1,432 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
A universe with god will have evil in it anyway. The concept of evil can’t exist without the concept of good. No matter how omnipotent you say your god is, there is no way to eradicate all evil from this universe because unitary and binary opposites exist.
God = Good
Evil = no Good
If God = Good then
Evil = No Good
which mean Evil = No God
Heat <> Cold
Cold = No Heat
Dark = No Light
We represent Dark as No light...
get it yet scientist brainless...???
Why there is evil since the evil says no good(good = God)...
If you want to use that logic, then this is how it should go...
Good cannot exist without Evil
Evil cannot exist without Good
If God = Good, and evil still exists
Then if no God exists, it means No Good exists, and therefore no Evil exists.
The Good/Evil exchange is like:
Beauty/Ugly
Big/Small
Light/Dark
Order/Chaos
Hot/Cold
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| 19 May 2008 08:06 pm |
Banned Rep: 51 Joined: 07 Jul 2006 Posts: 14,808 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
ramunematt wrote:
A universe with god will have evil in it anyway. The concept of evil can’t exist without the concept of good. No matter how omnipotent you say your god is, there is no way to eradicate all evil from this universe because unitary and binary opposites exist.
God = Good
Evil = no Good
If God = Good then
Evil = No Good
which mean Evil = No God
Heat <> Cold
Cold = No Heat
Dark = No Light
We represent Dark as No light...
get it yet scientist brainless...???
Why there is evil since the evil says no good(good = God)...
Holy crap your stupid. Let me put this in a way your small mind might be able to comprehend.
God = Good
Evil = no Good
If God = Good then
Evil = No Good
But what is good?
Heat <> Cold
Cold = No Heat
But what is heat?
Dark = No Light
We represent Dark as No light...
But then what do you represent light as? Anyway, I think you get my point. Try to defend one absolute opposite and you will need the other one. Light is the absence of darkness, and darkness is the absence of light.
If evil did not exist, how could one possibly know what good was? If all we had was good, would you know that it was good? No, you wouldn’t. If you were dwelling on the Sun for your entire life, you would never know what light is due to the absence of darkness. Light is meaningless without dark, as is good is meaningless without evil. Understand?
Your sciences mind cant reach that level...???
It’s called logic. Use it sometime.
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| 21 May 2008 08:22 pm |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,520 OFFLINE | Yes and you cant used it very well... ---
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| 21 May 2008 08:49 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63 Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | Itachi Uchiha wrote:
Yes and you cant used it very well...
Actually, Matt has you on this one. You cannot have one absolute without the other.
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| 22 May 2008 02:26 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 25 Joined: 26 Dec 2007 Posts: 2,034 OFFLINE | petrofsky wrote:
In ways it does. Just religion has no immediate consequence. In religion they tell you that you will go to hell.
In law, they would send you to jail immeadiately.
Ha, yes, but the law can fail in detecting crime. If God existed, you wouldn’t be able to decieve him. Also, I’d rather go to jail than Hell or Purgatory (the reality of either doesn’t matter here, it is the fear of the punishment that prevents the crime).
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| 24 May 2008 12:58 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,520 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote:
Yes and you cant used it very well...
Actually, Matt has you on this one. You cannot have one absolute without the other.
i have bad english so... i cant explain it very well...
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| 24 May 2008 01:03 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,520 OFFLINE | ---
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| 24 May 2008 01:10 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,520 OFFLINE | ---
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| 24 May 2008 01:12 am |
In the infinite Rep: 40 Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 10,817 OFFLINE | Are those supposed to be beyond comprehension? ---
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| 24 May 2008 01:12 am |
The Mangekyou Sharingan Rep: 50Joined: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 10,520 OFFLINE | that is our uinverse... ---
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| 26 May 2008 12:21 am |
antony2som Guest | Humans will allways keep their dilusional minds on a god that never was and never will be a fact, because it never existed! When will these stupid humans will come to believe such a thing? Wake up dilusional people!! | |
| 30 May 2008 08:09 pm |
strong Guest | How could you disprove God anyway? There can never be evidence against an omnipotent God because it is entirely possible that it would have been created by God. There is evidence for God anyway, causality for example; everything has a cause. Every single effect can be traced back to the creation of the universe. However there has to be a start to causality, even if the creation isn’t the start. Only reasonable answer = God | |
| 30 May 2008 09:54 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | strong wrote:
How could you disprove God anyway? There can never be evidence against an omnipotent God because it is entirely possible that it would have been created by God. There is evidence for God anyway, causality for example; everything has a cause. Every single effect can be traced back to the creation of the universe. However there has to be a start to causality, even if the creation isn’t the start. Only reasonable answer = God
WRONG. You got your arguments from some christian whackjob didn’t you?
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| 30 May 2008 09:56 pm |
strong Guest | refute it then. Show me some proof instead of claiming its wrong.
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| 30 May 2008 09:59 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | strong wrote:
refute it then. Show me some proof instead of claiming its wrong.
Twat.
If everything has a cause, then God had a cause to...Either way, Unless God is made of energy or matter he does not exist. If he is made of energy or matter he is bound by physical laws, thus making miracles and stuff in the bible impossible.
But lets say your right. Let’s say God is the cause. Which God is it? What if it is a magical hamster in another universe. Can you deny that possibility? It’s just as likely as anything else.
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| 30 May 2008 10:01 pm |
In the infinite Rep: 40Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 10,817 OFFLINE | I thougt strong was smart I’m proven wrong. ---
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| 30 May 2008 10:04 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | 1indainfinite wrote:
I thougt strong was smart I’m proven wrong.
And you know whats really crazy? There is no winning against a theist. They are to damn stubborn.
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| 30 May 2008 10:07 pm |
In the infinite Rep: 40Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 10,817 OFFLINE | As 15 year old with a smart mouth I have to say one thing (and I’m a non believer I won’t say athiest) well a question where did the energy from the big bang came from?
My friend hace a theory want to hear it or give your own answer. ---
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| 30 May 2008 10:08 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | 1indainfinite wrote:
As 15 year old with a smart mouth I have to say one thing (and I’m a non believer I won’t say athiest) well a question where did the energy from the big bang came from?
My friend hace a theory want to hear it or give your own answer.
It was always there. Energy cannot be created(to bad for god huh?) or destroyed.
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