Weiss The Immaculate vs Cloud Strife

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Didn’t Cloud say “You’re the only one who can stop him now." or something in that effect?

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Even Base Weiss is a Challenge he beat Azul and Rosso like nothing while FFVII was going on...

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I’d be less surprised if Weiss were to beat Cloud than vice versa. Because if you remember, in DoC, Rosso apparently fights with Cloud during the ending of a cutscene but yet when you fight her in the ShinRa building, she seems to be of sound health, not that weak at all. Yet moments and Weiss is capable of defeating three of her at once, as well as taking care of Azul the Cerulean in his post-transformation state all within the same brief time frame.

All I’m saying is that if Cloud can’t even kill Rosso the Crimson, then I doubt he can handle even Base Weiss.

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@ Chibi: I don’t remember him saying that.

@ Kyle: Azul is.....

@ Mori: Cloud beat Rosso.

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Apparently he didn’t do that great of a job beating her, otherwise Rosso wouldn’t have been able to be persistently annoying before committing suicide.

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You actually don’t know how badly he beat her because they fought in the morning and she came to Vincent at night, which is plenty of time.

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Anyone could see Weiss was stronger than Cloud in DoC Knight made a gd point, in FFVII he could already aniallate 3 Rosso and Azul transformed in his base state...that’s all that need’s to be said when compareing DoC Cloud to OMEGA Weiss lol

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And in VII, Cloud beat Sephiroth, your point?

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I think the point is Cloud actually couldent have beat Sephiroth in a seriouse sence of the word were as Weiss pretty much owned his combatent’s pre FFVII while at the time Cloud needed his whole team to defeat Sephiroth...

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That just shows you how strong Sephiroth is, remember they also needed materia. I don’t think VII Cloud has a chance against VII Sephiroth though.

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I know i don’t get it either if Sephiroth in AC is said to be the strongest incarnation of Sephiroth then the gap between Cloud and Sephiroth diden’t really move that much even if Cloud had become a great deal stronger in AC...

Well yea i do agree Sephiroth FFVII was a force to be rekoned with it took all 8 to defeat him at their best with Materia,

And that’s why Base Weiss is so impressive (even before Omega came into the picture) he destroyed 3 of Rosso when the strongest Cloud (DoC) faced what...1 and also wiped the floor with Arch Azul without breaking so much as a sweat while FFVII was takeing place, thus showing the gap between himself and the other FF Cast at that currant time (and remember he tottaly owned them both, while i also note Rosso was still able to go toe to toe with Vincent after fighting Cloud showing she was fighting fit not at all harmed from her preiviouse battle).

She even was shown to have been their awhile slaying WRO troop’s so Cloud may have beat her but apparently he dident own her completely like Weiss did 3yr’s prior those event’s, but im a fair guy i don’t think Cloud would be killed in an instant i just don’t see him toppleing Weiss who also has him in ability’s and not just raw power.

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Absolutely biased completely there.
You said Cloud did nothing to her when there is daylight between the fight, did he not fight her in daylight? When did she come after Vincent, was it when there was no daylight. Giving her plenty of time to heal, was it not that in AC, Cloud got his ass handed to him by Sephiroth, only to get up a few seconds later? What you are trying to say fails because of the massive time diffrence. I would love to see Weiss fight Sephiroth in VII, remember it took the whole team plus materia to take him down, yes, that’s how strong he was and Cloud beat him. Good night.

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No sir not baised just their is room for doubt in this scinario because we don’t truely know what happened when Cloud fought Rosso, a good point is when she is beaten by Vincent she say’s and i quote “Someone..someone..stronger than”... interpriting she was in disbelife that there was another more powerful than herself outside of DG...she even say’s “ABSURD”! witch is something she would not be saying if Cloud had INDEED just wooped her ass royaly.

What im saying dousent fail it’s marely another point of veiw witch can’t be reffuted because statement’s do deffend it quight well actually...their is evidence Cloud dident own her and then their is a lack of evidence on the battle itself so draw your own conclushion’s as long as their logical that is.

I also would love Weiss V Sephiroth at the time of FFVII good fight actually...Dude Cloud AND his team beat him get it right WITH materia, Cloud was like an 8thof Sephiroth’s true strenth in FFVII.

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Yes it is, there is daylight between the fight and you completely ignore it dude, you are basically saying Cloud didn’t affect her even though she was beaten. And so what if she said that to Vincent? Your point? You still ignore the fact that she had plenty of time to go on the mend.

Again you miss the time inbetween, you still haven’t countered this.

I’d still say Sephiroth, I mean come on, yeah beatin Rosso and Azul is one thing, but taking on Avalanche is something different.

Yet Avalanche didn’t destroy him, Cloud did. And you are saying Cloud is 1/8 of his strenght? Er avalanche members aren’t equals.

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Don’t worry ill get back to this...but for now IM LATE IM LATE FOR A VERY IMPORTANT DATE...gotta go chou^.-