Kyle Knight wrote:
1. But it is relavent because Weiss dident use that Tech did he nope he stayed still in the same spot parrying their attack’s like nothing Cloud however is described as fighting Russo of Feircely witch mean’s he gave alot of effort.
The relavence of all this is we don’t know how the battle went down only that Cloud fought Russo of feircely, important note’s are we dont see her use her best form or Cloud’s Limit Break’s but that dousent mean they wernt used meaning they were about equal but Cloud was better haveing fought her of.
Vincent beating Russo in base isnt a shot at Cloud’s skill as Vincent is just as good as Cloud bar the Omnislash tech
2. Ohh Good
3. Yes and that’s called a Charicter Defect Sephiroth is Arrogant so it’s his weakness that allow’s other’s considerably weaker to beat him and Weiss being considerably better than Cloud DoC could beat Sephiroth
1. He did use the same tech. See all of the video before posting.
What kind of an idiotic fighter would use his/her best form/attack to start with if he/she does not know other’s powers to begin with?
Besides, it was only one attack against each other. And Cloud easily blocked Rosso’s surprise attack. They are not equal in any way.
Base Vincent is clearly weaker than Cloud. Check the AC vids. Only thing that makes him stronger than Cloud is Chaos, which he did not use during his fight against Rosso.
3. Again, you have not proven how Base Weiss is stronger than Cloud.
Power-wise, Sephiroth can pretty much own Base Weiss. Weiss with power of Omega, is a different story.
1. I have watched all of the Video Weiss remain’s as one Russo become’s 3 counter part’s and he fend’s off all of her and Azul’s attack’s with one arm without trying, Cloud DoC however douse try hence “fighting her off Feircely” so Weiss is better than a stronger Cloud than the one in AC.
Also she seem’s rather relaxed and happy without so much as a scrach come the fight with Vincent, now this is relivant because when the Restrictor beat’s Russo effortlessly she become’s enraged and cannot handle it likewise when Vincent won she would rather take her own life than be defeated by anyone.
So Base Weiss>Restrictor>Cloud>Russo
So do you see now Cloud could beat Sephiroth one year prior DoC nevermind current day, however Restrictor Could pwn Russo and Cloud and Base Weiss can beat the Restrictor
2. Vincent beating Russo kinda show’s he is on par with Cloud as both had to try in orde to win and that’s debateing weather she used her best form or not?
1. Get your eyes checked. Weiss uses the same tech.
Again, 'fighting off fiercely' means just guarding from her surprise attack. Cloud had no incentive to fight her to death.
Rosso is not a robot. Her reactions can differ from situation to situation.
Cloud only beat Sephiroth because Sephiroth let his guard down. Power-wise, Sephiroth can kill Cloud without any effort.
Restrictor can only pwn Rosso because of the chip. He himself is not that immensely powerful. And Weiss only defeated Restrictor because the player helped along with other Tsviets.
2. How do you Cloud won against Rosso 'trying' when you did not even see the full battle?
Vincent did not break a sweat during Rosso fight. Notice how after the cutscenes he does not breathe exhaustedly like Rosso.
Rosso (Bloodburst) used her best form against Vincent. She still got pwned by Vincent base form.
1. Weiss dident split into 3 he stayed positioned in the centre and was attacke from all angle’s yet he won without even trying.
Cloud did have Incentive as Russo fight’s to kill and only feel’s alive when bathing in the blood of her enemy, so Cloud had to try to stay alive, Fighting her of Feircely imply’s effort to see her away.
Cloud fought well against Sephiroth none the Less and was beaten by Omnislash witch moved to fast for him to avoid yet who move’s faster...ohh yea Weiss
Restrictor was seen beating Russo fair and square, and the Restrictor knew Weiss would beat him Weiss even ask’s if he can have a handicap against him as he is sure he can beat him.
It’s all in the UO you should read it as it explain’s about Cloud vs Russo and such
3. That just make’s Vincent look even better than Cloud if she wasnt tired from fighting him yet she is panting from fighting Vincent who isnt bothered in the least
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
It’s already been stated that there is noone above Sephiroth in the FF7 universe, so Wiess loses by defualt.
Urm hello Cloud beat Sephiroth hence he can lose to nearly anybody due to arrogance lol
This is a hypothetical battle, we assume he is using all of his abilities to optimum level, and that is above everyone in the FF7 universe.
I’m not sure about that. :/
I think Omega Weiss is stronger than Sephiroth.
No. It has been stated that Sephiroth is above everyone. Not neccisarily in every catagory but he is above everyone overall.
erm that’s horse shit Cloud’s Omni-Slash was to fast for Sephiroth to avoid and Weiss is faster than that
It’s the creator’s words over yours. Guess who loses that argument?
No because it’s your word unless the creator’s come out and say “hey Sephiroth would beat everyone in FFVII” your implying power equal’s everything in FFVII when as seen by Cloud it dousent equal a win mate
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your PRETTY sure come back with proof stateing he was of Guard whn Cloud Omnislash V5’s his ass, as anyone could see Sephiroth was clearly stareing at cloud when he started the manouvere and Cloud broke his limit wow cmon dude if Sephiroth was > Everyone he could avoid the move.
And Weiss is faster than Cloud lol
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Kyle Knight wrote:
your PRETTY sure come back with proof stateing he was of Guard whn Cloud Omnislash V5’s his ass, as anyone could see Sephiroth was clearly stareing at cloud when he started the manouvere and Cloud broke his limit wow cmon dude if Sephiroth was > Everyone he could avoid the move.
And Weiss is faster than Cloud lol
I never said Sephiroth> in all catagorys. I said overall. If he would have used all his abilities he would have beat Cloud. Weiss MAY be faster than the omnislash but we really can’t say. Honestly Omnislash v5 hitting him was PIS.
Problem we have no idea what these ability’s even are so AC is our best bet of what we know about him and Pysicaly Weiss beat’s him speed strenth and Endurance wise
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Kyle Knight wrote:
1. Weiss dident split into 3 he stayed positioned in the centre and was attacke from all angle’s yet he won without even trying.
Cloud did have Incentive as Russo fight’s to kill and only feel’s alive when bathing in the blood of her enemy, so Cloud had to try to stay alive, Fighting her of Feircely imply’s effort to see her away.
Cloud fought well against Sephiroth none the Less and was beaten by Omnislash witch moved to fast for him to avoid yet who move’s faster...ohh yea Weiss
Restrictor was seen beating Russo fair and square, and the Restrictor knew Weiss would beat him Weiss even ask’s if he can have a handicap against him as he is sure he can beat him.
It’s all in the UO you should read it as it explain’s about Cloud vs Russo and such
3. That just make’s Vincent look even better than Cloud if she wasnt tired from fighting him yet she is panting from fighting Vincent who isnt bothered in the least
1. No, seriously. Get your eyes checked. I insist. Or play the vid in slow-mo. He clearly separates into three like Rosso.
Cloud does not know Rosso’s bloodthirsty personality or characteristics. Therefore, he has no incentive but to guard himself against the attack and carry on with his task to do away with the reactor.
Sephiroth nearly killed Cloud. He got caught off-guard because he was busy bragging. This is not a factor in this fight.
Restrictor did not beat Rosso fair and square. She had chips implanted in her brain, which controlled her actions. Same for Azul.
Give me a scan as a proof for UO. Even so, 'fighting fiercely' is nothing but fending off Rosso’s attack. Besides, we have not seen the full fight anyways. (But I doubt they did since Rosso and Cloud seem perfectly fine after that cutscene)
3. That’s because Cloud and Rosso did not fight to start with. They only had single strike against each other, as shown in the cutscene. UO’s 'fighting fiercely' can be interpreted in numerous ways. It’s more than likely that they lost track of each other in the battlefield.
And Cloud doesn’t seem bothered at all in the cutscene after that scene.
Well it’s actually
Base Sephiroth > Base Weiss
Omega Weiss > VII Sephiroth
AC Sephiroth > Omega Weiss.
. In the UO it state’s they have a feirce battle now in DoC Cloud’s at his best and in AC he beat Sephiroth correct?, now 3yrs prior Weiss beat Russo and Azul without effort makeing him> Cloud you see now that is Base Weiss and DoC Cloud>AC Sephiroth not Base Sephiroth
WRONG WRONG WRONG.
AC Sephiroth > Anything.
3. Cloud only beat Sephiroth because Sephiroth let his guard down by being cocky. If Sephiroth finished Cloud downright after stabbing him in the chest, Sephy would’ve easily won without breaking a sweat.
The element of surprise is a better way of explaining that. No this is where you’re wrong, Sephiroth tries against Cloud in terms of physical battling, and the sweat thing, that’s actually misinterpreted hyperbole, Sephiroth doesn’t sweat PERIOD.
UO? What the hell is that? Never heard of it.
Cloud>>>Rosso
Just because Cloud didn’t pwn Rosso in the first strike does not mean he is equal to her. If Vincent can kill her with almost no effort in human form, so can Cloud.
Ultimania Omega.
Yeah Cloud beat her, pretty badly, it’s even quoted. Cloud > Base Vincent I agree.
Besides, it was only one attack against each other. And Cloud easily blocked Rosso’s surprise attack. They are not equal in any way.
Base Vincent is clearly weaker than Cloud. Check the AC vids. Only thing that makes him stronger than Cloud is Chaos, which he did not use during his fight against Rosso.
3. Again, you have not proven how Base Weiss is stronger than Cloud.
Power-wise, Sephiroth can pretty much own Base Weiss. Weiss with power of Omega, is a different story.
Yes Cloud is >>> Rosso.
Yes Chaos > Cloud > Vincent
Cloud > Base Weiss as this is also correct.
AC Sephiroth would destroy Base Weiss or Omega.
When did the creator say that? I know he did, but when?
I’ll show you the quote later.
So Base Weiss>Restrictor>Cloud>Russo
Bollocks.
So do you see now Cloud could beat Sephiroth one year prior DoC nevermind current day, however Restrictor Could pwn Russo and Cloud and Base Weiss can beat the Restrictor
2. Vincent beating Russo kinda show’s he is on par with Cloud as both had to try in orde to win and that’s debateing weather she used her best form or not?
Last time I check Weiss doesn’t possess omnislash.
No it isn’t, beating Sephiroth is WAY WAY more of an impressive feat than beating ANY OTHER character in VII.
Urm hello Cloud beat Sephiroth hence he can lose to nearly anybody due to arrogance lol
That’s only with Cloud, and hypothetically he destroys them all.
Cloud only beat Sephiroth because Sephiroth let his guard down. Power-wise, Sephiroth can kill Cloud without any effort.
Physically no, spriritually yes.
2. How do you Cloud won against Rosso 'trying' when you did not even see the full battle?
Vincent did not break a sweat during Rosso fight. Notice how after the cutscenes he does not breathe exhaustedly like Rosso.
Rosso (Bloodburst) used her best form against Vincent. She still got pwned by Vincent base form.
Yes.
No. It has been stated that Sephiroth is above everyone. Not neccisarily in every catagory but he is above everyone overall.
Well 'nothing above him' pretty much makes it clear, the only difference is the abilites, Sephiroth doesn’t possess everyones abilities, but his are better than everyones else.
Cloud did have Incentive as Russo fight’s to kill and only feel’s alive when bathing in the blood of her enemy, so Cloud had to try to stay alive, Fighting her of Feircely imply’s effort to see her away.
Lol you’re talking as if he’s fighting Sephiroth. If Cloud only just beat her, why didn’t she go back to try and destroy Cloud? Maybe because he gae her a beating she’ll never forget.
Cloud fought well against Sephiroth none the Less and was beaten by Omnislash witch moved to fast for him to avoid yet who move’s faster...ohh yea Weiss
Bull shit, if Sephiroth is the best and he couldn’t avoid Omislash, NO ONE CAN.
It’s all in the UO you should read it as it explain’s about Cloud vs Russo and such
Yeah Cloud fights her OFF ferociously, since when does Cloud evre go easy on anyone?
3. That just make’s Vincent look even better than Cloud if she wasnt tired from fighting him yet she is panting from fighting Vincent who isnt bothered in the least
Yet Rosso ran to fight Vincent instead of pwning Cloud, I wonder why?
rm that’s horse shit Cloud’s Omni-Slash was to fast for Sephiroth to avoid and Weiss is faster than that
No he isn’t, you don’t get it do you?
Cloud caught him off guard....Sephiroth was at Weiss’s warp level of speed in CC.
Yup, Sephiroth even tried warp on Cloud FROM BEHIND.
How was he of Guard Sephiroth can clearly see him comeing lol
Do you even know how fast the ORIGINAL omnislash was?
Here we go.
[quote=Cloud’s Profile]When the limit is reached, his sword is imbued with fighting spirit from the heart for just a moment.
In the blink of an eye, 14 hits of damage are dealt one after another.....
That’s the original. Yeah 15 attacks in the blink of an eye, there is no reason why he would use a slower attack in AC.
Sephiroth was > Everyone he could avoid the move.
Omnislash is a tech, not a person, so him being above everyone still stands.
Weiss MAY be faster than the omnislash but we really can’t say
I doubt it as that would make Weiss be able to pwn Sephiroth. Omnislash is supposed to be the move that destroys Sephiroth, and pretty much the only move, if Weiss beats this attack then Sephiroth isn’t the most powerful. The fact that nothing is better than this attack shows how powerful Sephiroth really is, hey Chibi I also have a theory about Sephiroth’s durability too.
There’s the quote about Cloud and Rosso.
Cloud fights off an assassin of DeepGround’s Tsviets, Rosso, ferociously.
wow that’s alot to quote you on Buster so ill sart slow:
Cloud beat Sephiroth we all no this but the circumstance of him winning are due to Sephiroth’s arrogance if they had fought without this factor Sephiroth would have won without a shadow of a doubt?, as we could already see he wasnt haveing any trouble fighting Cloud yet Cloud was giveing his all
Now as for Russo vs Cloud this was alittle more equal due to being a year later all we gather is Cloud fought her off feircely yet the next we hear or see of them both are fine Russo is relaxed and unhindered from battle likewise is Cloud, now the time span in witch the battle was fought could have only lasted a few minute’s before leaveing to face Vincent (her primary directive) so the fact Cloud fought her of would logicaly be due to her wanting to face Vincent more so (this is backed by her showing up to fight Vincent all fine and dandy showing no major battle had fatiuged her in anyway).
Now she fought to kill Vincent and after the battle she indeed show’s sighn’s of fatiuge even after useing BloodBurst Form, yet Vincent is resserved and unhindered showing Vincent Base>Russo Blood Burst makeing Him very close to Cloud who fought her of ferociously as you say yet Vincent Russo Azul none could even touch Base Weiss
Base Weiss 3yr’s prior these event’s owned Russo and Azul together with one arm not Omega Weiss and he had no doubt became much stronger in DoC (so no matter if Cloud did beat Russo the fact it took effort and she was unhindered compared with Weiss not even trying and humiliateing her best effort with Azul to boot 3yrs prior show he is far superior to Cloud), demonstrated by completely owning Vincent who couldent even touch Weiss without envokeing Chaos so Cloud fought Russo with some difficulty she was owned by Vincent who intern couldent touch Weiss proveing Base Weiss>Cloud DoC (If you don’t agree prove Cloud is >Vincent)
Now this is Hyporthetical battle so neither have cause to hold back, and you speak of Sephiroth being over everybody yet he was beaten 3 time’s by a weaker warrior (proveing power dousent = victory in FF) and has shown very little of his so called ability so may i ask what make’s you think Sephiroth is over everyone in every aspect as the Creator’s have never said that?
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