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14 May 2008 08:06 pm
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A creature that walks around and eats meat, while absorbing energy from the sun makes it a plant? Sure....

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bant car dice wrote: yep
the strongest carnivored would survive long enough to mate

its not an issue of survival. its a simple question of conservation of energy. animals use energy to breathe, to hunt, to think, hell, even to digest. no fresh energy would be coming in, but energy would be leaving. that can only lead to one thing. the death of all animals dependent on this energy.

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kev360 wrote:
NEREVAR117 wrote: A creature that uses photosynthesis’s does not mean it’s entirely a plant. And I never said creatures only, either.

you said carnivore. do you know what a carnivore is? it is an animal that eats only meat. there are carnivorous plants, but they are still plants, and thus not carnivores.

no carnivore is a diet plant is a kingdom so being a plant means you can be a carnivore you can also be omnivorus a herbivore or a insectivor not sure what photosynthesising is

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NEREVAR117 wrote: A creature that walks around and eats meat, while absorbing energy from the sun makes it a plant? Sure....

nah, it would be in its own kingdom, cuz its not an animal or a plant. still, makes it not an animal.

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I don’t think solar energy would be it’s prime source

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kev360 wrote:
NEREVAR117 wrote: A creature that walks around and eats meat, while absorbing energy from the sun makes it a plant? Sure....

nah, it would be in its own kingdom, cuz its not an animal or a plant. still, makes it not an animal.


And yet it’s still carnivorous, which means it’s still valid in these circumstances.

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No. Lets say this world has three species, all carnivores. Top predator eats mid predator. Mid predator eats small predator. What does the small predator eat? Mid and top predator are too big and strong for him to hunt. It dies off. That leaves the middle predator nothing to eat. It dies. Then the Top predator starves and dies.

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kev360 wrote:
NEREVAR117 wrote: A creature that walks around and eats meat, while absorbing energy from the sun makes it a plant? Sure....

nah, it would be in its own kingdom, cuz its not an animal or a plant. still, makes it not an animal.

no jes cuz u photosynthisises dosent make you a plant there are plants that dont photosynthesise

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petrofsky wrote: No. Lets say this world has three species, all carnivores. Top predator eats mid predator. Mid predator eats small predator. What does the small predator eat? Mid and top predator are too big and strong for him to hunt. It dies off. That leaves the middle predator nothing to eat. It dies. Then the Top predator starves and dies.

small eat small? or medium eat small and medium?

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petrofsky wrote: No. Lets say this world has three species, all carnivores. Top predator eats mid predator. Mid predator eats small predator. What does the small predator eat? Mid and top predator are too big and strong for him to hunt. It dies off. That leaves the middle predator nothing to eat. It dies. Then the Top predator starves and dies.

I was thinking avout that what the primary energy source of this planet it can’t be a sun how about chemical.

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Crimson Pheonix wrote:
petrofsky wrote: No. Lets say this world has three species, all carnivores. Top predator eats mid predator. Mid predator eats small predator. What does the small predator eat? Mid and top predator are too big and strong for him to hunt. It dies off. That leaves the middle predator nothing to eat. It dies. Then the Top predator starves and dies.

small eat small? or medium eat small and medium?


Then there would be no mating. In other words, no expansion of the species. They will just keep killing each other until they are dead.

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1indainfinite wrote:
petrofsky wrote: No. Lets say this world has three species, all carnivores. Top predator eats mid predator. Mid predator eats small predator. What does the small predator eat? Mid and top predator are too big and strong for him to hunt. It dies off. That leaves the middle predator nothing to eat. It dies. Then the Top predator starves and dies.

I was thinking avout that what the primary energy source of this planet it can’t be a sun how about chemical.

no the primary source has to be meat and absolutely no plant for it to be carnivorous meat suplemented by chemical sure

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petrofsky wrote:
Crimson Pheonix wrote:
petrofsky wrote: No. Lets say this world has three species, all carnivores. Top predator eats mid predator. Mid predator eats small predator. What does the small predator eat? Mid and top predator are too big and strong for him to hunt. It dies off. That leaves the middle predator nothing to eat. It dies. Then the Top predator starves and dies.

small eat small? or medium eat small and medium?


Then there would be no mating. In other words, no expansion of the species. They will just keep killing each other until they are dead.

no komodo dragons are cannibalistic and still thrive

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Crimson Pheonix wrote:
1indainfinite wrote:
petrofsky wrote: No. Lets say this world has three species, all carnivores. Top predator eats mid predator. Mid predator eats small predator. What does the small predator eat? Mid and top predator are too big and strong for him to hunt. It dies off. That leaves the middle predator nothing to eat. It dies. Then the Top predator starves and dies.

I was thinking avout that what the primary energy source of this planet it can’t be a sun how about chemical.

no the primary source has to be meat and absolutely no plant for it to be carnivorous meat suplemented by chemical sure

But it needs to be a primary source unless the planet happens to be Ego the living planet.

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1indainfinite wrote:
Crimson Pheonix wrote:
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petrofsky wrote: No. Lets say this world has three species, all carnivores. Top predator eats mid predator. Mid predator eats small predator. What does the small predator eat? Mid and top predator are too big and strong for him to hunt. It dies off. That leaves the middle predator nothing to eat. It dies. Then the Top predator starves and dies.

I was thinking avout that what the primary energy source of this planet it can’t be a sun how about chemical.

no the primary source has to be meat and absolutely no plant for it to be carnivorous meat suplemented by chemical sure

But it needs to be a primary source unless the planet happens to be Ego the living planet.

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kev360 wrote:
bant car dice wrote: yep
the strongest carnivored would survive long enough to mate

its not an issue of survival. its a simple question of conservation of energy. animals use energy to breathe, to hunt, to think, hell, even to digest. no fresh energy would be coming in, but energy would be leaving. that can only lead to one thing. the death of all animals dependent on this energy.

all the live organisms that are eaten by fish have some energy, so then the ones that ate the fish could function on the energy thats left.

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Crimson Pheonix wrote:
petrofsky wrote:
Crimson Pheonix wrote:
petrofsky wrote: No. Lets say this world has three species, all carnivores. Top predator eats mid predator. Mid predator eats small predator. What does the small predator eat? Mid and top predator are too big and strong for him to hunt. It dies off. That leaves the middle predator nothing to eat. It dies. Then the Top predator starves and dies.

small eat small? or medium eat small and medium?


Then there would be no mating. In other words, no expansion of the species. They will just keep killing each other until they are dead.

no komodo dragons are cannibalistic and still thrive


But they also have other prey. They perfer eating other animals than themselves, so there would still be mating going on.

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Alright, I’m changing the rules slightly.

Can support a working ecosystem, but the animals do not eat the plants. There is a sun, there are oceans, the planet it similar to Earth.

Go.

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bant car dice wrote:
kev360 wrote:
bant car dice wrote: yep
the strongest carnivored would survive long enough to mate

its not an issue of survival. its a simple question of conservation of energy. animals use energy to breathe, to hunt, to think, hell, even to digest. no fresh energy would be coming in, but energy would be leaving. that can only lead to one thing. the death of all animals dependent on this energy.

all the live organisms that are eaten by fish have some energy, so then the ones that ate the fish could function on the energy thats left.

all animals get their energy from plants, one way or annother. carnivores get their energy from other animals, which got their energy from plants. without plants, it would last for a bit, but all species would die out really quick. thus, it wouldn’t really function properly.

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