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23 May 2008 01:47 pm
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Who would win?
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23 May 2008 02:10 pm
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Pre Crisis has better physical feats. He could win, but I think the Surfer can win this too, simply because of his indrect abilities, his energy manipulation is pretty damn good, and they are both insane speedsters, Superman is more of a brawler whislt Norrin is more of a energy based attacker. Surfer has generated the energy of the big crunch to beat 2 Galactus level beings, need I say feats for Pre Crisis? Because we know what he can do. I do have a feeling that most people are going to go with Pre Crisis Supes though. The Power Cosmic is a bitch though too.
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24 May 2008 04:15 pm
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nope pre crisis gets owned no matter how strong he gets the power cosmic gets stronger no matter how fast he gets the power cosmic is faster only in hand to hand does superman have a chance and since the surfer wont allow that the fight ends..............the surfer can absorb all his solar energy or he can turn it into kryptonite inside him since he can rearrange energy and matter for wateva use he wants....hince when the elder god the obliterator showed up and he turned all his destructive energy to harmless light.....
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24 May 2008 07:04 pm
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papamidnite420 wrote: nope pre crisis gets owned no matter how strong he gets the power cosmic gets stronger no matter how fast he gets the power cosmic is faster only in hand to hand does superman have a chance and since the surfer wont allow that the fight ends..............the surfer can absorb all his solar energy or he can turn it into kryptonite inside him since he can rearrange energy and matter for wateva use he wants....hince when the elder god the obliterator showed up and he turned all his destructive energy to harmless light.....

Well Superman resisted many powerful transformation before, so surfer cannot transform parts of his body. Wasn’t Pre Crisis Superman like million time faster than light while surfer is like 1000 times faster than light? I mean Pre Crisis Superman moved planets by just breathe for god’s sake.
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25 May 2008 09:32 am
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The Surfer actually has limitless speeds, and can augment his strength to the level of a fully enranged Hulk, who as you know is at CELESTIAL level.
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25 May 2008 07:26 pm
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plus its not the transformation its all the energy thats inside him that changes and since its in his blood when he turns it to kryptonite thats the end..........and supes wasnt a million times faster than light he was light speed since he didnt transverse thru warp holes like the surfer...only done when ova light speed........ and the surfer can snap his fingers and destroy a planet.....he brought a planet back to life then over powered himself and destroyed it but that was when he was weakened at full power he is beyond this.........he hasnt been at full power since he came out he lost half of it from an explosion keyed to his energy and he was still rated 1
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02 Oct 2008 07:51 pm
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Buster Sword wrote: The Surfer actually has limitless speeds, and can augment his strength to the level of a fully enranged Hulk, who as you know is at CELESTIAL level.

You sure about that? Power ranking says otherwise. Pre Crisis Superman sneezed and destroyed star system. He moved several planets to other orbits. Pre Crisis Superman owns any incarnation of Hulk that it is not funny. He moved so fast that Louis didn’t notice him rescuing other planets in other galaxy.
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02 Oct 2008 09:42 pm
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thats funny since the power cosmic can allow u to have unlimited strength.........and ss owns the hulk too son...........ss can move planets but wat u fail to c is that superman is da poster boy for dc and they made him do anything but even more fucked is that he’s got that kryptonite weakness thing and ss can create that from anything around the area since da power cosmic allows this
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02 Oct 2008 09:53 pm
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papamidnite420 wrote: thats funny since the power cosmic can allow u to have unlimited strength.........and ss owns the hulk too son...........ss can move planets but wat u fail to c is that superman is da poster boy for dc and they made him do anything but even more fucked is that he’s got that kryptonite weakness thing and ss can create that from anything around the area since da power cosmic allows this


Surfer has never moved a planet,he can blow them up but move them no.
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03 Oct 2008 12:07 am
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So I guess Surfer loses this one?
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03 Oct 2008 03:04 am
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lionfranky wrote:
Buster Sword wrote: The Surfer actually has limitless speeds, and can augment his strength to the level of a fully enranged Hulk, who as you know is at CELESTIAL level.

You sure about that? Power ranking says otherwise. Pre Crisis Superman sneezed and destroyed star system. He moved several planets to other orbits. Pre Crisis Superman owns any incarnation of Hulk that it is not funny. He moved so fast that Louis didn’t notice him rescuing other planets in other galaxy.

Surfer has done light years in seconds too, and I meant to say nigh limitless, my bad. He also has nano second reactions, he’s never moved a planet, but I’m sure he’s capable of doing it.
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03 Oct 2008 03:10 am
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Post Crisis have to fight to win but this guy....Surfer have no chances. That is too obvious. Should be locked.
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03 Oct 2008 11:05 am
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As soon as you said Post Crisis, I stoped reading, sorry.
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03 Oct 2008 11:11 am
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Read it or not. This is one sided. That won’t be a fight. Supes wins.
Sould be locked.
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03 Oct 2008 11:13 am
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Not necessarily.
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03 Oct 2008 02:14 pm
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seeing as how ss can tell this dude his weakness within nanoseconds before the fight starts he’d give him the option to leave.......supes refuses and hits the surfer......surfer then turns the solar energy he collects into red solar energy.....supes is fucked but that’s not all.......then ss turns all near by rocks or anything he can get into kryptonite and this is all ova........can superman get cut into pcs and those pcs give the ppl who hold them untold amounts of power......then can superman regenerate his body back to full potential like nothing happened......no he cant.......and betta feats....wow surfer has fought and beaten gods while supes fights and loses to gods......cept weak as orion.......its superman vs the power cosmic
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03 Oct 2008 02:18 pm
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The Silver Surfer wields the Power Cosmic, absorbing and manipulating the universe’s cosmic energy, and is virtually indestructible for practical purposes, but can be injured or even killed by beings who equal or exceed his own power-level, such as Morg or Thanos. He can navigate through space, dimensional barriers, and hyperspace, which he can enter to exceed the speed of light when flying on his board.[41] He has even proven to be capable of time travel on several occasions.[42] The Surfer, who sustains himself by converting matter into energy, does not require food, water, air, or sleep. He is immune to extreme temperatures and radiation, and he can survive in vacuum environments such as outer space and hyperspace; he has even proven capable of withstanding the extreme forces encountered within black holes and stars.[43][44] He can analyze and manipulate matter and energy, and restructure or animate matter at will, even transmuting elements. He can also project energy in various forms for offensive and defensive use. The Surfer’s power is such that he can create energy projections strong enough to destroy entire planetoids and planets.[45] [46] He can utilize the Power Cosmic to augment his already superhuman strength to indeterminate levels.[47] The Surfer can heal living organisms, though he cannot raise the dead,[41]and he has proven capable of revitalizing and evolving organic life on a planet-wide scale.[48] He can alter the size of himself or of other matter, cast illusions,[49] and phase through solid matter.[41] Furthermore the Silver Surfer can project himself onto the astral plane using the power cosmic, where he is apparently invulnerable or possesses some degree thereof.[50].

His senses enable him to detect objects and energies light years away and to perceive matter and energy in subatomic detail.[51] The Surfer can even see through time, and with concentration he can achieve limited perception of past and future events in his general vicinity. [52] He has demonstrated telepathic ability, including mind-reading on occasion,[53] and has proven to be able to influence human emotion and sensation


he can do wat he wants to superman
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03 Oct 2008 02:34 pm
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Just because he can react in nano second doesn’t mean he can figure out weakness in no time. It actually took some time for Surfer to figure out Hulk’s weakness. And just you know that Pre Crisis Supes can speedblitz Surfer. I am not being baised here. Seriously.
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03 Oct 2008 02:38 pm
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I think Surfer’s faster than pre-crisis Superman (can go into hyperspace) so cant he calculate weakness while running away o sth. he can definitely dodge really well.
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03 Oct 2008 02:39 pm
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The nano second reactions would help with the speed blitzing, Lionfranky.
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