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[Quote] #21
25 May 2008 08:20 pm
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Well if you had stated Oni Link would win and not the hesitent Oni Link would stand a better chance id have belived in his ability alittle more, and sure it’s a draw just like that with no proof fact or logic you might be happy with that but truth is Cloud pwn’s Link in term’s of combat and ability
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25 May 2008 08:32 pm
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Still say Cloud wins.
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25 May 2008 08:34 pm
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agreed
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26 May 2008 05:55 pm
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Nahh. I say Link. Master Sword owns Buster Sword. I’m not saying Link would own him easily, Link would probably look like road kill if he beat Cloud, cause, Cloud ain’t weak. I still say Link, though.
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26 May 2008 06:04 pm
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LinkHeroOfTime wrote: Nahh. I say Link. Master Sword owns Buster Sword. I’m not saying Link would own him easily, Link would probably look like road kill if he beat Cloud, cause, Cloud ain’t weak. I still say Link, though.

How exactly?
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26 May 2008 06:16 pm
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made already to see how and why it ends in a tie, check out the original topic
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how is master sword > a 350kg sword swung by a meta human???
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27 May 2008 03:50 pm
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This was a tie. Pretty damn good fight though. But Cloud can’t beat Link. Link has access to too many items and shit. Nayru’s Love, Magic Cape, Giant’s Mask, Fierce Diety Mask, ect. But on the same side, Link couldn’t touch Cloud due to Cloud’s superior physical attributes. After over a year of arguing we declared it a tie and had the topic locked so that guests would stop dragging it back up after it was decided.
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27 May 2008 04:12 pm
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ohh cmon dude Link can ware one mask at a time while he is busy changeing outfit’s what is Cloud doing lol?

Cloud’s Materia beat’s Link’s gear my man STOP Omnislash Game Over
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Kyle Knight wrote: ohh cmon dude Link can ware one mask at a time while he is busy changeing outfit’s what is Cloud doing lol?

Cloud’s Materia beat’s Link’s gear my man STOP Omnislash Game Over


Actually, the mask thing is pretty much instant, so while Link’s 'changing' Cloud would be... blinking?

As for Cloud’s materia beating Link’s items... Not really. The magic cape alone makes Link immune to all physical and magical attacks and makes him invisible. He’s pretty much in a sub dimension which he can attack you from.
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Red_Calibur9 wrote:

How exactly?

Well first off, the Master Sword was made by the GODS, and has thier power infused into it. And the Triforces power too. Second, bigger doesn’t mean better, it doesn’t matter how big the Buster Sword is. Thirdly, the Master Sword is magic and Link can shoot out power blasts and charge it with magic.---

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27 May 2008 04:58 pm
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LinkHeroOfTime wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:

How exactly?

Well first off, the Master Sword was made by the GODS, and has thier power infused into it. And the Triforces power too. Second, bigger doesn’t mean better, it doesn’t matter how big the Buster Sword is. Thirdly, the Master Sword is magic and Link can shoot out power blasts and charge it with magic.

It doesn’t matter if it’s made by the gods if it isn’t that strong.
Bigger is better when swords clash, especially since Cloud is physically stronger than Link.
The MS cannot shoot power blasts or charge with magic, the closest thing to that is the magic spin attack.---
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27 May 2008 05:03 pm
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Red_Calibur9 wrote:
It doesn’t matter if it’s made by the gods if it isn’t that strong.
Bigger is better when swords clash, especially since Cloud is physically stronger than Link.
The MS cannot shoot power blasts or charge with magic, the closest thing to that is the magic spin attack.


Me thinks you should pay less time to Metroid and more to Zelda if you plan on arguing against Link.

The Master Sword is the ultimate blade, it was stronger than the Biggorron’s Sword. As for it shooting power blasts, in the early Zelda Games the sword that Link used (The Magic Sword, later renamed Master Sword) could shoot energy blasts when Link’s health was at max.
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27 May 2008 05:05 pm
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Cid wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
It doesn’t matter if it’s made by the gods if it isn’t that strong.
Bigger is better when swords clash, especially since Cloud is physically stronger than Link.
The MS cannot shoot power blasts or charge with magic, the closest thing to that is the magic spin attack.


Me thinks you should pay less time to Metroid and more to Zelda if you plan on arguing against Link.

The Master Sword is the ultimate blade, it was stronger than the Biggorron’s Sword. As for it shooting power blasts, in the early Zelda Games the sword that Link used (The Magic Sword, later renamed Master Sword) could shoot energy blasts when Link’s health was at max.

Oh yeah, right...
The Biggoron’s Sword is stronger. The magic blasts are 1/2 as strong as the weakest sword in the game.
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27 May 2008 05:07 pm
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The Biggoron’s Sword has more power than the Master Sword, though Link can’t use a shield when he uses it. His best chance would be to use the Master Sword since he can also use his shield for defense, and even more so since the Master Sword has not been shown to take any real damage from attacks.
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27 May 2008 05:10 pm
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Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Cid wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
It doesn’t matter if it’s made by the gods if it isn’t that strong.
Bigger is better when swords clash, especially since Cloud is physically stronger than Link.
The MS cannot shoot power blasts or charge with magic, the closest thing to that is the magic spin attack.


Me thinks you should pay less time to Metroid and more to Zelda if you plan on arguing against Link.

The Master Sword is the ultimate blade, it was stronger than the Biggorron’s Sword. As for it shooting power blasts, in the early Zelda Games the sword that Link used (The Magic Sword, later renamed Master Sword) could shoot energy blasts when Link’s health was at max.

Oh yeah, right...
The Biggoron’s Sword is stronger. The magic blasts are 1/2 as strong as the weakest sword in the game.


There was only that sword in the first games, and the magic bursts were actually twice and strong. Killing most smaller enemies in one hit. And the Biggoron’s Sword did more damage, but that’s not what I meant by stronger. I meant that as in sturdier. The truth is, a smaller sword often gives the wielder and advantage against enemies who used larger ones. The reason is attack space. Cloud would need a much wider space to attack effectively in. If Link stayed in close, he’d likely win. Link already has a lot more skill with a sword than Cloud. Link is a reincarnated Hero, who has knowledge passed down to him from the generations before. Which equals centuries of skill. Cloud has, 3 years if you count Dirge of Cerberus. But for two of those years he didn’t even use his sword except to maybe fend off the occasional beast from his delivery job.
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27 May 2008 05:12 pm
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Cid wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Cid wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
It doesn’t matter if it’s made by the gods if it isn’t that strong.
Bigger is better when swords clash, especially since Cloud is physically stronger than Link.
The MS cannot shoot power blasts or charge with magic, the closest thing to that is the magic spin attack.


Me thinks you should pay less time to Metroid and more to Zelda if you plan on arguing against Link.

The Master Sword is the ultimate blade, it was stronger than the Biggorron’s Sword. As for it shooting power blasts, in the early Zelda Games the sword that Link used (The Magic Sword, later renamed Master Sword) could shoot energy blasts when Link’s health was at max.

Oh yeah, right...
The Biggoron’s Sword is stronger. The magic blasts are 1/2 as strong as the weakest sword in the game.


There was only that sword in the first games, and the magic bursts were actually twice and strong. Killing most smaller enemies in one hit. And the Biggoron’s Sword did more damage, but that’s not what I meant by stronger. I meant that as in sturdier. The truth is, a smaller sword often gives the wielder and advantage against enemies who used larger ones. The reason is attack space. Cloud would need a much wider space to attack effectively in. If Link stayed in close, he’d likely win. Link already has a lot more skill with a sword than Cloud. Link is a reincarnated Hero, who has knowledge passed down to him from the generations before. Which equals centuries of skill. Cloud has, 3 years if you count Dirge of Cerberus. But for two of those years he didn’t even use his sword except to maybe fend off the occasional beast from his delivery job.

Yes ok, the Master Sword is not as damaging, and Link may or may not be more skillful with his sword. But we have to account for Cloud being much faster and stronger.
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27 May 2008 05:17 pm
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Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Cid wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Cid wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
It doesn’t matter if it’s made by the gods if it isn’t that strong.
Bigger is better when swords clash, especially since Cloud is physically stronger than Link.
The MS cannot shoot power blasts or charge with magic, the closest thing to that is the magic spin attack.


Me thinks you should pay less time to Metroid and more to Zelda if you plan on arguing against Link.

The Master Sword is the ultimate blade, it was stronger than the Biggorron’s Sword. As for it shooting power blasts, in the early Zelda Games the sword that Link used (The Magic Sword, later renamed Master Sword) could shoot energy blasts when Link’s health was at max.

Oh yeah, right...
The Biggoron’s Sword is stronger. The magic blasts are 1/2 as strong as the weakest sword in the game.


There was only that sword in the first games, and the magic bursts were actually twice and strong. Killing most smaller enemies in one hit. And the Biggoron’s Sword did more damage, but that’s not what I meant by stronger. I meant that as in sturdier. The truth is, a smaller sword often gives the wielder and advantage against enemies who used larger ones. The reason is attack space. Cloud would need a much wider space to attack effectively in. If Link stayed in close, he’d likely win. Link already has a lot more skill with a sword than Cloud. Link is a reincarnated Hero, who has knowledge passed down to him from the generations before. Which equals centuries of skill. Cloud has, 3 years if you count Dirge of Cerberus. But for two of those years he didn’t even use his sword except to maybe fend off the occasional beast from his delivery job.

Yes ok, the Master Sword is not as damaging, and Link may or may not be more skillful with his sword. But we have to account for Cloud being much faster and stronger.


If you really think about, great speed and strength can be a severe disadvantage against a master. Let’s say Cloud charges in with vertical swing. Link steps to the side slightly and raises his shield, Cloud’s huge sword grazes the shield but rolls off to the side and is plunged into the ground. Due to Cloud’s exerted energy the sword becomes stuck and allows for Link to quickly retaliate from Cloud’s side. Effectively either ending the fight there or severely injuring his opponent.

Not saying it WOULD happen. But it’s a possibility and should go to show how it could be a downfall for Cloud to rely more on his superior speed and strength.
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27 May 2008 05:20 pm
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fight=tie go check the old one...this topic is so old that its in the vs debate respect thread, and its still open, no need for another one
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27 May 2008 05:21 pm
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Cid wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Cid wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
Cid wrote:
Red_Calibur9 wrote:
It doesn’t matter if it’s made by the gods if it isn’t that strong.
Bigger is better when swords clash, especially since Cloud is physically stronger than Link.
The MS cannot shoot power blasts or charge with magic, the closest thing to that is the magic spin attack.


Me thinks you should pay less time to Metroid and more to Zelda if you plan on arguing against Link.

The Master Sword is the ultimate blade, it was stronger than the Biggorron’s Sword. As for it shooting power blasts, in the early Zelda Games the sword that Link used (The Magic Sword, later renamed Master Sword) could shoot energy blasts when Link’s health was at max.

Oh yeah, right...
The Biggoron’s Sword is stronger. The magic blasts are 1/2 as strong as the weakest sword in the game.


There was only that sword in the first games, and the magic bursts were actually twice and strong. Killing most smaller enemies in one hit. And the Biggoron’s Sword did more damage, but that’s not what I meant by stronger. I meant that as in sturdier. The truth is, a smaller sword often gives the wielder and advantage against enemies who used larger ones. The reason is attack space. Cloud would need a much wider space to attack effectively in. If Link stayed in close, he’d likely win. Link already has a lot more skill with a sword than Cloud. Link is a reincarnated Hero, who has knowledge passed down to him from the generations before. Which equals centuries of skill. Cloud has, 3 years if you count Dirge of Cerberus. But for two of those years he didn’t even use his sword except to maybe fend off the occasional beast from his delivery job.

Yes ok, the Master Sword is not as damaging, and Link may or may not be more skillful with his sword. But we have to account for Cloud being much faster and stronger.


If you really think about, great speed and strength can be a severe disadvantage against a master. Let’s say Cloud charges in with vertical swing. Link steps to the side slightly and raises his shield, Cloud’s huge sword grazes the shield but rolls off to the side and is plunged into the ground. Due to Cloud’s exerted energy the sword becomes stuck and allows for Link to quickly retaliate from Cloud’s side. Effectively either ending the fight there or severely injuring his opponent.

Not saying it WOULD happen. But it’s a possibility and should go to show how it could be a downfall for Cloud to rely more on his superior speed and strength.

I don’t think that Link would be able to fend off such a fast a powerful attack so easily.
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