| 26 May 2008 08:18 pm |
the greatest Rep: 16 Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 5,479 OFFLINE | can we add these as actual rules for the vs. section (and topics can be loked and users banned for short periods of time for not following them), as well as getting some member (nihilus or some other frequent poster i nthe vs. section) a position as moderator
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Here are some more rules for the Suggestions topic to update the page more so we can have more civilized debates and not relentless ranting.
The “No PIS” Rule
PIS = Plot Induced Stupidity
At times, for the sake of the plot, characters that are immensely more powerful than their opponent will “job” to carry on the plot of the story, even though the characters powers and history would clearly show that they are more than capable of destroying their opponent. For this reason we have a No PIS Rule. This rule prohibits the use of such instances of PIS from being used as evidence in debates.
Just post battles here.
This is a “versus” forum. A forum dedicated to comic character matches. Any thread that isn’t a match will get closed.
NOTE: Characters involved in a fight should be written in thread title.
No Spite Threads
Now, a spite thread is usually considered as a thread opened to intentionally be one-sided (because the poster may not like that character, or opened to goad another person into responding, etc.). Moderators will decide if or if not a thread was made out of spite. Spite threads are NOT tolerated and will be closed, and the poster warned (or more severe consequences will be taken if that poster’s been warned multiple times).
Rules/Standard Fight Settings
In most cases, the poster who originally set up the versus fight determines the conditions of the fight itself (ex. If a character like Superman is in a thread, it’ll be assumed that it’s the current version unless mentioned otherwise by the thread starter, the same goes with Thanos without the IG, and so on). However, in the cases where the original poster did not set down any constraints or conditions for the fight, then the match would default to the standard rules below.
Prep time
Neither side receives any notable prep time before the starting bell unless the thread starter specifies it. Neither side may take any offensive or defensive actions before the starting bell. Planning is allowed and powers that are automatic or 'always on' can be up, but actions such as setting up forcefields, taking flight, or consciously activating powers is not. For example, Batman cannot shove together an 'anti-Avengers ray' before the fight.
Standard Equipment
Each side starts out with the equipment that they normally and have been shown to consistently carry on them. For example, Daredevil would have his billy-club, but Reed Richards would not have the Ultimate Nullifier.
In a scenario fight, the contestants in whose city/reality the fight takes place are allowed access to any material resources they usually have there or of any team they’re active members of, as long as they can reasonably get to them. For example, in a scenario set in the DCU, Green Lantern would have access to equipment in the JLA Watchtower, but not the Titans headquarters.
Basic Knowledge
Each side receives basic knowledge of the other. A good measure of this would be what the general population of the character’s homeworld knows. For example, that Superman has a weakness to Kryptonite is general knowledge, but that he’s Clark Kent is not.
Full Capacity
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character’s personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn’t clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.
No outside help
Unless specified otherwise, no contestant may call for outside assistance, even in scenario matches. For example, Captain America cannot call in the Avengers during a fight with Batman.
Leaving the field
Combatants who leave the field of combat on purpose forfeit the match. If they are removed from the arena against their will (being punched, thrown, teleported, etc.) and can make it back under their own power in a reasonable amount of time, then they are still in the fight. Obviously, if a combatant leaves the field and cannot return under their own power, then they have lost.
No Bias Claims
“Batman can beat Thor because he’s cooler!" That’s an example of how not to debate. We would like to see the rationale behind any claims that one character can beat the other rather than a claim based on popularity and subjective bias.
Also, we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. If you claim that Spiderman is stronger than Superman, then you have to prove it.
No Non-canon Sources
Non-canon sources are invalid for evidence. With rare exceptions, comics not in continuity such as Elseworlds, What Ifs, or alternate universes are not used for evidence in debates of a particular mainstream character.
A canon source is one that is regarded as being 'in continuity'. In the example of Star Trek; instances from the series and movies can be used, but books are definitely out. Comic book crossovers are usually unusable as they ignore common sense most of the time (DC vs. Marvel is certainly unusable in some cases in our debates!).
This principle extends to characters with multiple versions, alternate timelines, etc. Unless specified by the thread starter, only current-version canon feats are allowed.
No Mentioning Events of PIS
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don’t use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.
Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates.
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| 26 May 2008 08:19 pm |
12 days left. Splee? Rep: 75 Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 28,500 OFFLINE | I’ve already added those to it...
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| 26 May 2008 08:24 pm |
the greatest Rep: 16Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 5,479 OFFLINE | Darth Nihilus wrote:
I’ve already added those to it...
yes but they arent official, we can add them, but not enforce them
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| 26 May 2008 08:26 pm |
12 days left. Splee? Rep: 75Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 28,500 OFFLINE | Trackz wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
I’ve already added those to it...
yes but they arent official, we can add them, but not enforce them
Well, that would be better. I think you should mod over this since you made this thread. Or we could let someone else do it. If you don’t want to do it, I suggest Chibi.
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| 26 May 2008 08:32 pm |
the greatest Rep: 16Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 5,479 OFFLINE | Darth Nihilus wrote:
Trackz wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
I’ve already added those to it...
yes but they arent official, we can add them, but not enforce them
Well, that would be better. I think you should mod over this since you made this thread. Or we could let someone else do it. If you don’t want to do it, I suggest Chibi.
I’d do it...I Dont want to seem selfish though haha, but any of the memebers of tha tcouncil thing you made would be good
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| 26 May 2008 08:32 pm |
12 days left. Splee? Rep: 75Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 28,500 OFFLINE | hahaha, well, there could be more than one person modding over the thread in case something is needed.
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| 26 May 2008 08:33 pm |
Regular Rep: 7 Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 642 OFFLINE | I think Darth Nihilus should be a mod. >.>
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| 26 May 2008 08:35 pm |
12 days left. Splee? Rep: 75Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 28,500 OFFLINE | A mod mod, or for this topic? And why exactly?
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| 26 May 2008 08:37 pm |
Regular Rep: 7Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 642 OFFLINE | Darth Nihilus wrote:
A mod mod, or for this topic? And why exactly?
Mod mod.
You seem to be the most deserving out of the idiots I came across this entire forum who isn’t a mod.
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| 26 May 2008 08:37 pm |
12 days left. Splee? Rep: 75Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 28,500 OFFLINE | DarkMessenger13 wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
A mod mod, or for this topic? And why exactly?
Mod mod.
You seem to be the most deserving out of the idiots I came across this entire forum who isn’t a mod.
Deserving? How so?
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| 26 May 2008 08:41 pm |
Regular Rep: 7Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 642 OFFLINE | Darth Nihilus wrote:
DarkMessenger13 wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
A mod mod, or for this topic? And why exactly?
Mod mod.
You seem to be the most deserving out of the idiots I came across this entire forum who isn’t a mod.
Deserving? How so?
In many ways. I cannot describe them all.
But you are hardly biased and doesn’t take Internet seriously as far as I know.
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| 26 May 2008 08:43 pm |
12 days left. Splee? Rep: 75Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 28,500 OFFLINE | DarkMessenger13 wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
DarkMessenger13 wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
A mod mod, or for this topic? And why exactly?
Mod mod.
You seem to be the most deserving out of the idiots I came across this entire forum who isn’t a mod.
Deserving? How so?
In many ways. I cannot describe them all.
But you are hardly biased and doesn’t take Internet seriously as far as I know.
Well, thanks for the compliment, though I feel as if I have not earned the right to become a moderator yet. I’m not the kind of person to be biased, that’s just how I am.
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| 26 May 2008 08:46 pm |
Regular Rep: 7Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 642 OFFLINE | Darth Nihilus wrote:
DarkMessenger13 wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
DarkMessenger13 wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
A mod mod, or for this topic? And why exactly?
Mod mod.
You seem to be the most deserving out of the idiots I came across this entire forum who isn’t a mod.
Deserving? How so?
In many ways. I cannot describe them all.
But you are hardly biased and doesn’t take Internet seriously as far as I know.
Well, thanks for the compliment, though I feel as if I have not earned the right to become a moderator yet. I’m not the kind of person to be biased, that’s just how I am.
It wasn’t a compliment. :/
It’s more of a fact.
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| 26 May 2008 08:47 pm |
12 days left. Splee? Rep: 75Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 28,500 OFFLINE | DarkMessenger13 wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
DarkMessenger13 wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
DarkMessenger13 wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
A mod mod, or for this topic? And why exactly?
Mod mod.
You seem to be the most deserving out of the idiots I came across this entire forum who isn’t a mod.
Deserving? How so?
In many ways. I cannot describe them all.
But you are hardly biased and doesn’t take Internet seriously as far as I know.
Well, thanks for the compliment, though I feel as if I have not earned the right to become a moderator yet. I’m not the kind of person to be biased, that’s just how I am.
It wasn’t a compliment. :/
It’s more of a fact.
 Really?? Well then... :^)
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| 26 May 2008 08:49 pm |
Regular Rep: 7Joined: 24 Apr 2008 Posts: 642 OFFLINE | Darth Nihilus wrote:
DarkMessenger13 wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
DarkMessenger13 wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
DarkMessenger13 wrote:
Darth Nihilus wrote:
A mod mod, or for this topic? And why exactly?
Mod mod.
You seem to be the most deserving out of the idiots I came across this entire forum who isn’t a mod.
Deserving? How so?
In many ways. I cannot describe them all.
But you are hardly biased and doesn’t take Internet seriously as far as I know.
Well, thanks for the compliment, though I feel as if I have not earned the right to become a moderator yet. I’m not the kind of person to be biased, that’s just how I am.
It wasn’t a compliment. :/
It’s more of a fact.
Really?? Well then... :^)
*dances*
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| 26 May 2008 08:50 pm |
12 days left. Splee? Rep: 75Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 28,500 OFFLINE | Though I don’t take the internet seriously, it is an extremely serious business. That is pure fact.
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| 26 May 2008 09:09 pm |
the greatest Rep: 16Joined: 23 Jul 2007 Posts: 5,479 OFFLINE | Darth Nihilus wrote:
Though I don’t take the internet seriously, it is an extremely serious business. That is pure fact.
well then Ill do it  jk
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| 27 May 2008 08:58 pm |
God of Time Rep: 46 Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 10,304 OFFLINE | Well I couldn’t do it..I get grounded from time to time.
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| 27 May 2008 09:00 pm |
The one and forever only... Rep: 39 Joined: 11 Feb 2008 Posts: 10,620 OFFLINE | Come on does that mean ay threads will be locked?
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| 27 May 2008 09:00 pm |
12 days left. Splee? Rep: 75Joined: 07 Jan 2008 Posts: 28,500 OFFLINE | Well, if Trackz doesn’t want to do it, then I’ll do it. I have more time to mod over it since I’ve graduated and don’t have much to do atm.
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