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28 May 2008 12:40 am
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My comment is that you should read your sources next time to make sure your not refuting your own argument.
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ahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha... soz couldnt help it...
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29 May 2008 07:55 am
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Hahahaha... LOL...

Just like I said to you...

refute it...
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29 May 2008 08:45 am
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this is stupid
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29 May 2008 02:44 pm
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Itachi Uchiha wrote: Hahahaha... LOL...

Just like I said to you...

refute it...

It refuted itself and even if the skeleton was real it would prove evolution
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29 May 2008 02:46 pm
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Hell if fairies were real it prove evolution.
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote: Hahahaha... LOL...

Just like I said to you...

refute it...

It refuted itself and even if the skeleton was real it would prove evolution

I dont know about that....
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30 May 2008 05:08 pm
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Gplex wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote: Hahahaha... LOL...

Just like I said to you...

refute it...

It refuted itself and even if the skeleton was real it would prove evolution

I dont know about that....

If giants existed and now they don’t doesn’t that signal natural selection at work?
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OYG I found a shiba!
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30 May 2008 07:33 pm
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Evolution dusnt disprove God nyways. Science isnt opposed to religion, anymore than its opposed to athiesm. Science is a neutral factor, and a huge % of christians are non-creationist nyway. When u consider most of the old testament is metaphor, (e.g book of Job; all of life is a test of goodness, and noahs ark; God made things extinct (like the dinasours) so that humans could arise, and he promises not to make us extinct) genesis makes far more sense
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Holy shit a guy with an education (Will MvC ever be the same find out soon Saturday at 9 am)
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30 May 2008 09:00 pm
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Itachi Uchiha wrote: Hahahaha... LOL...

Just like I said to you...

refute it...


You know, if you just admitted your mistake instead of lashing out at people, then you wouldn’t look so stupid. :/
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Edit: Whoops, the computer glitched and I double posted.
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30 May 2008 09:12 pm
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w8 a minite, people were sayin b4 that this guy was gplex in disguise. If so, might this be deliberately to show up theists?
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I don’t believe Gplex is Itachi in disguise. For one thing, his spelling is certainly better than Itachi’s though, even though English is probably Itachi’s second language.
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31 May 2008 01:01 pm
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We can’t go around changing the definition of words simply to pacify superstitious fears. If we consider god as defined in the Big Three: Christianity, judaism, and Islam (and their respective off-shoots) then evolution does disprove the existence of god. If you believe that man and man alone has a soul, as the Big Three says, and you believe in evolution, then at what point does an animal gain a soul? Does god wait until they reach a certain moral authority? Or did He build us with some kind of soul-switch that kicks in once we begin to feel guilt for our “sins”? If, however, you believe in say Hinduism or buddhism then there’s room for evolution, but really those belief systems see “god” as an archetype, not as a consciousness concerned with judging our actions. Which is really a figurative interpretation, and hence disproves His existence anyway.
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BTMN wrote: We can’t go around changing the definition of words simply to pacify superstitious fears. If we consider god as defined in the Big Three: Christianity, judaism, and Islam (and their respective off-shoots) then evolution does disprove the existence of god. If you believe that man and man alone has a soul, as the Big Three says, and you believe in evolution, then at what point does an animal gain a soul? Does god wait until they reach a certain moral authority? Or did He build us with some kind of soul-switch that kicks in once we begin to feel guilt for our “sins”? If, however, you believe in say Hinduism or buddhism then there’s room for evolution, but really those belief systems see “god” as an archetype, not as a consciousness concerned with judging our actions. Which is really a figurative interpretation, and hence disproves His existence anyway.


All animals have their own souls, but only humans at the moment are self aware, knowing right from wrong.(This is what the garden of Eden is a metaphor for btw, humanities change from the blissful ignorance of animals into good and evil. ) If a chimpanzee evolved so that it knew right from wrong, it would be capable of sin, and so it could go to hell (but only for deliberate and knowing murder, and without regret)
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Chimps DO know whats right from wrong. In the 60’s there was an experiment that tested a chimpanzee’s morals. The chimp was hungry and there was a piece of food in front of it. However, they made it so that the chimp knew if it took the food then another chimp would get an electric shock. The chimp didn’t take the food. This has been done with other animals too.

BTW animals have also been seen to have their own culture and perform rituals. Humans and animals are not as different as you may think.

Also, what makes you think an animal can sin? Animals didn’t come from Adam and Eve, so they wouldn’t be able to inherit or know about sin.
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ramunematt wrote: Chimps DO know whats right from wrong. In the 60’s there was an experiment that tested a chimpanzee’s morals. The chimp was hungry and there was a piece of food in front of it. However, they made it so that the chimp knew if it took the food then another chimp would get an electric shock. The chimp didn’t take the food. This has been done with other animals too.

BTW animals have also been seen to have their own culture and perform rituals. Humans and animals are not as different as you may think.

Also, what makes you think an animal can sin? Animals didn’t come from Adam and Eve, so they wouldn’t be able to inherit or know about sin.


ive said it before and ill say it again

dont assume all christians are creationist.
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Gplex wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Itachi Uchiha wrote: Hahahaha... LOL...

Just like I said to you...

refute it...

It refuted itself and even if the skeleton was real it would prove evolution

I dont know about that....

If giants existed and now they don’t doesn’t that signal natural selection at work?

their would have to be a slow change in them over many generations, mostly because the heart would have to be completly diffrent in order for a giant human being to exist.
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