| 31 May 2008 10:04 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18  Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | That’s cool So Sephiroth can use mind control but that was on Cloud who had no mental resistence at all Goku Piccolo and Tein all have mental block’s and ability’s. ---
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| 31 May 2008 10:16 am |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | fanboy_inc wrote:
didnt cloud overcome roths mind attacks at the end???
If anything it was probably Aries that helped him if he even did. ---
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| 31 May 2008 10:18 am |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | Kyle Knight wrote:
That’s cool So Sephiroth can use mind control but that was on Cloud who had no mental resistence at all Goku Piccolo and Tein all have mental block’s and ability’s.
Can you prove they have mental barriers? Just because one has TK doesn’t mean they have mental barriers. ---
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| 31 May 2008 10:54 am |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18  Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | Well Tein is unable to read Goku’s mind because he has mental Block’s that’s how he beat’s him in the 23’rd Budokia takeing away his edge ---
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| 31 May 2008 10:58 am |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | Well that might be a mental block for mind reading. ---
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| 31 May 2008 11:05 am |
Guest EB Guest | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
That’s cool So Sephiroth can use mind control but that was on Cloud who had no mental resistence at all Goku Piccolo and Tein all have mental block’s and ability’s.
Can you prove they have mental barriers? Just because one has TK doesn’t mean they have mental barriers.
Well Vegeta resisted Babidi’s Mind control. I’d imagine the rest of the high Z fighters could do the same even if they had evil in their hearts | |
| 31 May 2008 11:12 am |
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| 31 May 2008 11:21 am |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | Guest EB wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
Kyle Knight wrote:
That’s cool So Sephiroth can use mind control but that was on Cloud who had no mental resistence at all Goku Piccolo and Tein all have mental block’s and ability’s.
Can you prove they have mental barriers? Just because one has TK doesn’t mean they have mental barriers.
Well Vegeta resisted Babidi’s Mind control. I’d imagine the rest of the high Z fighters could do the same even if they had evil in their hearts
To bad Vegeta is not even in this. It’s only up to Piccolo JR Saga. ---
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| 31 May 2008 01:54 pm |
The Crystal Guest | Sephiroth easily.
In this scenario, Sephiroth succeeded. That means he took control over the entire planet(all the Lifestream) and finally became a God.
Therefore, he can do everything the Lifestream can, and more(because of Jenova). He have the power of all Materias, all magic in the world of FFVII. And giving the fact that everything is connected to the Lifestream(including physical strength, speed, and Limit Breaks) that means he can do everything that every character in the Compilation did.
I see Sephiroth using time magic to freeze time, and then engulfing all of them on Stagnant Lifestream(Nero’s Darkness). | |
| 31 May 2008 06:47 pm |
Buster Sword Guest | He was already above everyone in the Compilation though to begin with xD
He doesn’t have all their abilities, but you know what I mean, also Sephiroth is insanely durable, remember he was durable enough to take the entire planets lifestream, Cloud was in there for a week and it screwed him over. I think though that Sephiroth could use magic anyways, because he has SOME of the lifestream bended to his will.
He could pick them off one by one, by using illusions and pretending to be Goku LOL. | |
| 31 May 2008 07:36 pm |
The Crystal Guest | AC Sephiroth only had control over a portion of the Lifestream, and at the end of the movie, he was using the Negative Lifestream to directly corrupt the rest of the normal one.
But in the scenario presented by this thread, he already took control of the planet, meaning that he already corrupted all the Lifestream of the world(taking control of it), and became “one with the planet”, “a new existence to rule over every soul”. Therefore, what I said is accurate. | |
| 01 Jun 2008 01:57 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18  Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | hmmm their are alot of different opinion’s on Sephiroth’s ability’s, Buster You have the Compalition Ultimania right could you list the Ability’s Sephiroth has genuinely been stated to have?, also how he used these ability’s to his advantage then we can see what were dealing with here.
Next Sephiroth dousent hav every ability in FF, im with Crystal he only absorbed a portion of the lifestream he was useing the negative one to absorb the rest kinda a backup plan on his old one in FFVII he dousent have Nero’s darkness (stagnent mako injected into the womb at birth many project’s failed his dident he dousent have Shelke’s SND ability Azul’s Transmutation, The Chaos Gene,multi form to name a few) the only other person to absorb some of the Lifestream is Weiss who if Sephiroth can move like is in with a seriouse chance of winning.
BTW you mean direct people who were around within the DB Saga right not everyone in the universe like Brolly Freiza Vegeta and so on? ---
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| 01 Jun 2008 09:05 pm |
Regular Rep: 11  Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 545 OFFLINE | Sephiroth. ---
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| 01 Jun 2008 09:24 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | I mean actual DB characters. Noone we find out about in Z. ---
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| 01 Jun 2008 10:00 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18  Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | well i really wouldent no to much on DB i know everything on DBZ but ball kinda bored me for the most part so yea id say Sephiroth would majorly ass rape the Z Fighter’s here with some of his ability’s but that said i have seen some impressive feat’s in Ball that could vanquish the Rothster ---
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| 01 Jun 2008 11:24 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | Kyle Knight wrote:
well i really wouldent no to much on DB i know everything on DBZ but ball kinda bored me for the most part so yea id say Sephiroth would majorly ass rape the Z Fighter’s here with some of his ability’s but that said i have seen some impressive feat’s in Ball that could vanquish the Rothster
Like what for example? Anything in the blink of an eye and as powerful as omnislash? ---
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| 01 Jun 2008 11:29 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18  Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | Well blink of an eye is faster than the eye can follow so yes and as POWERFUL as Omnislash yes
Goku Tein Piccolo and Roshi can at the very least destroy a moon and thensome and are all faster than can be tracked with the human eye ---
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| 01 Jun 2008 11:37 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 63  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,451 OFFLINE | Kyle Knight wrote:
Well blink of an eye is faster than the eye can follow so yes and as POWERFUL as Omnislash yes
Goku Tein Piccolo and Roshi can at the very least destroy a moon and thensome and are all faster than can be tracked with the human eye
Sephiroth is durable enough to absorb the planet’s energy. The planet’s energy far exceeds the moon. ---
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| 01 Jun 2008 11:46 pm |
UBER 1337 Poster Rep: 18  Joined: 25 Oct 2007 Posts: 3,621 OFFLINE | Sephiroth dident absorb the earth’s energy tho and never has, this is were Omgea play’s in it had the most durable body CAPABLE of harnessing the earth’s energybecause it was durable enough to withstand it (Chaos and Waiss were also given near indestructable body’s)
Next point Sephiroth was far more powerful than Cloud yet Cloud was able to destroy Sephiroth with Omnislash so how much energy one can withstand has no real bareing here. ---
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| 03 Jun 2008 06:46 am |
Buster Sword Guest | AC Sephiroth only had control over a portion of the Lifestream, and at the end of the movie, he was using the Negative Lifestream to directly corrupt the rest of the normal one.
But in the scenario presented by this thread, he already took control of the planet, meaning that he already corrupted all the Lifestream of the world(taking control of it), and became “one with the planet”, “a new existence to rule over every soul”. Therefore, what I said is accurate.
I know, I was just referring to regular Sephiroth.
hmmm their are alot of different opinion’s on Sephiroth’s ability’s, Buster You have the Compalition Ultimania right could you list the Ability’s Sephiroth has genuinely been stated to have?, also how he used these ability’s to his advantage then we can see what were dealing with here.
Crystal was referring to if Sephiroth won. Opinions? Whatever Jenova was doing in VII, Sephiroth pretty much does the same, he’s a Jenova hybird. Sephiroth has these abilities because he can manipulate Jenova cells in VII and he’s much more powerful in AC
Next Sephiroth dousent hav every ability in FF, im with Crystal he only absorbed a portion of the lifestream he was useing the negative one to absorb the rest kinda a backup plan on his old one in FFVII he dousent have Nero’s darkness (stagnent mako injected into the womb at birth many project’s failed his dident he dousent have Shelke’s SND ability Azul’s Transmutation, The Chaos Gene,multi form to name a few) the only other person to absorb some of the Lifestream is Weiss who if Sephiroth can move like is in with a seriouse chance of winning.
Again crystal was referring to IF he corrupted ALL of the lifestream. If he corrupted ALL of the lifestream he’d have all that it pretty much has to offer. Sephiroth was moving like Weiss in his base form dude.
BTW you mean direct people who were around within the DB Saga right not everyone in the universe like Brolly Freiza Vegeta and so on?
He could actually beat Broly on a one on one.
Well blink of an eye is faster than the eye can follow so yes and as POWERFUL as Omnislash yes
Goku Tein Piccolo and Roshi can at the very least destroy a moon and thensome and are all faster than can be tracked with the human eye
Blink of an eye is different from follwing with the eye, blinking is a reflex, looking for something isn’t. They don’t posses anything as powerful as even the original Omnislash. And there’s a big difference between the moon and a planets entire energy.
Sephiroth dident absorb the earth’s energy tho and never has, this is were Omgea play’s in it had the most durable body CAPABLE of harnessing the earth’s energybecause it was durable enough to withstand it (Chaos and Waiss were also given near indestructable body’s)
Sorry dude, but did you play VII? Sephiroth spent his time absorbing the lifestream for the five years PRIOR to VII. Absorbing the knowledge and wisdom of the Ancients too, how do you think he knew about Meteor? He didn’t just make a random guess. Dude you need to check what the lifestream actually is. Omega didn’t absorb the planets energy, all it did was act like a drinks can, storing it until it finds somewhere else to put it. Sephiroth was durable enough to endure this in VII, he’s much stronger in AC, and stop bringing up Chaos and Weiss because they are below Sephiroth, don’t argue that because there’s no point in arguing with Kitase.
Next point Sephiroth was far more powerful than Cloud yet Cloud was able to destroy Sephiroth with Omnislash so how much energy one can withstand has no real bareing here.
So what if Cloud was far weaker than Omnislash, is Cloud in Omnislash state the entire battle? No. You just under-estimate Omnislash Kyle, for starters you don’t think he’s the most powerful, even when there is proof and written FACTS dude. Sephiroth was stronger than the planet in VII, for two reasons, one it couldn’t dilute his will, and secondly he was absorbing it for five years, the only difference was in VII was that he was going to take it on a LARGER scale. In AC he is able to corrupt it, did the planet fight back against Sephiroth? No, it needed help from Aeris, AFTER Sephiroth got lolwtfpwned. Omega was just get the lifestream it contains corrupted by Sephiroth and it’s game over. | |
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