| 03 Jun 2008 09:39 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 62  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
if its a tournament, then roth can take a couple of guys down.. but if its an all out brawl,, i dont think roth can mindwipe everyone all at once...
weve seen how fast roth is... but thats is not fast enough...
Why couldn’t he use his spirutal powers against everyone again?
spiritual powers??? i thought its mind attacks.. anyway,,, has he mind wipe a lot of people all at once??? or has he done it one mind at a time??
He has spiritual powers that include that. He has uses his psychic powers through his clones before. He has also used them against the party before the final battle. Note, He is much more powerful now, with the negative lifestream and all. ---
 | | | | 03 Jun 2008 09:43 pm |
Regular Rep: 4  Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 412 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
if its a tournament, then roth can take a couple of guys down.. but if its an all out brawl,, i dont think roth can mindwipe everyone all at once...
weve seen how fast roth is... but thats is not fast enough...
Why couldn’t he use his spirutal powers against everyone again?
spiritual powers??? i thought its mind attacks.. anyway,,, has he mind wipe a lot of people all at once??? or has he done it one mind at a time??
He has spiritual powers that include that. He has uses his psychic powers through his clones before. He has also used them against the party before the final battle. Note, He is much more powerful now, with the negative lifestream and all.
so roth has mind wipe cloud and his friends??? as i recall,, cloud is the only victim...
and dont say he can do much more becuse hes absorbed the lifestream,,, we dont even know what that can do to him... its like saying goku after he absorbed the dragon balls can blast every galaxy in the universe... which of course just an assumption.. ---
 | | | 03 Jun 2008 09:46 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 62  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
if its a tournament, then roth can take a couple of guys down.. but if its an all out brawl,, i dont think roth can mindwipe everyone all at once...
weve seen how fast roth is... but thats is not fast enough...
Why couldn’t he use his spirutal powers against everyone again?
spiritual powers??? i thought its mind attacks.. anyway,,, has he mind wipe a lot of people all at once??? or has he done it one mind at a time??
He has spiritual powers that include that. He has uses his psychic powers through his clones before. He has also used them against the party before the final battle. Note, He is much more powerful now, with the negative lifestream and all.
so roth has mind wipe cloud and his friends??? as i recall,, cloud is the only victim...
and dont say he can do much more becuse hes absorbed the lifestream,,, we dont even know what that can do to him... its like saying goku after he absorbed the dragon balls can blast every galaxy in the universe... which of course just an assumption..
He used his powers on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest he can’t mindwape other people at the same time. He chose Cloud to do this to because of the Nibelhiem thing.
Actually we know it is the lifestream just corrupted. We know what the lifestream can do. It dissolves people. It is the planets energy. We know it creates materia too. ---
 | | | 03 Jun 2008 09:48 pm |
Regular Rep: 4  Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 412 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
if its a tournament, then roth can take a couple of guys down.. but if its an all out brawl,, i dont think roth can mindwipe everyone all at once...
weve seen how fast roth is... but thats is not fast enough...
Why couldn’t he use his spirutal powers against everyone again?
spiritual powers??? i thought its mind attacks.. anyway,,, has he mind wipe a lot of people all at once??? or has he done it one mind at a time??
He has spiritual powers that include that. He has uses his psychic powers through his clones before. He has also used them against the party before the final battle. Note, He is much more powerful now, with the negative lifestream and all.
so roth has mind wipe cloud and his friends??? as i recall,, cloud is the only victim...
and dont say he can do much more becuse hes absorbed the lifestream,,, we dont even know what that can do to him... its like saying goku after he absorbed the dragon balls can blast every galaxy in the universe... which of course just an assumption..
He used his powers on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest he can’t mindwape other people at the same time. He chose Cloud to do this to because of the Nibelhiem thing.
Actually we know it is the lifestream just corrupted. We know what the lifestream can do. It dissolves people. It is the planets energy. We know it creates materia too.
show me roth mind wiping multiple people all at once..
and we know what the dragon balls can do... they grant wishes.. so i guess goku can grant wishes too. or dare i say it??? alter reality.. ---
 | | | 03 Jun 2008 09:51 pm |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 62  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
if its a tournament, then roth can take a couple of guys down.. but if its an all out brawl,, i dont think roth can mindwipe everyone all at once...
weve seen how fast roth is... but thats is not fast enough...
Why couldn’t he use his spirutal powers against everyone again?
spiritual powers??? i thought its mind attacks.. anyway,,, has he mind wipe a lot of people all at once??? or has he done it one mind at a time??
He has spiritual powers that include that. He has uses his psychic powers through his clones before. He has also used them against the party before the final battle. Note, He is much more powerful now, with the negative lifestream and all.
so roth has mind wipe cloud and his friends??? as i recall,, cloud is the only victim...
and dont say he can do much more becuse hes absorbed the lifestream,,, we dont even know what that can do to him... its like saying goku after he absorbed the dragon balls can blast every galaxy in the universe... which of course just an assumption..
He used his powers on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest he can’t mindwape other people at the same time. He chose Cloud to do this to because of the Nibelhiem thing.
Actually we know it is the lifestream just corrupted. We know what the lifestream can do. It dissolves people. It is the planets energy. We know it creates materia too.
show me roth mind wiping multiple people all at once..
and we know what the dragon balls can do... they grant wishes.. so i guess goku can grant wishes too. or dare i say it??? alter reality..
He has used his TK on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest that he can’t use mindwipe on everyone. Also I believe he did have everyone in that illusion, which is pretty close to mind wiping.
The dragonballs only have the power of the creator...So it’s a very low level of reality warping if anything. Either way Sephiroth would just hold back the dragon from being summoned with his will like he held back holy...if they have time to even GET the dragonballs. ---
 | | | 03 Jun 2008 09:56 pm |
Regular Rep: 4  Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 412 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
if its a tournament, then roth can take a couple of guys down.. but if its an all out brawl,, i dont think roth can mindwipe everyone all at once...
weve seen how fast roth is... but thats is not fast enough...
Why couldn’t he use his spirutal powers against everyone again?
spiritual powers??? i thought its mind attacks.. anyway,,, has he mind wipe a lot of people all at once??? or has he done it one mind at a time??
He has spiritual powers that include that. He has uses his psychic powers through his clones before. He has also used them against the party before the final battle. Note, He is much more powerful now, with the negative lifestream and all.
so roth has mind wipe cloud and his friends??? as i recall,, cloud is the only victim...
and dont say he can do much more becuse hes absorbed the lifestream,,, we dont even know what that can do to him... its like saying goku after he absorbed the dragon balls can blast every galaxy in the universe... which of course just an assumption..
He used his powers on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest he can’t mindwape other people at the same time. He chose Cloud to do this to because of the Nibelhiem thing.
Actually we know it is the lifestream just corrupted. We know what the lifestream can do. It dissolves people. It is the planets energy. We know it creates materia too.
show me roth mind wiping multiple people all at once..
and we know what the dragon balls can do... they grant wishes.. so i guess goku can grant wishes too. or dare i say it??? alter reality..
He has used his TK on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest that he can’t use mindwipe on everyone. Also I believe he did have everyone in that illusion, which is pretty close to mind wiping.
The dragonballs only have the power of the creator...So it’s a very low level of reality warping if anything. Either way Sephiroth would just hold back the dragon from being summoned with his will like he held back holy...if they have time to even GET the dragonballs.
just show me roth mindwiping multiple people..
i think the power of the dragon balls is based on how powerful the dragon is.. not the creator... like the dragon said,, he can grant some wishes because they are more powerful than him not his creator.. and we are not talking about dragon balls being gathered,,, i just want you to show me proof what roth can do after he absorbed the lifestream... just like what goku can do after he absorbed the dragon balls... ---
 | | | 04 Jun 2008 06:49 am |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 62  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
if its a tournament, then roth can take a couple of guys down.. but if its an all out brawl,, i dont think roth can mindwipe everyone all at once...
weve seen how fast roth is... but thats is not fast enough...
Why couldn’t he use his spirutal powers against everyone again?
spiritual powers??? i thought its mind attacks.. anyway,,, has he mind wipe a lot of people all at once??? or has he done it one mind at a time??
He has spiritual powers that include that. He has uses his psychic powers through his clones before. He has also used them against the party before the final battle. Note, He is much more powerful now, with the negative lifestream and all.
so roth has mind wipe cloud and his friends??? as i recall,, cloud is the only victim...
and dont say he can do much more becuse hes absorbed the lifestream,,, we dont even know what that can do to him... its like saying goku after he absorbed the dragon balls can blast every galaxy in the universe... which of course just an assumption..
He used his powers on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest he can’t mindwape other people at the same time. He chose Cloud to do this to because of the Nibelhiem thing.
Actually we know it is the lifestream just corrupted. We know what the lifestream can do. It dissolves people. It is the planets energy. We know it creates materia too.
show me roth mind wiping multiple people all at once..
and we know what the dragon balls can do... they grant wishes.. so i guess goku can grant wishes too. or dare i say it??? alter reality..
He has used his TK on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest that he can’t use mindwipe on everyone. Also I believe he did have everyone in that illusion, which is pretty close to mind wiping.
The dragonballs only have the power of the creator...So it’s a very low level of reality warping if anything. Either way Sephiroth would just hold back the dragon from being summoned with his will like he held back holy...if they have time to even GET the dragonballs.
just show me roth mindwiping multiple people..
i think the power of the dragon balls is based on how powerful the dragon is.. not the creator... like the dragon said,, he can grant some wishes because they are more powerful than him not his creator.. and we are not talking about dragon balls being gathered,,, i just want you to show me proof what roth can do after he absorbed the lifestream... just like what goku can do after he absorbed the dragon balls...
I got the creator saying Sephiroth has control over his own lifestream. It seems you constantly deny facts said by the creator.
Actually your right about the dragonballs it is based how strong the dragon is, which is based on how strong the creator is. ---
 | | | 04 Jun 2008 09:33 am |
Regular Rep: 4  Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 412 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
if its a tournament, then roth can take a couple of guys down.. but if its an all out brawl,, i dont think roth can mindwipe everyone all at once...
weve seen how fast roth is... but thats is not fast enough...
Why couldn’t he use his spirutal powers against everyone again?
spiritual powers??? i thought its mind attacks.. anyway,,, has he mind wipe a lot of people all at once??? or has he done it one mind at a time??
He has spiritual powers that include that. He has uses his psychic powers through his clones before. He has also used them against the party before the final battle. Note, He is much more powerful now, with the negative lifestream and all.
so roth has mind wipe cloud and his friends??? as i recall,, cloud is the only victim...
and dont say he can do much more becuse hes absorbed the lifestream,,, we dont even know what that can do to him... its like saying goku after he absorbed the dragon balls can blast every galaxy in the universe... which of course just an assumption..
He used his powers on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest he can’t mindwape other people at the same time. He chose Cloud to do this to because of the Nibelhiem thing.
Actually we know it is the lifestream just corrupted. We know what the lifestream can do. It dissolves people. It is the planets energy. We know it creates materia too.
show me roth mind wiping multiple people all at once..
and we know what the dragon balls can do... they grant wishes.. so i guess goku can grant wishes too. or dare i say it??? alter reality..
He has used his TK on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest that he can’t use mindwipe on everyone. Also I believe he did have everyone in that illusion, which is pretty close to mind wiping.
The dragonballs only have the power of the creator...So it’s a very low level of reality warping if anything. Either way Sephiroth would just hold back the dragon from being summoned with his will like he held back holy...if they have time to even GET the dragonballs.
just show me roth mindwiping multiple people..
i think the power of the dragon balls is based on how powerful the dragon is.. not the creator... like the dragon said,, he can grant some wishes because they are more powerful than him not his creator.. and we are not talking about dragon balls being gathered,,, i just want you to show me proof what roth can do after he absorbed the lifestream... just like what goku can do after he absorbed the dragon balls...
I got the creator saying Sephiroth has control over his own lifestream. It seems you constantly deny facts said by the creator.
Actually your right about the dragonballs it is based how strong the dragon is, which is based on how strong the creator is.
i dont deny that roth has control over his lifestream... what im asking is,, proof that roth can mindwipe multiple people at a time...
hhhhmmmmmm and what happens if the dragon balls is fused with goku??? well,, we dont really know,,, but there is the fact that when something or someone is absorbed or fused with another in the dbz universe,, they become stronger... and how does this prove roths abilities after he absorbed the lifestream of the planet??? ---
 | | | 04 Jun 2008 10:21 am |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 62  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
if its a tournament, then roth can take a couple of guys down.. but if its an all out brawl,, i dont think roth can mindwipe everyone all at once...
weve seen how fast roth is... but thats is not fast enough...
Why couldn’t he use his spirutal powers against everyone again?
spiritual powers??? i thought its mind attacks.. anyway,,, has he mind wipe a lot of people all at once??? or has he done it one mind at a time??
He has spiritual powers that include that. He has uses his psychic powers through his clones before. He has also used them against the party before the final battle. Note, He is much more powerful now, with the negative lifestream and all.
so roth has mind wipe cloud and his friends??? as i recall,, cloud is the only victim...
and dont say he can do much more becuse hes absorbed the lifestream,,, we dont even know what that can do to him... its like saying goku after he absorbed the dragon balls can blast every galaxy in the universe... which of course just an assumption..
He used his powers on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest he can’t mindwape other people at the same time. He chose Cloud to do this to because of the Nibelhiem thing.
Actually we know it is the lifestream just corrupted. We know what the lifestream can do. It dissolves people. It is the planets energy. We know it creates materia too.
show me roth mind wiping multiple people all at once..
and we know what the dragon balls can do... they grant wishes.. so i guess goku can grant wishes too. or dare i say it??? alter reality..
He has used his TK on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest that he can’t use mindwipe on everyone. Also I believe he did have everyone in that illusion, which is pretty close to mind wiping.
The dragonballs only have the power of the creator...So it’s a very low level of reality warping if anything. Either way Sephiroth would just hold back the dragon from being summoned with his will like he held back holy...if they have time to even GET the dragonballs.
just show me roth mindwiping multiple people..
i think the power of the dragon balls is based on how powerful the dragon is.. not the creator... like the dragon said,, he can grant some wishes because they are more powerful than him not his creator.. and we are not talking about dragon balls being gathered,,, i just want you to show me proof what roth can do after he absorbed the lifestream... just like what goku can do after he absorbed the dragon balls...
I got the creator saying Sephiroth has control over his own lifestream. It seems you constantly deny facts said by the creator.
Actually your right about the dragonballs it is based how strong the dragon is, which is based on how strong the creator is.
i dont deny that roth has control over his lifestream... what im asking is,, proof that roth can mindwipe multiple people at a time...
hhhhmmmmmm and what happens if the dragon balls is fused with goku??? well,, we dont really know,,, but there is the fact that when something or someone is absorbed or fused with another in the dbz universe,, they become stronger... and how does this prove roths abilities after he absorbed the lifestream of the planet???
I don’t have to. We have seen him use his illusions and other spirtual powers through his clones and on the party.
We know he has complete control over it. We know what the lifestream does. The lifestream destroyed Meteor, Sephiroth could absorb it. If Meteor was going to pulverize the planet and the lifestream dissoved it but can be absorbed by Sephiroth....
As for the dragonaballs we know they are as strong as Piccolo and such. And in DB they don’t get those kinds of things done to them. This is end DB vs Sephiroth(With all his powers) This is not, What if end DB ---
 | | | 04 Jun 2008 10:26 am |
Regular Rep: 4  Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 412 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
if its a tournament, then roth can take a couple of guys down.. but if its an all out brawl,, i dont think roth can mindwipe everyone all at once...
weve seen how fast roth is... but thats is not fast enough...
Why couldn’t he use his spirutal powers against everyone again?
spiritual powers??? i thought its mind attacks.. anyway,,, has he mind wipe a lot of people all at once??? or has he done it one mind at a time??
He has spiritual powers that include that. He has uses his psychic powers through his clones before. He has also used them against the party before the final battle. Note, He is much more powerful now, with the negative lifestream and all.
so roth has mind wipe cloud and his friends??? as i recall,, cloud is the only victim...
and dont say he can do much more becuse hes absorbed the lifestream,,, we dont even know what that can do to him... its like saying goku after he absorbed the dragon balls can blast every galaxy in the universe... which of course just an assumption..
He used his powers on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest he can’t mindwape other people at the same time. He chose Cloud to do this to because of the Nibelhiem thing.
Actually we know it is the lifestream just corrupted. We know what the lifestream can do. It dissolves people. It is the planets energy. We know it creates materia too.
show me roth mind wiping multiple people all at once..
and we know what the dragon balls can do... they grant wishes.. so i guess goku can grant wishes too. or dare i say it??? alter reality..
He has used his TK on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest that he can’t use mindwipe on everyone. Also I believe he did have everyone in that illusion, which is pretty close to mind wiping.
The dragonballs only have the power of the creator...So it’s a very low level of reality warping if anything. Either way Sephiroth would just hold back the dragon from being summoned with his will like he held back holy...if they have time to even GET the dragonballs.
just show me roth mindwiping multiple people..
i think the power of the dragon balls is based on how powerful the dragon is.. not the creator... like the dragon said,, he can grant some wishes because they are more powerful than him not his creator.. and we are not talking about dragon balls being gathered,,, i just want you to show me proof what roth can do after he absorbed the lifestream... just like what goku can do after he absorbed the dragon balls...
I got the creator saying Sephiroth has control over his own lifestream. It seems you constantly deny facts said by the creator.
Actually your right about the dragonballs it is based how strong the dragon is, which is based on how strong the creator is.
i dont deny that roth has control over his lifestream... what im asking is,, proof that roth can mindwipe multiple people at a time...
hhhhmmmmmm and what happens if the dragon balls is fused with goku??? well,, we dont really know,,, but there is the fact that when something or someone is absorbed or fused with another in the dbz universe,, they become stronger... and how does this prove roths abilities after he absorbed the lifestream of the planet???
I don’t have to. We have seen him use his illusions and other spirtual powers through his clones and on the party.
We know he has complete control over it. We know what the lifestream does. The lifestream destroyed Meteor, Sephiroth could absorb it. If Meteor was going to pulverize the planet and the lifestream dissoved it but can be absorbed by Sephiroth....
As for the dragonaballs we know they are as strong as Piccolo and such. And in DB they don’t get those kinds of things done to them. This is end DB vs Sephiroth(With all his powers) This is not, What if end DB
you dont have to??? you should say you cant...
yeah,,, lets see the life stream destroying a meteor...
well,,, the point is,,, we dont know how strong goku is when he absorbed the dragon ballz,, the same thing that we dont know how strong roth will be after he absorbed the lifestream,,, so all we got are speculations.. ---
 | | | 04 Jun 2008 10:33 am |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 62  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
if its a tournament, then roth can take a couple of guys down.. but if its an all out brawl,, i dont think roth can mindwipe everyone all at once...
weve seen how fast roth is... but thats is not fast enough...
Why couldn’t he use his spirutal powers against everyone again?
spiritual powers??? i thought its mind attacks.. anyway,,, has he mind wipe a lot of people all at once??? or has he done it one mind at a time??
He has spiritual powers that include that. He has uses his psychic powers through his clones before. He has also used them against the party before the final battle. Note, He is much more powerful now, with the negative lifestream and all.
so roth has mind wipe cloud and his friends??? as i recall,, cloud is the only victim...
and dont say he can do much more becuse hes absorbed the lifestream,,, we dont even know what that can do to him... its like saying goku after he absorbed the dragon balls can blast every galaxy in the universe... which of course just an assumption..
He used his powers on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest he can’t mindwape other people at the same time. He chose Cloud to do this to because of the Nibelhiem thing.
Actually we know it is the lifestream just corrupted. We know what the lifestream can do. It dissolves people. It is the planets energy. We know it creates materia too.
show me roth mind wiping multiple people all at once..
and we know what the dragon balls can do... they grant wishes.. so i guess goku can grant wishes too. or dare i say it??? alter reality..
He has used his TK on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest that he can’t use mindwipe on everyone. Also I believe he did have everyone in that illusion, which is pretty close to mind wiping.
The dragonballs only have the power of the creator...So it’s a very low level of reality warping if anything. Either way Sephiroth would just hold back the dragon from being summoned with his will like he held back holy...if they have time to even GET the dragonballs.
just show me roth mindwiping multiple people..
i think the power of the dragon balls is based on how powerful the dragon is.. not the creator... like the dragon said,, he can grant some wishes because they are more powerful than him not his creator.. and we are not talking about dragon balls being gathered,,, i just want you to show me proof what roth can do after he absorbed the lifestream... just like what goku can do after he absorbed the dragon balls...
I got the creator saying Sephiroth has control over his own lifestream. It seems you constantly deny facts said by the creator.
Actually your right about the dragonballs it is based how strong the dragon is, which is based on how strong the creator is.
i dont deny that roth has control over his lifestream... what im asking is,, proof that roth can mindwipe multiple people at a time...
hhhhmmmmmm and what happens if the dragon balls is fused with goku??? well,, we dont really know,,, but there is the fact that when something or someone is absorbed or fused with another in the dbz universe,, they become stronger... and how does this prove roths abilities after he absorbed the lifestream of the planet???
I don’t have to. We have seen him use his illusions and other spirtual powers through his clones and on the party.
We know he has complete control over it. We know what the lifestream does. The lifestream destroyed Meteor, Sephiroth could absorb it. If Meteor was going to pulverize the planet and the lifestream dissoved it but can be absorbed by Sephiroth....
As for the dragonaballs we know they are as strong as Piccolo and such. And in DB they don’t get those kinds of things done to them. This is end DB vs Sephiroth(With all his powers) This is not, What if end DB
you dont have to??? you should say you cant...
yeah,,, lets see the life stream destroying a meteor...
well,,, the point is,,, we dont know how strong goku is when he absorbed the dragon ballz,, the same thing that we dont know how strong roth will be after he absorbed the lifestream,,, so all we got are speculations..
Your right to a degree. He has never done it but he has used his other spiritual powers on the party and clones. There is nothing to suggest he can’t use a mindwipe. Either way, He could just as easily just mindwipe Goku(The strongest character) Either that or he gived them Geostigma and controls them all (Proof is in AC when the children all gather around Jenova’s head) They are drawn to Jenova and basically have to do reunion) If Sephiroth controls Jenova...well...Yeah. He could also give them the Jenova virus that makes them all go insane and turn into monsters.
Are you serious? What do you think happened to Meteor?
Anyway there is a screenshot.
Actually we do know how powerful Sephiroth would become. The lifestream is connected with every living person on the planet. If he absorbs all of it he will “Rule over every soul” becoming a God. We also know that he would have all the spells at his disposal. The lifestream creates all materia. Materia=magic. If Sephiroth controls the lifestream he basically has all the magic at his disposal ---
 | | | 04 Jun 2008 10:39 am |
Regular Rep: 4  Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 412 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
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ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
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fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
if its a tournament, then roth can take a couple of guys down.. but if its an all out brawl,, i dont think roth can mindwipe everyone all at once...
weve seen how fast roth is... but thats is not fast enough...
Why couldn’t he use his spirutal powers against everyone again?
spiritual powers??? i thought its mind attacks.. anyway,,, has he mind wipe a lot of people all at once??? or has he done it one mind at a time??
He has spiritual powers that include that. He has uses his psychic powers through his clones before. He has also used them against the party before the final battle. Note, He is much more powerful now, with the negative lifestream and all.
so roth has mind wipe cloud and his friends??? as i recall,, cloud is the only victim...
and dont say he can do much more becuse hes absorbed the lifestream,,, we dont even know what that can do to him... its like saying goku after he absorbed the dragon balls can blast every galaxy in the universe... which of course just an assumption..
He used his powers on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest he can’t mindwape other people at the same time. He chose Cloud to do this to because of the Nibelhiem thing.
Actually we know it is the lifestream just corrupted. We know what the lifestream can do. It dissolves people. It is the planets energy. We know it creates materia too.
show me roth mind wiping multiple people all at once..
and we know what the dragon balls can do... they grant wishes.. so i guess goku can grant wishes too. or dare i say it??? alter reality..
He has used his TK on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest that he can’t use mindwipe on everyone. Also I believe he did have everyone in that illusion, which is pretty close to mind wiping.
The dragonballs only have the power of the creator...So it’s a very low level of reality warping if anything. Either way Sephiroth would just hold back the dragon from being summoned with his will like he held back holy...if they have time to even GET the dragonballs.
just show me roth mindwiping multiple people..
i think the power of the dragon balls is based on how powerful the dragon is.. not the creator... like the dragon said,, he can grant some wishes because they are more powerful than him not his creator.. and we are not talking about dragon balls being gathered,,, i just want you to show me proof what roth can do after he absorbed the lifestream... just like what goku can do after he absorbed the dragon balls...
I got the creator saying Sephiroth has control over his own lifestream. It seems you constantly deny facts said by the creator.
Actually your right about the dragonballs it is based how strong the dragon is, which is based on how strong the creator is.
i dont deny that roth has control over his lifestream... what im asking is,, proof that roth can mindwipe multiple people at a time...
hhhhmmmmmm and what happens if the dragon balls is fused with goku??? well,, we dont really know,,, but there is the fact that when something or someone is absorbed or fused with another in the dbz universe,, they become stronger... and how does this prove roths abilities after he absorbed the lifestream of the planet???
I don’t have to. We have seen him use his illusions and other spirtual powers through his clones and on the party.
We know he has complete control over it. We know what the lifestream does. The lifestream destroyed Meteor, Sephiroth could absorb it. If Meteor was going to pulverize the planet and the lifestream dissoved it but can be absorbed by Sephiroth....
As for the dragonaballs we know they are as strong as Piccolo and such. And in DB they don’t get those kinds of things done to them. This is end DB vs Sephiroth(With all his powers) This is not, What if end DB
you dont have to??? you should say you cant...
yeah,,, lets see the life stream destroying a meteor...
well,,, the point is,,, we dont know how strong goku is when he absorbed the dragon ballz,, the same thing that we dont know how strong roth will be after he absorbed the lifestream,,, so all we got are speculations..
Your right to a degree. He has never done it but he has used his other spiritual powers on the party and clones. There is nothing to suggest he can’t use a mindwipe. Either way, He could just as easily just mindwipe Goku(The strongest character) Either that or he gived them Geostigma and controls them all (Proof is in AC when the children all gather around Jenova’s head) They are drawn to Jenova and basically have to do reunion) If Sephiroth controls Jenova...well...Yeah. He could also give them the Jenova virus that makes them all go insane and turn into monsters.
Are you serious? What do you think happened to Meteor?
Anyway there is a screenshot.
Actually we do know how powerful Sephiroth would become. The lifestream is connected with every living person on the planet. If he absorbs all of it he will “Rule over every soul” becoming a God. We also know that he would have all the spells at his disposal. The lifestream creates all materia. Materia=magic. If Sephiroth controls the lifestream he basically has all the magic at his disposal
yeah,, he can mind wipe goku,, then what??? by the time goku is down picollo and the others will attack... show me proof that roth can give anyone that sickness,,,
wow,,, he really did it... kinda reminds me of roshi destrying the moon,,, by the way,, roshi is weaker than goku...
all the magics??? oh darn.... and what can this magics do to goku an the others???? freeze them??? burn them???? these are people who can destroy the moon... ---
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Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 62  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
if its a tournament, then roth can take a couple of guys down.. but if its an all out brawl,, i dont think roth can mindwipe everyone all at once...
weve seen how fast roth is... but thats is not fast enough...
Why couldn’t he use his spirutal powers against everyone again?
spiritual powers??? i thought its mind attacks.. anyway,,, has he mind wipe a lot of people all at once??? or has he done it one mind at a time??
He has spiritual powers that include that. He has uses his psychic powers through his clones before. He has also used them against the party before the final battle. Note, He is much more powerful now, with the negative lifestream and all.
so roth has mind wipe cloud and his friends??? as i recall,, cloud is the only victim...
and dont say he can do much more becuse hes absorbed the lifestream,,, we dont even know what that can do to him... its like saying goku after he absorbed the dragon balls can blast every galaxy in the universe... which of course just an assumption..
He used his powers on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest he can’t mindwape other people at the same time. He chose Cloud to do this to because of the Nibelhiem thing.
Actually we know it is the lifestream just corrupted. We know what the lifestream can do. It dissolves people. It is the planets energy. We know it creates materia too.
show me roth mind wiping multiple people all at once..
and we know what the dragon balls can do... they grant wishes.. so i guess goku can grant wishes too. or dare i say it??? alter reality..
He has used his TK on multiple people. There is nothing to suggest that he can’t use mindwipe on everyone. Also I believe he did have everyone in that illusion, which is pretty close to mind wiping.
The dragonballs only have the power of the creator...So it’s a very low level of reality warping if anything. Either way Sephiroth would just hold back the dragon from being summoned with his will like he held back holy...if they have time to even GET the dragonballs.
just show me roth mindwiping multiple people..
i think the power of the dragon balls is based on how powerful the dragon is.. not the creator... like the dragon said,, he can grant some wishes because they are more powerful than him not his creator.. and we are not talking about dragon balls being gathered,,, i just want you to show me proof what roth can do after he absorbed the lifestream... just like what goku can do after he absorbed the dragon balls...
I got the creator saying Sephiroth has control over his own lifestream. It seems you constantly deny facts said by the creator.
Actually your right about the dragonballs it is based how strong the dragon is, which is based on how strong the creator is.
i dont deny that roth has control over his lifestream... what im asking is,, proof that roth can mindwipe multiple people at a time...
hhhhmmmmmm and what happens if the dragon balls is fused with goku??? well,, we dont really know,,, but there is the fact that when something or someone is absorbed or fused with another in the dbz universe,, they become stronger... and how does this prove roths abilities after he absorbed the lifestream of the planet???
I don’t have to. We have seen him use his illusions and other spirtual powers through his clones and on the party.
We know he has complete control over it. We know what the lifestream does. The lifestream destroyed Meteor, Sephiroth could absorb it. If Meteor was going to pulverize the planet and the lifestream dissoved it but can be absorbed by Sephiroth....
As for the dragonaballs we know they are as strong as Piccolo and such. And in DB they don’t get those kinds of things done to them. This is end DB vs Sephiroth(With all his powers) This is not, What if end DB
you dont have to??? you should say you cant...
yeah,,, lets see the life stream destroying a meteor...
well,,, the point is,,, we dont know how strong goku is when he absorbed the dragon ballz,, the same thing that we dont know how strong roth will be after he absorbed the lifestream,,, so all we got are speculations..
Your right to a degree. He has never done it but he has used his other spiritual powers on the party and clones. There is nothing to suggest he can’t use a mindwipe. Either way, He could just as easily just mindwipe Goku(The strongest character) Either that or he gived them Geostigma and controls them all (Proof is in AC when the children all gather around Jenova’s head) They are drawn to Jenova and basically have to do reunion) If Sephiroth controls Jenova...well...Yeah. He could also give them the Jenova virus that makes them all go insane and turn into monsters.
Are you serious? What do you think happened to Meteor?
Anyway there is a screenshot.
Actually we do know how powerful Sephiroth would become. The lifestream is connected with every living person on the planet. If he absorbs all of it he will “Rule over every soul” becoming a God. We also know that he would have all the spells at his disposal. The lifestream creates all materia. Materia=magic. If Sephiroth controls the lifestream he basically has all the magic at his disposal
yeah,, he can mind wipe goku,, then what??? by the time goku is down picollo and the others will attack... show me proof that roth can give anyone that sickness,,,
wow,,, he really did it... kinda reminds me of roshi destrying the moon,,, by the way,, roshi is weaker than goku...
all the magics??? oh darn.... and what can this magics do to goku an the others???? freeze them??? burn them???? these are people who can destroy the moon...
Yeah they will totally be attacking when they are trapped in his TK
That is also proof he can use his spirtual powers on more than one person. Did I mention he was MUCH stronger now? So he will probably mindwipe everyone. Or rip apart them with TK(I’ll get you a vid of the party themselves stating that they felt like they were gettin torn apart)
Roshi destroying the moon the equivilant? lol. Taking the energy of something requires much more durability than to take the explosion. If Sephiroth could take the planets energy he can take a planet buster. Noone in DB is a planet buster. Even so, It wouldn’t kill Sephiroth and it would kill them.
Well considering DBZ Goku is afraid of lava and is burned by fire....And considering Sephiroth has Fire spells and lightning spells...yeah. Lightning is 10000 times hotter than the sun’s surface...
Prove he could give the virus to everyone? Are you serious? Your very desperate indeed. Jenova did that to the ancients and they became extinct. It had to have been a very fast epidemic to make an entire race of people die out. ---
 Last edited 04 Jun 2008 10:49 am by ChibiDiscoDhaos | | | 04 Jun 2008 11:02 am |
Regular Rep: 4  Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 412 OFFLINE | he can use his spiritual powers on more than one person... not mind attacks... if roth cant even rip tifa in half,, how would he rip the likes of tien???
actually,, im reffering to the meteor being destroyed... tell me,,, is the life stream harmful??? if its not,,, then i dont see whats so impressive with him taking it all.. after all,,, materia is made from the life stream,,, i dont recall materia being harmfull,, unless its used as an attack magic..
those my friend are what you call fillers... another filler thats very interesting will be,, goku bathing in a tub full of lava.. yepp its there.. only its non canon..
they became extinct??? lol,,, even the children in AC can withstand that disease... ---
 | | | 04 Jun 2008 11:09 am |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 62  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | fanboy_inc wrote:
he can use his spiritual powers on more than one person... not mind attacks... if roth cant even rip tifa in half,, how would he rip the likes of tien???
He wasn’t trying to rip anyone in half. His powers were so strong thats what it felt like. Also TK(As seen in pic) is a spiritual power. Mindwipe is a spiritual power.
actually,, im reffering to the meteor being destroyed... tell me,,, is the life stream harmful??? if its not,,, then i dont see whats so impressive with him taking it all.. after all,,, materia is made from the life stream,,, i dont recall materia being harmfull,, unless its used as an attack magic..
It deluded Cloud and also it dosolves things if it touches things. It DISSOLVED METEOR. Something that was going to pulverize the planet.
those my friend are what you call fillers... another filler thats very interesting will be,, goku bathing in a tub full of lava.. yepp its there.. only its non canon..
Goku bathing in lava when he was DEAD and was afraid of it later on Namek. Either way, Kid Goku is going to get burned by it.
they became extinct??? lol,,, even the children in AC can withstand that disease...
Different disease. Geostigma doesn’t make you go insane and turn you into monsters. ---
 | | | 04 Jun 2008 11:21 am |
Regular Rep: 4  Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 412 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
he can use his spiritual powers on more than one person... not mind attacks... if roth cant even rip tifa in half,, how would he rip the likes of tien???
He wasn’t trying to rip anyone in half. His powers were so strong thats what it felt like. Also TK(As seen in pic) is a spiritual power. Mindwipe is a spiritual power.
actually,, im reffering to the meteor being destroyed... tell me,,, is the life stream harmful??? if its not,,, then i dont see whats so impressive with him taking it all.. after all,,, materia is made from the life stream,,, i dont recall materia being harmfull,, unless its used as an attack magic..
It deluded Cloud and also it dosolves things if it touches things. It DISSOLVED METEOR. Something that was going to pulverize the planet.
those my friend are what you call fillers... another filler thats very interesting will be,, goku bathing in a tub full of lava.. yepp its there.. only its non canon..
Goku bathing in lava when he was DEAD and was afraid of it later on Namek. Either way, Kid Goku is going to get burned by it.
they became extinct??? lol,,, even the children in AC can withstand that disease...
Different disease. Geostigma doesn’t make you go insane and turn you into monsters.
mind wipe is not a spiritual power... its mindwipe... hes that strong huh??? so your saying roth dont have the slightest whim to rip them apart???
so the lifestream just got up and destroyed the meteor??
being dead doesnt mean goku was invincible... the point is,, fillers are fillers.. and who said were using kid goku again???
wow,,, a monster goku.. oozaru... i dont think thats a good idea.. ---
 | | | 04 Jun 2008 11:29 am |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 62  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
he can use his spiritual powers on more than one person... not mind attacks... if roth cant even rip tifa in half,, how would he rip the likes of tien???
He wasn’t trying to rip anyone in half. His powers were so strong thats what it felt like. Also TK(As seen in pic) is a spiritual power. Mindwipe is a spiritual power.
actually,, im reffering to the meteor being destroyed... tell me,,, is the life stream harmful??? if its not,,, then i dont see whats so impressive with him taking it all.. after all,,, materia is made from the life stream,,, i dont recall materia being harmfull,, unless its used as an attack magic..
It deluded Cloud and also it dosolves things if it touches things. It DISSOLVED METEOR. Something that was going to pulverize the planet.
those my friend are what you call fillers... another filler thats very interesting will be,, goku bathing in a tub full of lava.. yepp its there.. only its non canon..
Goku bathing in lava when he was DEAD and was afraid of it later on Namek. Either way, Kid Goku is going to get burned by it.
they became extinct??? lol,,, even the children in AC can withstand that disease...
Different disease. Geostigma doesn’t make you go insane and turn you into monsters.
mind wipe is not a spiritual power... its mindwipe... hes that strong huh??? so your saying roth dont have the slightest whim to rip them apart???
so the lifestream just got up and destroyed the meteor??
being dead doesnt mean goku was invincible... the point is,, fillers are fillers.. and who said were using kid goku again???
wow,,, a monster goku.. oozaru... i dont think thats a good idea..
No. He is a very arrogent guy. Plus if he did it would be an end to the game now wouldn’t it?
Yes...The lifestream actually got up and dissolved meteor...And I’m being serious...
I’m pretty sure the Namek thing did happen though...
Who says he is turning Ozzaru? ---
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Regular Rep: 4  Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 412 OFFLINE | ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
ChibiDiscoDhaos wrote:
fanboy_inc wrote:
he can use his spiritual powers on more than one person... not mind attacks... if roth cant even rip tifa in half,, how would he rip the likes of tien???
He wasn’t trying to rip anyone in half. His powers were so strong thats what it felt like. Also TK(As seen in pic) is a spiritual power. Mindwipe is a spiritual power.
actually,, im reffering to the meteor being destroyed... tell me,,, is the life stream harmful??? if its not,,, then i dont see whats so impressive with him taking it all.. after all,,, materia is made from the life stream,,, i dont recall materia being harmfull,, unless its used as an attack magic..
It deluded Cloud and also it dosolves things if it touches things. It DISSOLVED METEOR. Something that was going to pulverize the planet.
those my friend are what you call fillers... another filler thats very interesting will be,, goku bathing in a tub full of lava.. yepp its there.. only its non canon..
Goku bathing in lava when he was DEAD and was afraid of it later on Namek. Either way, Kid Goku is going to get burned by it.
they became extinct??? lol,,, even the children in AC can withstand that disease...
Different disease. Geostigma doesn’t make you go insane and turn you into monsters.
mind wipe is not a spiritual power... its mindwipe... hes that strong huh??? so your saying roth dont have the slightest whim to rip them apart???
so the lifestream just got up and destroyed the meteor??
being dead doesnt mean goku was invincible... the point is,, fillers are fillers.. and who said were using kid goku again???
wow,,, a monster goku.. oozaru... i dont think thats a good idea..
No. He is a very arrogent guy. Plus if he did it would be an end to the game now wouldn’t it?
Yes...The lifestream actually got up and dissolved meteor...And I’m being serious...
I’m pretty sure the Namek thing did happen though...
Who says he is turning Ozzaru?
prove that roth is not ripping them apart.. that the only thing thats doing it is roths immense power..
really??? i think i missed that part.. show me..
nope youre wrong..its non canon.
well you did say they will turn into monsters once theyre caught with the disease.. ---
 | | | 04 Jun 2008 11:40 am |
Thanatos, God of Death Rep: 62  Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 14,446 OFFLINE | ---
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Regular Rep: 4  Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 412 OFFLINE | about the 1st vid,,, roth is attacking them... sooo,,,, i thought roth is just standing there doing nothing and the mere presence of roth makes them ache...
the second vid,, yeah its the lifestream all right... aeris used it huh???
well, if goku will become a monster,, what do you think he’ll be??? ---
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