trying to match god with science doesnt go to well because god is the creator if science so y would scientist be able to tell me other wise some dont believe that but thats ok because thats ur believe mines no better than urs it just religion but i am wondering what do u believe created the universe
my bad if ur upset but i just put in my belief and if thats i problem with u im sorry but im not going to stop trying to spread to others who have questions wat i believe because u want me to
Astro Boy X wrote:
my bad if ur upset but i just put in my belief and if thats i problem with u im sorry but im not going to stop trying to spread to others who have questions wat i believe because u want me to
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Astro Boy X wrote:
my bad if ur upset but i just put in my belief and if thats i problem with u im sorry but im not going to stop trying to spread to others who have questions wat i believe because u want me to
Astro boy i want you...[color=white]...DEAD[/color
strong wrote:
U know Gplex, that makes no sense, an omnipotent being could take up exactly as much space as it wanted, also, God is meant to be omnipresent, so technically he does take up infinate space. its a thought though.
No, if you have infinite power, you need infinite space to hold that power. You can not be no where and everywhere at the same time.
God is either mad up by energy or matter, their is nothing else, and both follow the laws of physics.
--- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena.
Gplex wrote:
So basicly a infinitely powerful being, think about it, a infinite being would need to take up infinite space, in this infinite universe. Im occupying this part of space, so their can not be a infinite being.
What if he does take up an infinite space, but has a really low density so that we can exist, like putting a brick in a container of air?
no you would need all space and energy in the entire universe and every alternate universe to be infinitly powerful.
--- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena.
strong wrote:
In all of science and philosophy, is there any damning evidence that there is no omnipotent, omnpresent and omniscient God. This is not biblical, but philosophical
There are a few. I will just name a couple.
-Considering throughout all of time, Gods once believed were disproved, does that kind of say something about the gods believed today?
-All religions die out eventually. Does this mean that there really is no real truth?
-Religions inaccurate statements of history in the bible
-Geographical problems in the bible (no proof that there was a great flood, etc.)
-Evolution and other scientific theories contradict what is said in religion, making some religions either fight against facts or change what their religion says.
-If God sends you to hell, does that mean he hates you and not love you?
Keep in mind these are points, not things to be offended by. These are just some things to think about.
Gplex wrote:
So basicly a infinitely powerful being, think about it, a infinite being would need to take up infinite space, in this infinite universe. Im occupying this part of space, so their can not be a infinite being.
What if he does take up an infinite space, but has a really low density so that we can exist, like putting a brick in a container of air?
no you would need all space and energy in the entire universe and every alternate universe to be infinitly powerful.
i guess you’re right, but then again, he’s God. he doesn’t have to obey the laws of physics.
strong wrote:
In all of science and philosophy, is there any damning evidence that there is no omnipotent, omnpresent and omniscient God. This is not biblical, but philosophical
Just start making claims about your god, and Ill start refuting them. Especially if they from the biblical account.
All right omnipotent is impossible, because can a omnipotent being create a stone so heavy that not even that being could lift it? A omnipotent being would also need to take up infinite space to hold his infinite energy.
Omnipresent, is impossible, because I hold this space at the moment, which means that a omnipresent being is not in my place.
Omniscient, is impossible because god has either got to be energy or matter, pick either one, because both have to abided by the laws of physics. Which mean that god can not move faster then light.
--- Theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it can in everyday speech. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena.
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